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As the list of UNKNOWNS (Finding the Fallen) that I am working on has grown, I find it necessary to have a place to keep a summary of the status of these cases. I have that summary in my BOOKMARKS on my computer, but this BLOG CONCEPT will allow me to keep it online and in categories.

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Categories of the UNKNOWN Cases

These are the categories that I have on my computer in bookmarks. I will update this page on a regular basis, particularly during the early phase of the "sorting into categories".   These are ONLY for the British cases here on the GWF. They do not include any of the cases on the CEFSG (here).   I was initially posting this information for the benefit of GWF PALS that wanted to investigate the case further and possibly take it to the reporting stage. I was not familiar enough with the Regiments and did not have access to the UK War Diaries, so I could not finish the case. With the assistance of the Long, Long Trail and now with Ance$try Worldwide, I am able to proceed. There are a number of these cases still listed in the final category below ("Other Cases Posted") and I am now in the process of working through these to move them to the other categories. Many may end up in the "Abandon or Hold" category, which I have now split. If you have looked at a report and believe it is in the wrong category, let me know.   Changes to this blog include: 25 January 2018 addition for "Short Listed Candidates". Those are the cases where is there is more than one person that fits the characteristics for the grave but the list is very short. The reason for this category is for FAMILY who may be researching an UNKNOWN, so they now know it may be their relative in that grave - but it is not a positive identification. This category has also been used where one or more of the candidates has been identified elsewhere, thus shortening the list. 5 July 2018 addition of "CWGC Reports to be Submitted / Possibly Incorrect Identifications". It appears that the named person is "clearly" (not a minor question) in that grave. This has not been applied yet to cases where a recent submission (post 2000) may have misidentified an UNKNOWN (i.e. Kipling Case). 8 July 2018 added "A member is looking for this soldier". 22 July 2018 added "The Approvals Process", in concert with the 1st "Phase I" Approval. 27 October 2018 added "Abandon or Hold / Accounted for by Special Memorial(s)" - men are listed missing but may be on a Special Memorial within a cemetery   The cases are now also posted to TWITTER as: #commonwealth_found #commonwealth_help #commonwealth_correction   As always, I appreciate the assistance of any member who wishes to participate in these investigations. If a draft report is prepared, any member is welcome to review the document and provide comments, corrections or criticisms. If the report goes to the Submission Stage, any member that participated in the process can have their name added to the report. For that I need your Real Name, Affiliation (can be as simple as "Private Researcher") and your email address (so the CWGC can contact you directly if they wish).   A list of both the Canadian and Commonwealth reports that I have submitted can be found here, with download links: Main Page: http://laughton.ca/publications/unknown-project/ Canadian Reports: http://cefresearch.ca/unknown-reports/ Commonwealth Reports: http://laughton.ca/publications/unknown-project/commonwealth-unknowns/   The difference between the Canadian and Commonwealth reports is that the Canadian reports go to the CWGC Canadian Agency in Ottawa (Dominique Boulais) for review first. If acceptable to Ottawa, they then go to the Maidenhead CWGC Office (David Avery).   The Approvals Process: Phase 3 - Reviewed by Joint Casualty and Compassionate Centre: 2 October 2018 - CWGC Identification 292 - 2nd Lieutenants (2) Clark and Noon
Report: Lieutenants (2) Clark and Noon Tyne Cot British Cemetery Plot 59 Row D Grave 46 & 47 (27 August 2016)
          sent back to research team to trace all "253" aircraft
          additional research completed and submitted 8 October 2018
Forum Topic: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/242835-2nd-lts-e-v-clark-g-noon-rfc-found/  Phase 2 - Reviewed by Services Authorities (National Army Museum or Air Historical Section): none Phase I - Approved by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission (HQ Maidenhead): 21 September 2018 - CWGC Identification Case 365 - Lieutenant Alfred Eaves
Report: Lieutenant Eaves Warlencourt British Cemetery Plot 5 Row K Grave 20  (19 January 2017)
Forum Topic: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/245104-lieutenant-the-queens-royal-west-surrey-regiment/ 19 October 2018 - CWGC Identification Case 352 - Captain Vivian Hastings Clay
Report: Captain Clay Warlencourt British Cemetery Plot 6 Row F Grave 34 (28 December 2016)
Forum Topic:https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/245105-captain-v-h-clay-wiltshire-regiment-warlencourt-british-cemetery-6f34/ Submitted to CWGC - David Avery: (you can download PDF versions from my web site here) Unknowns Identified https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/241174-unknown-rfc-corporal-b-f-g-jeffs-11th-sqd/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/245856-lt-p-w-battersby-capt-w-w-fitzherbert-rfc-messines-ridge-british-cemetery-4e38-39/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/249166-assevillers-new-british-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254412-unknown-2nd-lt-e-c-northamptonshire-regiment-ovillers-11z1/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/255493-captain-the-loyal-north-lancashire-regiment/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/242217-unknown-sgt-major-recorded-royal-horse-guards/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/255849-royal-welsh-fusilier-2nd-lt-8-may-1916/ Incorrect Identifications https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262911-zantvoorde-british-cemetery-case-1-pte-harry-lewis-8th-bn-royal-highlanders-black-watch/ Corrections Only https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/259062-north-irish-horse-2-unknowns/ Draft Reports Posted for Review and Comment Unknowns Identified https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254911-unknown-officer-connaught-rangers-villers-faucon-ccext-3c14/ Incorrect Identifications https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/266046-correction-report-7th-bn-aif-on-menin-gate-memorial-instead-of-villers-bretonneux-memorial/ - wrong memorial now submitted, more to do, see list below To be Submitted: Unknowns Identified (all checked to make sure NO CANDIDATES are listed on a SPECIAL MEMORIAL, 27-10-2018) https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/264973-epehy-wood-farm-cemetery-epehy-case-1-leicesters-captain-with-a-military-cross/ - holding for officer report from @voltaire60 https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/264261-jeancourt-communal-cemetery-extension-12th-battalion-aif/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/265656-heath-cemetery-harbonnieres-case-2-rfc-captain-and-serjeant/ @Cheshire22 https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/265637-heath-cemetery-harbonnieres-case-1-london-regiment-serjeants/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/264975-epehy-wood-farm-cemetery-epehy-case-2-lieutenant-royal-dublin-fusiliers/ (report by @dickaren) https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/261820-csm-royal-marine-light-infantry-serre-road-no-2/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/261919-unknown-australian-buried-near-this-spot-at-pozieres/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262657-peronne-road-cemetery-case-1-csm-durham-light-infantry/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262431-templeux-le-guerard-british-cemetery-case-2-serjeant-royal-munster-fusiliers-daniel-sheehan/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263640-caterpillar-valley-cemetery-case-1-corporal-2nd-bn-leinster-regiment/ Incorrect Identifications https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/265061-the-wrong-lieutenant-colonel-hindle-or-stewart/ - the Serjeant is probably wrong as well https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263764-caterpillar-valley-cemetery-case-4-another-possible-error-argyll-and-sutherland-highlander/ Possible CWGC Reports: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263710-caterpillar-valley-cemetery-case-3-unknown-sergeant-new-zealand-regiment/ - would need war diary https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263274-gordon-dump-cemetery-case-1-unknown-2nd-lt-4th-middlesex-regiment/ - was 2nd Lt. Paterson with 4th Bn.? https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262411-templeux-le-guerard-british-cemetery-case-1-south-irish-horse/ - need confirmation of date of death https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263850-caterpillar-valley-cemetery-case-5-second-lieutenant-of-the-new-zealand-rifle-brigade/ - waiting for war diary https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254224-unknown-rsm-the-queens-royal-west-surrey-regiment/ - could we sell this to the CWGC? https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/255361-unknown-captain-mc-teall-cottage-passchendaele-new-british-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/236950-unknown-captain-royal-irish-rifles-arras-road-cemetery-2m14/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/239305-unknown-corporal-6th-bn-gordon-highlanders-in-artillery-wood/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/237387-company-serjeant-major-duke-of-wellingtons-west-riding-regiment/ Short Listed Candidates https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254923-private-cyril-cornes-kings-own-yorkshire-light-infantry/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/245972-lance-corporal-thompson-or-potts-1st-bn-cheshire-regiment-september-1918/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/250371-tank-9394-name-these-two-men/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/250451-hertfordshire-serjeant-in-plot-d-grave-4-toronto-cemetery-demuin/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/250760-rfa-5th-april-1918-roye-new-british-cemetery-row-aa-grave-7/ Abandon or Hold: Accounted for by Special Memorial (added 27-10-2018 - check all cases) https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/266044-heath-cemetery-harbonnieres-case-3-7th-battalion-australian-infantry-all-in-heath-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/266045-heath-cemetery-harbonnieres-case-4 -7th-battalion-lieutenant-john-hamilton-hamblet/ Hold for the Moment https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263672-caterpillar-valley-cemetery-case-2-unknown-glasgow-highlander/ (possible 2 or 3 identifications!) https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263394-serre-road-cemetery-no-2-case-2-the-leicestershire-men-with-initials/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262471-templeux-le-guerard-british-cemetery-case-3-capt-with-pte-willis-at-ronssoy-woods/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/255391-captain-kings-royal-rifle-corps-passchendaele-new-british-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/255692-lt-2nd-lt-kings-royal-rifle-corps-found-together/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/255621-unknown-csm-vis-en-artois-british-cemetery-stumped/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/258768-unknown-officer-north-staffordshire-regiment-rue-petillon-mc-2a6/ These two are linked investigations as Northumberland Fusilier Officers. If the Unknown Captain is Lockie, then the Unknown Officer is a one of five (5) Second Lieutenants and the case for the Unknown Officer cannot be resolved: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254728-captain-northumberland-fusiliers-villers-hill-british-cemetery-7d3/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254383-unknown-officer-1213th-northumberland-fusiliers-gouzeaucourt-new-british-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254250-unknown-irish-guard-gouzeaucourt-new-british-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254250-unknown-irish-guard-gouzeaucourt-new-british-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/246656-csm-royal-sussex-regiment-venn-barnard/ hhttps://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/245762-brielen-school-yard-24-april-1915-where-is-fred-fred/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/245135-new-zealand-recovering-the-fallen/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/245101-2nd-lieutenant-henry-berners-begg-24-sqn-rfc-23-november-1916/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/244876-unknown-lieutenant-northamptonshire-regiment-corrected-title/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/243134-serjeant-g-a-johnson-durham-light-infantry/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/237837-unknown-officer-koyli-passchendaele-new-british-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/255862-royal-irish-regiment-2-lieutenants/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254213-captain-essex-regiment-villers-hill-british-cemetery-7d12/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/260487-unknown-2nd-life-guards-harlebeke-nbc-plot-17-row-a-grave-17/ Currently Abandoned https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/264174-unknown-csm-royal-irish-regiment-la-laiterie-military-cemetery/ (only missing CSM not in that area of Kemmel) https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263478-flatiron-copse-cemetery-case-1-captain-machine-gun-corps/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262480-templeux-le-guerard-british-cemetery-case-4-private-nairn-s43045/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263022-zantvoorde-british-cemetery-case-4-captain-gordon-highlanders-1914/ - no Captains missing https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262995-zantvoorde-british-cemetery-case-3-two-aviators-with-plane-serial-number/ - with Trevor Henshaw https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/260739-long-service-ribbon-argyll-sutherland-highlanders/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262094-unknown-british-officer-royal-highlander-fergusson/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262614-peronne-comm-cem-ext-case-1-uas-lcpl-2918/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262356-searching-for-unknowns-in-flesquieres-hill-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262249-unknown-lieutenant-northamptonshire-regiment/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/256161-officer-gordon-highlanders-f924-cabaret-rouge-21d15/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/255121-unknown-quartermaster-serjeant-achiet-le-grande-communal-cemetery-extension/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/237801-unknown-captain-mc-passchendaele-new-british-cemetery/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/237850-ubs-lance-corporal-kings-royal-rifles-passchendaele-n-b-cem/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/238280-cpt-rutter-and-2nd-lt-jackson-one-must-presume-raf/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/238752-lance-corporal-valenciennes-communal-cemetery-49th-division/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/239532-unknown-royal-sussex-regina-trench-cemetery-6d19/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/242215-2nd-lt-royal-warwickshire-regiment/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/242604-unknown-drummer-the-loyal-north-lancashire-regiment/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/244678-buried-in-the-floor-of-st-julien-church/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/246767-two-lts-1-sgt-lancashire-fusiliers-which-set/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/247021-officer-royal-welsh-fusiliers-with-sjt-griffiths/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254295-unknown-trooper-7th-dragoon-guards-gouzeaucourt-new-british-cemetery/ http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/messenger/107279/?tab=comments#comment-199953 Casualty Already Identified: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/263043-zantvoorde-british-cemetery-case-5-amerika-german-cemetery-lt-grenadier-guards/ https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/235231-could-this-be-pte-edward-j-read-of-london-regiment/ Report Being Prepared by Others: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/247283-b20-duhallow-ads-cemetery-2-sets-of-airmen/ (Luc @LDT006) Report Submitted by Others: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/254937-icrc-records-of-british-dead/ (for case relating to Lt. H. R. Smith but there are other here - Ecoust M.C.) https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262964-zantvoorde-british-cemetery-case-2-captain-royal-berkshire-regiment-1914/ (questionable at this point) https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/256961-lieutenant-royal-munster-fusiliers/ New Cases Posted (to be sorted): all filed for the moment A Member is Looking For This Soldier https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/262651-2nd-lt-maurice-humphris-garrett-15th-bn-london-regiment-prince-of-wales-own-civil-service-rifles/  @Robin Garrett   Corporal Martin Carroll #55818, Villers-Bretonneux Military Cemetery, Plot 6 Row D Grave 3 2nd Division, 4th Infantry Brigade, 19th Infantry Battalion CANADIAN EXPEDITIONARY FORCE Killed in Action of 8 August 1918 Reported Found 29 May 2015 Rededication Service 1 December 2016

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