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    This area is not for queries but for ongoing blogs. if you want to ask for help, please go to the appropriate sub-forum in the main part of the GWF. You have been asked to make your first post in a specified location. Once you have done that, your query can be raised in the various sections of the forum. If you previously posted a request for help or information in this area, it is likely to be deleted at some point in the next few weeks or months. So if you have a reply, please make a note of it, If not, can you re-post it in the appropriate part of the forum, which is likely to get you a quick response. Keith Roberts for the GWF team
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Categories of the UNKNOWN Cases

These are the categories that I have on my computer in bookmarks. I will update this page on a regular basis, particularly during the early phase of the "sorting into categories".   These are ONLY for the British cases here on the GWF. They do not include any of the cases on the CEFSG (here).   I was initially posting this information for the benefit of GWF PALS that wanted to investigate the case further and possibly take it to the reporting stage. I was not familiar enough with the Regiments and did not have access to the UK War Diaries, so I could not finish the case. With the assistance of the Long, Long Trail and now with Ance$try Worldwide, I am able to proceed. There are a number of these cases still listed in the final category below ("Other Cases Posted") and I am now in the process of working through these to move them to the other categories. Many may end up in the "Abandon or Hold" category, which I have now split. If you have looked at a report and believe it is in the wrong category, let me know.   Changes to this blog include: 25 January 2018 addition for "Short Listed Candidates". Those are the cases where is there is more than one person that fits the characteristics for the grave but the list is very short. The reason for this category is for FAMILY who may be researching an UNKNOWN, so they now know it may be their relative in that grave - but it is not a positive identification. This category has also been used where one or more of the candidates has been identified elsewhere, thus shortening the list. 5 July 2018 addition of "CWGC Reports to be Submitted / Possibly Incorrect Identifications". It appears that the named person is "clearly" (not a minor question) in that grave. This has not been applied yet to cases where a recent submission (post 2000) may have misidentified an UNKNOWN (i.e. Kipling Case). 8 July 2018 added "A member is looking for this soldier". 22 July 2018 added "The Approvals Process", in concert with the 1st "Phase I" Approval. 27 October 2018 added "Abandon or Hold / Accounted for by Special Memorial(s)" - men are listed missing but may be on a Special Memorial within a cemetery   The cases are now also posted to TWITTER as: #commonwealth_found #commonwealth_help #commonwealth_correction   As always, I appreciate the assistance of any member who wishes to participate in these investigations. If a draft report is prepared, any member is welcome to review the document and provide comments, corrections or criticisms. If the report goes to the Submission Stage, any member that participated in the process can have their name added to the report. For that I need your Real Name, Affiliation (can be as simple as "Private Researcher") and your email address (so the CWGC can contact you directly if they wish).   A list of both the Canadian and Commonwealth reports that I have submitted can be found here, with download links: Main Page: http://laughton.ca/publications/unknown-project/ Canadian Reports: http://cefresearch.ca/unknown-reports/ Commonwealth Reports: http://laughton.ca/publications/unknown-project/commonwealth-unknowns/   The difference between the Canadian and Commonwealth reports is that the Canadian reports go to the CWGC Canadian Agency in Ottawa (Dominique Boulais) for review first. If acceptable to Ottawa, they then go to the Maidenhead CWGC Office (David Avery).   The Approvals Process: Phase 3 - Reviewed by Joint Casualty and Compassionate Centre: 2 October 2018 - CWGC Identification 292 - 2nd Lieutenants (2) Clark and Noon
Report: Lieutenants (2) Clark and Noon Tyne Cot British Cemetery Plot 59 Row D Grave 46 & 47 (27 August 2016)
          sent back to research team to trace all "253" aircraft
          additional research completed and submitted 8 October 2018
Forum Topic: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/242835-2nd-lts-e-v-clark-g-noon-rfc-found/  Phase 2 - Reviewed by Services Authorities (National Army Museum or Air Historical Section): 19 December 2018 - CWGC Identification Case 86-2 - APPEAL REJECTED
Report: Corporal BFG Jeffs RFC Douchy-Les-Ayette British Cemetery Plot 3 Row D Grave 7
Forum Topic: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/241174-unknown-rfc-corporal-b-f-g-jeffs-11th-sqd/ Phase I - Approved by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission (HQ Maidenhead): 21 September 2018 - CWGC Identification Case 365 - Lieutenant Alfred Eaves
Report: Lieutenant Eaves Warlencourt British Cemetery Plot 5 Row K Grave 20  (19 January 2017)
Forum Topic: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/245104-lieutenant-the-queens-royal-west-surrey-regiment/ 19 October 2018 - CWGC Identification Case 352 - Captain Vivian Hastings Clay
Report: Captain Clay Warlencourt British Cemetery Plot 6 Row F Grave 34 (28 December 2016)
Forum Topic:https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/245105-captain-v-h-clay-wiltshire-regiment-warlencourt-british-cemetery-6f34/ Submitted to CWGC - David Avery: (you can download PDF versions from my web site here) Unknowns Identified   https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/245856-lt-p-w-battersby-capt-w-w-fitzherbert-rfc-messines-ridge-british-cemetery-4e38-39/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/249166-assevillers-new-british-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254412-unknown-2nd-lt-e-c-northamptonshire-regiment-ovillers-11z1/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/255493-captain-the-loyal-north-lancashire-regiment/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/242217-unknown-sgt-major-recorded-royal-horse-guards/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/255849-royal-welsh-fusilier-2nd-lt-8-may-1916/ Incorrect Identifications https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262911-zantvoorde-british-cemetery-case-1-pte-harry-lewis-8th-bn-royal-highlanders-black-watch/ Corrections Only https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/266046-correction-report-7th-bn-aif-on-menin-gate-memorial-instead-of-villers-bretonneux-memorial/ - wrong memorial https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/259062-north-irish-horse-2-unknowns/ Draft Reports Posted for Review and Comment Unknowns Identified https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254911-unknown-officer-connaught-rangers-villers-faucon-ccext-3c14/ Incorrect Identifications now submitted, more to do, see list below To be Submitted: Unknowns Identified (all checked to make sure NO CANDIDATES are listed on a SPECIAL MEMORIAL, 27-10-2018) https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/264973-epehy-wood-farm-cemetery-epehy-case-1-leicesters-captain-with-a-military-cross/ - holding for officer report from @voltaire60 https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/264261-jeancourt-communal-cemetery-extension-12th-battalion-aif/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/265656-heath-cemetery-harbonnieres-case-2-rfc-captain-and-serjeant/ @Cheshire22 https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/265637-heath-cemetery-harbonnieres-case-1-london-regiment-serjeants/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/264975-epehy-wood-farm-cemetery-epehy-case-2-lieutenant-royal-dublin-fusiliers/ (report by @dickaren) https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/261820-csm-royal-marine-light-infantry-serre-road-no-2/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/261919-unknown-australian-buried-near-this-spot-at-pozieres/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262657-peronne-road-cemetery-case-1-csm-durham-light-infantry/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262431-templeux-le-guerard-british-cemetery-case-2-serjeant-royal-munster-fusiliers-daniel-sheehan/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263640-caterpillar-valley-cemetery-case-1-corporal-2nd-bn-leinster-regiment/ Incorrect Identifications https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/265061-the-wrong-lieutenant-colonel-hindle-or-stewart/ - the Serjeant is probably wrong as well https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263764-caterpillar-valley-cemetery-case-4-another-possible-error-argyll-and-sutherland-highlander/ Possible CWGC Reports: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263710-caterpillar-valley-cemetery-case-3-unknown-sergeant-new-zealand-regiment/ - would need war diary https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263274-gordon-dump-cemetery-case-1-unknown-2nd-lt-4th-middlesex-regiment/ - was 2nd Lt. Paterson with 4th Bn.? https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262411-templeux-le-guerard-british-cemetery-case-1-south-irish-horse/ - need confirmation of date of death https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263850-caterpillar-valley-cemetery-case-5-second-lieutenant-of-the-new-zealand-rifle-brigade/ - waiting for war diary https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254224-unknown-rsm-the-queens-royal-west-surrey-regiment/ - could we sell this to the CWGC? https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/255361-unknown-captain-mc-teall-cottage-passchendaele-new-british-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/236950-unknown-captain-royal-irish-rifles-arras-road-cemetery-2m14/ - check the topic to see if anyone reporting this 15 Dec 2018 https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/239305-unknown-corporal-6th-bn-gordon-highlanders-in-artillery-wood/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/237387-company-serjeant-major-duke-of-wellingtons-west-riding-regiment/ Short Listed Candidates https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/268329-unknown-middlesex-officer-arras-road-british-cemetery-3n8/ - has both 20th and 21st Officers in the precise area, closed https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254923-private-cyril-cornes-kings-own-yorkshire-light-infantry/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/245972-lance-corporal-thompson-or-potts-1st-bn-cheshire-regiment-september-1918/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/250371-tank-9394-name-these-two-men/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/250451-hertfordshire-serjeant-in-plot-d-grave-4-toronto-cemetery-demuin/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/250760-rfa-5th-april-1918-roye-new-british-cemetery-row-aa-grave-7/ Abandon or Hold: Accounted for by Special Memorial (added 27-10-2018 - check all cases) https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/266044-heath-cemetery-harbonnieres-case-3-7th-battalion-australian-infantry-all-in-heath-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/266045-heath-cemetery-harbonnieres-case-4 -7th-battalion-lieutenant-john-hamilton-hamblet/ Hold for the Moment https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263672-caterpillar-valley-cemetery-case-2-unknown-glasgow-highlander/ (possible 2 or 3 identifications!) https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263394-serre-road-cemetery-no-2-case-2-the-leicestershire-men-with-initials/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262471-templeux-le-guerard-british-cemetery-case-3-capt-with-pte-willis-at-ronssoy-woods/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/255391-captain-kings-royal-rifle-corps-passchendaele-new-british-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/255692-lt-2nd-lt-kings-royal-rifle-corps-found-together/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/255621-unknown-csm-vis-en-artois-british-cemetery-stumped/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/258768-unknown-officer-north-staffordshire-regiment-rue-petillon-mc-2a6/ These two are linked investigations as Northumberland Fusilier Officers. If the Unknown Captain is Lockie, then the Unknown Officer is a one of five (5) Second Lieutenants and the case for the Unknown Officer cannot be resolved: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254728-captain-northumberland-fusiliers-villers-hill-british-cemetery-7d3/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254383-unknown-officer-1213th-northumberland-fusiliers-gouzeaucourt-new-british-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254250-unknown-irish-guard-gouzeaucourt-new-british-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254250-unknown-irish-guard-gouzeaucourt-new-british-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/246656-csm-royal-sussex-regiment-venn-barnard/ hhttps://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/245762-brielen-school-yard-24-april-1915-where-is-fred-fred/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/245135-new-zealand-recovering-the-fallen/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/245101-2nd-lieutenant-henry-berners-begg-24-sqn-rfc-23-november-1916/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/244876-unknown-lieutenant-northamptonshire-regiment-corrected-title/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/243134-serjeant-g-a-johnson-durham-light-infantry/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/237837-unknown-officer-koyli-passchendaele-new-british-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/255862-royal-irish-regiment-2-lieutenants/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254213-captain-essex-regiment-villers-hill-british-cemetery-7d12/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/260487-unknown-2nd-life-guards-harlebeke-nbc-plot-17-row-a-grave-17/ Currently Abandoned https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/264174-unknown-csm-royal-irish-regiment-la-laiterie-military-cemetery/ (only missing CSM not in that area of Kemmel) https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263478-flatiron-copse-cemetery-case-1-captain-machine-gun-corps/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262480-templeux-le-guerard-british-cemetery-case-4-private-nairn-s43045/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263022-zantvoorde-british-cemetery-case-4-captain-gordon-highlanders-1914/ - no Captains missing https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262995-zantvoorde-british-cemetery-case-3-two-aviators-with-plane-serial-number/ - with Trevor Henshaw https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/260739-long-service-ribbon-argyll-sutherland-highlanders/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262094-unknown-british-officer-royal-highlander-fergusson/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262614-peronne-comm-cem-ext-case-1-uas-lcpl-2918/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262356-searching-for-unknowns-in-flesquieres-hill-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262249-unknown-lieutenant-northamptonshire-regiment/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/256161-officer-gordon-highlanders-f924-cabaret-rouge-21d15/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/255121-unknown-quartermaster-serjeant-achiet-le-grande-communal-cemetery-extension/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/237801-unknown-captain-mc-passchendaele-new-british-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/237850-ubs-lance-corporal-kings-royal-rifles-passchendaele-n-b-cem/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/238280-cpt-rutter-and-2nd-lt-jackson-one-must-presume-raf/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/238752-lance-corporal-valenciennes-communal-cemetery-49th-division/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/239532-unknown-royal-sussex-regina-trench-cemetery-6d19/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/242215-2nd-lt-royal-warwickshire-regiment/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/242604-unknown-drummer-the-loyal-north-lancashire-regiment/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/244678-buried-in-the-floor-of-st-julien-church/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/246767-two-lts-1-sgt-lancashire-fusiliers-which-set/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/247021-officer-royal-welsh-fusiliers-with-sjt-griffiths/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254295-unknown-trooper-7th-dragoon-guards-gouzeaucourt-new-british-cemetery/ http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/messenger/107279/?tab=comments#comment-199953 Casualty Already Identified: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263043-zantvoorde-british-cemetery-case-5-amerika-german-cemetery-lt-grenadier-guards/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/235231-could-this-be-pte-edward-j-read-of-london-regiment/ Report Being Prepared by Others: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/264975-epehy-wood-farm-cemetery-epehy-case-2-lieutenant-royal-dublin-fusiliers/ (Richard @dickaren) https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/247283-b20-duhallow-ads-cemetery-2-sets-of-airmen/ (Luc @LDT006) Report Submitted by Others: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254937-icrc-records-of-british-dead/ (for case relating to Lt. H. R. Smith but there are other here - Ecoust M.C.) https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262964-zantvoorde-british-cemetery-case-2-captain-royal-berkshire-regiment-1914/ (questionable at this point) https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/256961-lieutenant-royal-munster-fusiliers/ (reported approved by MOD - see this post on Lt. Gilbert Donnelly @Dr.Dan) New Cases Posted (to be sorted): https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/268716-spoilbank-cemetery-case-2-negro-corporal/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/268636-spoilbank-cemetery-case-1-captain-leinster-regiment/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/268502-b88-aeroplane-cemetery-serjeant-kings-own/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/268352-unknown-hli-corporal-arras-road-british-cemetery-2a3/ all filed for the moment Interesting Puzzle Cases https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/268782-does-this-not-seem-odd-to-you/ A Member is Looking For This Soldier https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262651-2nd-lt-maurice-humphris-garrett-15th-bn-london-regiment-prince-of-wales-own-civil-service-rifles/  @Robin Garrett   Corporal Martin Carroll #55818, Villers-Bretonneux Military Cemetery, Plot 6 Row D Grave 3 2nd Division, 4th Infantry Brigade, 19th Infantry Battalion CANADIAN EXPEDITIONARY FORCE Killed in Action of 8 August 1918 Reported Found 29 May 2015 Rededication Service 1 December 2016

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Wednesday 1st January 1919 - A march off, the wonderful HMS Concord and a friendly Marine.

Wednesday 1st January 1919   So finally we were marched off, and at Lamsdorf station boarded the train. A different kind of train it was this time, none of the cattle trucks in which we came here in, but instead real carriages with properly upholstered seats. So with eight men in a carriage we rolled away in the direction of a seaport on the Baltic Sea called Stettin. At the end of our train were two vans with two days supply of food which was issued at intervals along the route, so taking no harm until our arrival at Stetting where we left the train lined up in fours, and marched along the docks until rounding the corner of a warf the greeting we received from British sailors of H.M.S Royal Navy on board H.M.S Concord. They were evidently expecting our arrival judging by the rousing cheers that filled the air, and also our hearts with unbounded joy. It really seemed like a strange dream, almost unbelievable and we felt afraid to even rub our eyes in case it was so. The ships bad had turned out on the forward deck, and I think they played their instruments as they had never been played before, and this mob of ours seemed too full to cheer for it was a very weak attempt that was made for there were tears of joy in everyone’s eyes. We were immediately allowed to file on board, the Sergeants being ordered to fall out to one side until all the men were on board, and finally when it came to our turn we were placed in quarters with the Royal Marines. We had not been on board a quarter of an hour when it was announced that a meal was ready for us and would we please be seated. Well it all seemed too good to be true, for on sitting down to a beautiful table with snow white cloth, and on that cloth a bottle of Bass beer, also a plate with roast beef, green peas, potatoes and Yorkshire puddings. It is impossible to define our feelings, but we did not need any second invitation to eat, but were told to go steady because after the utter starvation we had experienced in the last few months, it would perhaps not agree with us it we gorged ourselves, which we felt very much like doing. The marines waited on us as if we were lords and were very kind to us indeed, in fact one would imagine that we were the actual people who had ended the war for them. After a good meal, one of the Corporals of the marines seemed to take to me, and asked if I would care to have a look over the ship from top to bottom, I say that because we started at the fighting top, or crows nest as it is sometimes called, working by stages and all the while the Corporal showing me how this worked and that was for so and so, and altogether it was a very interesting tour. On our return to quarters we were just in time to partake in an issue of rum, so having taken my ration I wandered up on to the after deck, because after this time we had moved off and were speeding down the river Oder, and I wished to see all that was to be seen while the chance lasted. By this time it was getting dusk, so I took up my post up against one of the gun turrets, because by this time that small bottle of beer, and the rum ration together were beginning to have their effect on me, and I was feeling a little unsteady, however I interested myself in one of the officers standing beside this particular turret, who with a large sketch book was rapidly sketching everything along the banks of that river. He just seemed to take a glance well ahead and start work with his pencil and almost before we were level with his object he had everything down in detail. He was a very clever man indeed. Night came upon us, and it was time to turn in, so my friend the Corporal gave up his hammock for my use, and others followed his example, so undressing I made an attempt to climb into it, but try as I may I failed each time, amid roars of laughter from the crew. It really was funny to see about twenty or so men endeavouring to get into those hammocks. At last the Corporal assisted me in and pulling the beautiful white blankets over me, bid me a good nights sleep. I think it was the most comfortable bed I ever had slept in, for I hardly seemed to have been asleep two hours when it was time to get up again. Sgt. Thomas William Chisholm (POW),
The Northumberland Fusiliers 5th Battalion, B Company Aisne, Giessen, Darmstadt, Lager 3A, Barrack 126, Lager 5
Lamsdorf O/Sch., Germany.
 

Tuesday 31st December 1918 - New Order but someone has to stay behind.

Tuesday 31st December 1918   The day begins as usual, and still we wait. In the evening orders are issued that all officers, NCO’s and men will parade outside the orderly room at 2pm tomorrow dressed ready for marching off, greatcoat and one blanket over the arm I might say that all men were ready before the appointed time, and when we did parade and were just about to march off it was found that there was one man to be left in the camp. That one man was our Serbian friend who had been so useful to us since his arrival. We pleaded with our officers to allow him to come back with us, but we were informed that if we did take him, he would not be allowed to land in England, and would only have to come back again and then as things were just mow, he was nearer his own country and no doubt the Germans would see to his comfort alright..   Sgt. Thomas William Chisholm (POW),
The Northumberland Fusiliers 5th Battalion, B Company Aisne, Giessen, Darmstadt, Lager 3A, Barrack 126, Lager 5
Lamsdorf O/Sch., Germany.

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

 

Sunday 29th + 30th December 1918 - New order, then wait!

Sunday 29th December 1918.   Orders are issued that the camp must be closed by the 1st January 1919. The excitement is great and we all start packing our little wooden boxes in readiness for the journey. Then we wait.   Monday 30th December 1918.   Still we wait.   Sgt. Thomas William Chisholm (POW),
The Northumberland Fusiliers 5th Battalion, B Company Aisne, Giessen, Darmstadt, Lager 3A, Barrack 126, Lager 5
Lamsdorf O/Sch., Germany.

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

 

Tuesday 24th December 1918 - A Christmas card of Sorts.

Tuesday 24th December 1918   As a special treat today we have been given a large amount of sausage, from the Germans but I may say that very little of it was eaten as we have any amount of our own food now. I suppose that this was sent as a peace offering owing to it being Xmas eve. Also included in the gift were two packets of tobacco and a Xmas card. The tobacco proved only to be dried oak leaves, and the card we discovered had been intended for one in England, for on the side used for correspondence, were the words “Printed in Germany”, but on the picture side the greeting was in German.   Sgt. Thomas William Chisholm (POW),
The Northumberland Fusiliers 5th Battalion, B Company Aisne, Giessen, Darmstadt, Lager 3A, Barrack 126, Lager 5
Lamsdorf O/Sch., Germany.

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

 

Thusrday 19th December 1918 - A birthday

Thursday 19th December 1918     My birthday, I am 22 today and I am very miserable indeed for I had thought to spend it in dear old England, but not so, but I had a talk with the cooks and it ended up in a nice little spread in our hut where we celebrated very well indeed under the circumstances. There are rumours again of another transport on Sunday to include in it all cripples and every two days after that.   Sgt. Thomas William Chisholm (POW),
The Northumberland Fusiliers 5th Battalion, B Company Aisne, Giessen, Darmstadt, Lager 3A, Barrack 126, Lager 5
Lamsdorf O/Sch., Germany.  

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

 

Wednesday 18th December 1918 - More men and goodbye Fred.

Wednesday 18th December 1918.   I am on duty today as Orderly Sergeant to the camp and receive order that at 7:15pm tonight there are to be four guides per company at the main gate in readiness to meet a batch of men coming in from another camp. So it came about, that Fred and I parted company on this night, and I was to sort of welcome into the camp 950 new arrivals, who in all probability would also go before I did, so I had to cover up my misery and carry on.   Thursday 19th December 1918   My birthday, I am 22 today and I am very miserable indeed for I had thought to spend it in dear old England, but not so, but I had a talk with the cooks and it ended up in a nice little spread in our hut where we celebrated very well indeed under the circumstances. There are rumours again of another transport on Sunday to include in it all cripples and every two days after that.   Sgt. Thomas William Chisholm (POW),
The Northumberland Fusiliers 5th Battalion, B Company Aisne, Giessen, Darmstadt, Lager 3A, Barrack 126, Lager 5
Lamsdorf O/Sch., Germany.

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

 

Monday 16th December 1918 - Clothing, and list of names.

Monday 16th December 1918     A large consignment of clothing arrived from Lager 1, to equip the men of the first transport. We had a very busy day but I was doomed to disappointment, for when the list of names was read over my name failed to appear, so Fred and I were very gloomy at having to be separated after all our times of strife together, for he was down to go with this first batch. However we had to make the best of things, so I helped him to pack his few goods and get him ready. After that we turned out for a smoke and a wander round the huts, before turning in for the night.     Sgt. Thomas William Chisholm (POW),
The Northumberland Fusiliers 5th Battalion, B Company Aisne, Giessen, Darmstadt, Lager 3A, Barrack 126, Lager 5
Lamsdorf O/Sch., Germany.

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

 

Monday 15th December 1918 - A canteen and poorly fed kids.

Sunday 15th December 1918           Today after a short parade and inspection by our C.O. we were dismissed and just wandered about the camp as we pleased. Our path took us into a German canteen which by appearances was used by all and sundry, as included in its customers were a few children, poorly fed, and poorly clad. They were really in a very poor state altogether, which only went to show once more the ravages of war on the younger generations. It must take a long time to make things up to pre-war standards again.
Sgt. Thomas William Chisholm (POW),
The Northumberland Fusiliers
5th Battalion, B Company Aisne, Giessen, Darmstadt, Lager 3A, Barrack 126,
Lager 5
Lamsdorf O/Sch., Germany.    

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

 

Thursday 12th December 1918 - Red Cross Parcels, cinema, and best get out of here.

Thursday 12th December 1918 Today has been spent in getting into the camp as much British Red Cross Parcels as possible and it has been arranged that before distribution all goods such as tea, cocoa, bully beef, sugar and any other things that could be used in the cook house, (for we had to have cooks on duty) so that the cooks could make them up into a decent meal. So after these articles had been extracted, we were at liberty to have as much bread, margarine, dripping, cheese, biscuits, cigarettes and tobacco as we liked and really what we do get is far in excess of our present requirements, because each man now is issued every day with:   Two loaves of milk bread, One tin of Cheese, One tin of dripping, One pound of Huntley & Palmers Biscuits Four Packets of Woodbines, One tin Margarine, One tin Jam.   These of course were only the dry goods, after that came the tea and stores which was the cooks part in the programme, so we are not taking any harm. Strict orders have been issued from Battalion Headquarters that under no circumstances is any food to be sold or given to the German troops, but it was needless to make such a decree after the treatment they had given us. Never the less we had plenty of beggars round at all times of the day and I felt that I should like to do something desperate. In the evening we go down to Lager 1 to a cinema show, it is to be in aid of the memorial which we are going to erect to our pals before we leave Germany. It proved to be a fairly good show, excepting that all the titles and the reading on the screen were in German so we failed to follow the pictures, also we were not allowed to smoke as notices were painted in two places either side of the stage “Rauchend ist Verbotten”. After the show, a party of six, of which I was one, adjourned to a small pub and had a sample of Beck Beer. This was forced through the pumps by the use of gas from a cylinder alongside the small counter. In the far corner of the room, sat a party of Jerry troops drinking and singing to the music supplied by a melodeon played by one of the party altogether everything seemed to be in a happy state, but sometimes we were the recipients of some vicious glances from them, but we took not the slightest notice of them for we were free men now, and didn’t care for all the German notions, till one of our party voiced that view, and then we thought it was time to get a move on in case it came to something worse, so we went back to camp, had a good supper of stew, and highly satisfied with our days work, went to bed to dream of the day when we should be aboard the train for merry England. Sgt. Thomas William Chisholm (POW),
The Northumberland Fusiliers 5th Battalion, B Company Aisne, Giessen, Darmstadt, Lager 3A, Barrack 126, Lager 5
Lamsdorf O/Sch., Germany.

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

 

Wednesday 11th December 1918 Lamsdorf POW a new battalion and new huts.

Wednesday 11th December 1918 Early this morning the Major from the RhD comes on first parade and proceeded to organize our troops into some sort of composite battalion, and is very successful.   He arranged that, to save the removal of any of our belongings, that each two huts should form one Company, irrespective as to what Regiment a man belonged to.   So here we are another step forward to better times, also with a much better supply of good food, things where looking more rosy.   Another surprise came to us in the afternoon, for soon after dinner, we were ordered to fall in by Companies with all our belongings, in readiness to move. Sure enough by 3.30pm we were vacating the old huts for proper barracks in Lager 5. On arrival there, we were put into good huts, with the men in the large part, and Sgt’s in the cubicles at the further end. They were furnished with about 8 bunks, a large stove, chairs and a table which made these places more like a palace, compared with what we had just left. With this move, we felt like we were actually out of German hands and management, and that we were absolutely under British rule and more, and we had a great sing song that night before going to bed.

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

 

Monday 9th December 1918 Lamsdorf POW yet another inspection and shocked inspectors.

Monday 9th December 1918 Another delegation came and inspected the camp this morning, this time from Breslau. They say that they had no idea that we were living in such squalor, and shocking conditions. It is about this time, that we learn that this camp was condemned for the habitation of British prisoners of war in its early day of existence.

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

 

Sunday, 8th December 1918 - March to the Rhine Day 21

100 YEARS AGO TODAY: The March to the Rhine - Day 21.   King George V and General William Birdwood visit the graves of several notable soldiers including, the temporary grave of Prince Maurice of Battenburg, the King's one-time equerry Major Lord Charles Mercer-Nairne, Brigadier General Francis Aylmer Maxwell VC, CSI, DSO & Bar, and Major the Hon. William George Sidney Cadogan, the equerry to the Prince of Wales. Presentation of baton of the Marshal of France to Philippe Petain at Metz, 8 December 1918. Marshal Petain, Marshal Joseph Joffre, Marshal Ferdinand Foch, General Maxime Weygand (France), Field Marshal Douglas Haig (Britain), General John Pershing (USA), General Cyriaque Gillain (Belgium), General Alberico Albricci (Italy) and General Józef Haller (Poland) awaiting the arrival of French President Raymond Poincare.   General Staff - 1st Canadian Division, C.E.F.
  13th Battalion (Royal Highlanders of Canada)

  14th Battalion (The Royal Montreal Regiment)

  15th Battlion (48th Highlanders of Canada), 3rd Inf. Bde, C.E.F.
  16th Battalion (Canadian Scottish), 3rd Inf. Bde, C.E.F.
  5th Canadian Divisional Artillery, C.E.F.
  14th Brigade C.F.A., C.E.F.

  61st Field Battery, C.F.A., 5th C.D.A., C.E.F.
  Lt Abner Virtue - 6st Fld Bty
  60th Field Battery, C.F.A., 5th C.D.A., C.E.F.
  Outside Recht, Photo: Edward Walshe   Recht, Photo: Edward Walshe   Marcard, Photo: Edward Walshe   Railway Bridge Bonn and Kirke, Photo: Edward Walshe   Dedenburg & Bonn Railway Bridge, Photo: Edward Walshe   Outside Amel, Photo: Edward Walshe   Amel, Photo: Edward Walshe   Moderscheid, Photo: Edward Walshe   Outside Moderscheid, Photo: Edward Walshe   Bullingen, Photo: Edward Walshe   Outside Bullingen, Photo: Edward Walshe   Outside Wirtzfeld, Photo: Edward Walshe   Wirtzfeld, Photo: Edward Walshe   Outside Krinkelt, Photo: Edward Walshe   Krinkelt, Photo: Edward Walshe   https://youtu.be/P7dbZQqqY60          
 

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Saturday, 7th December 1918 - March to the Rhine Day 20

100 YEARS AGO TODAY: The March to the Rhine - Day 20.   King George V talks to the Bishop of Tournai, Monseigneur Croye, during a visit to 8th Divisional Headquarters at Tournai, 7th December 1918. The house had been used as HQ by Prince Rupprecht of Bavaria, and a strong concrete dug-out against air raids was one of the prominant features. With the King is General William Birdwood, the last General Officer Commanding Fifth Army before its disbandment and Major General William Heneker, General Officer Commanding 8th Division. Staff officers of 15th Division being presented to the King by General Hamilton Reed VC, General Officer Commanding 15th Div. at a cross-roads near Thumaide, 7th December 1918.   General Staff - 1st Canadian Division, C.E.F.
  13th Battalion (Royal Highlanders of Canada)
  14th Battalion (The Royal Montreal Regiment)
  15th Battlion (48th Highlanders of Canada), 3rd Inf. Bde, C.E.F.
  16th Battalion (Canadian Scottish), 3rd Inf. Bde, C.E.F.
  5th Canadan Divisional Artillery, C.E.F.


  14th Brigade C.F.A., C.E.F.

  61st Field Battery, C.F.A., 5th C.D.A., C.E.F.
  Lt Abner Virtue - 6st Fld Bty
  60th Field Battery, C.F.A., 5th C.D.A., C.E.F.
  https://youtu.be/UnGCiMQLqI8       Poteau
 

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7th December 1918 Lamsdorf POW camp, an inspection and promises.

Saturday 7th December 1918 Another two Romanians are brought back into camp this morning. The Medical Officer, who had come to the camp, has been busy trying to get better living quarters for us and the first stage takes place today at 10.00am. He arrives at the compound in the company of a number of high officials to inspect the camp in general, and they went through every hut. On coming to the last one, the Chief was overheard to remark “It’s amazing, I don’t know how the poor fellows have lived so long in these huts. I will see what can be done to have them removed to a better place as soon as I get back to Berlin, in fact, I will send a wire”. In one part of this last hut, the side is bulging in and moisture is running through. It is from the latrine just outside, about 6 feet away from the window. As no proper places had been built, what was done, was to dig a large hole 12 feet long by 8 feet across, and 10 to 15 feet deep. Across the top of this hole length ways, were placed four planks of wood to act as seating, where we were obliged to go to do any business needed. Eventually these sumps becoming so full, that the earth between not being strong enough to withhold the strain, it took the least line of resistance, and found its way into the huts, and the smelling being so foul, it was almost impossible to live there. This afternoon it was reported that the Italian prisoners were catching the rats, and eating them as they were so hungry.      

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

 

Friday, 6th December 1918 - March to the Rhine Day 19

100 YEARS AGO TODAY: The March to the Rhine - Day 19.   18th Hussars guarding bridges over the Rhine at Cologne, 6th December 1918. King George V presenting the Victoria Cross to Lance Sergeant Walter Simpson (also know as Arthur Evans) of the Lincolnshire Regiment, 6th Battalion and temporary Commander Daniel Beak, commanding the Drake Battalion of the Royal Naval Division, at Valenciennes, 6th December 1918. "The Gaieties" a Fifth Army Concert Party, run by actor Leslie Henson.   General Staff - 1st Canadian Division, C.E.F.
  13th Battalion (Royal Highlanders of Canada)



 
14th Battalion (The Royal Montreal Regiment)

 
15th Battlion (48th Highlanders of Canada), 3rd Inf. Bde, C.E.F.
  16th Battalion (Canadian Scottish), 3rd Inf. Bde, C.E.F.
  5th Canadian Divisional Artillery, C.E.F.
  14th Brigade C.F.A., C.E.F.
  61st Field Battery, C.F.A., 5th C.D.A., C.E.F.
  Lt Abner Virtue- 61stFld Bty
  Arbrefontaine
  Arbrefontaine
  Salm Chateau
  Ville-du-Bois
       
 

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Thursday, 5th December 1918 - March to the Rhine Day 18

100 YEARS AGO TODAY: The March to the Rhine - Day 18.   King George V inspecting the Royal Guard from the Canadian Corps provided by the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry and was commanded by Captain G.W. Little, at Sebourg Chateau the King's Headquarters near Valenciennes, 5th December 1918. King George V; Edward, the Prince of Wales; Prince Albert; and General Henry Horne walking through Stambruges, 5 December 1918. Here the 175th Brigade was drawn up, under temporary command of Lieutenant Colonel Evelyn George Powell of the Grenadier Guards.   General Staff - 1st Canadian Division, C.E.F.
    13th Battalion (Royal Highlanders of Canada)

  14th Battalion (The Royal Montreal Regiment)

  15th Battlion (48th Highlanders of Canada), 3rd Inf. Bde, C.E.F.

Lt D'Esterre - 15th Bn
  16th Battalion (Canadian Scottish), 3rd Inf. Bde, C.E.F.
  5th Canadian Divisional Artillery, C.E.F.
  14th Brigade C.F.A., C.E.F.
  61st Field Battery, C.F.A., 5th C.D.A., C.E.F.
  Eglise Chauveherd
  Chauveherd
  En Floret
  Neucy
           

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Wednesday, 4th December 1918 - March to the Rhine Day 17

100 YEARS AGO TODAY: The March to the Rhine - Day 17.   General Staff - 1st Canadian Division, C.E.F.
  13th Battalion (Royal Highlanders of Canada)

  14th Battalion (The Royal Montreal Regiment)
  15th Battlion (48th Highlanders of Canada), 3rd Inf. Bde, C.E.F.
  16th Battalion (Canadian Scottish), 3rd Inf. Bde, C.E.F.
  5th Canadian Divisional Artillery, C.E.F.

  14th Brigade C.F.A., C.E.F.
  61st Field Battery, C.F.A., 5th C.D.A., C.E.F.
  Lt Abner Virtue - 61st Fld Bty
 
Hamoir
Hamoir
Ocquier
Verlaine
Verlaine-sur-Ourthe Chateau and Eglise
Verlaine-sur-Ourthe Chateau
Verlaine-sur-Ourthe Eglise
Hamoir    
 

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Tuesday, 3rd December 1918 - March to the Rhine Day 16

100 YEARS AGO TODAY: The March to the Rhine - Day 16.   General Staff - 1st Canadian Division, C.E.F.
  13th Battalion (Royal Highlanders of Canada)
  14th Battalion (The Royal Montreal Regiment)
  15th Battlion (48th Highlanders of Canada), 3rd Inf. Bde, C.E.F.
  16th Battalion (Canadian Scottish), 3rd Inf. Bde, C.E.F.
  5th Canadan Divisional Artillery, C.E.F.
  14th Brigade C.F.A., C.E.F.
  61st Field Battery, C.F.A., 5th C.D.A., C.E.F.
  Lt Abner Virtue - 61st Fld Bty
 
Bois-et-Borsu
Bois-et-Borsu
Bois-et-Borsu
Chateau Amas  
Chateau Amas
Chateau Amas
Grand Houmart
Grand Houmart
Longueville
Ocquier
Oneux
Oneux    
 

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Tuesday 3rd December 1918 Lamsdorf POW Romanians escape but are brought back again.

Tuesday 3rd December 1918 During the night shots were heard at intervals, telling us that it is either more attempted escapes, or prowling wolves.  In going out next morning for soup, we are just in time to see three guards marching two Romanians back into camp. They had escaped during the night, and had made for the village about 2 miles south west of the camp, in an endeavour to steal bread from the local bakery. They’d have succeeded very well, had they not been caught. They each carried a sack containing six loaves in each, but these were confiscated on arrival at the camp.  

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

Sgt Thomas William Chisholm

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