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Numbers of British P.1907 bayonets surviving


JMB1943

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JMB

I rotated the photo and this is the best angle I can see of it. I would agree 7778 for sure.

Cheers,

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TR,

Thanks for seconding the resolution.

Regards,

JMB

Edit: We currently stand at 131, including those Bayonets (12) with incomplete numerals.

That represents 1.31% and my feeling is that we’ll end up with 1.5 - 2.5% in 5-10 yrs time.

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  • 3 weeks later...

JMB,

Another smiling tiger has shown its face, (No. 4406) for you to check out and add if appropriate. 

Cheers

TR.

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Mr TR,

Yes, another new cub in the tiger den!

Regards,

JMB

 

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And maybe time JMB for a rewrite of your article???!!! :thumbsup: 

Seriously, with all this new data you are getting close to that interesting matter of 'survivial rate' for all interested in these and other bayonets.

Julian

 

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Trajan,

SAY WHAT???

I have not even put pen to paper regarding survival rates, just have a Table of the Smiling Tiger numbers.

Wish now that I had started logging the Vickers when I became interested in bayonet & joined GWF.

Of course, unless they are numbered it can be difficult to be sure that the usual suspects don’t get re-recorded.

Only having the Siamese bayos would make for a very short article.

Regards,

JMB

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16 hours ago, JMB1943 said:

Trajan,

SAY WHAT???

 

I thought you had published someting on these in Soc.Bayonet Collectors? Happy to be corrected if wrong...

But, yes, you do have data for a survival rate analysis for these ones. You know how many were made, you know their history, you have the evidence - IIRC - that when surplus they were sold 'down under' and you have a very full list of the numbers still around - at least those in the hands of, or known to, collectors...

Julian

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JMB,

Just when things looked to be slowing down, another smiling cat face has shown up on the bay here. No 9385 for you to check in and add if appropriate.

Cheers,

TR

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3 hours ago, trajan said:

I thought you had published someting on these in Soc.Bayonet Collectors? Happy to be corrected if wrong...

But, yes, you do have data for a survival rate analysis for these ones. You know how many were made, you know their history, you have the evidence - IIRC - that when surplus they were sold 'down under' and you have a very full list of the numbers still around - at least those in the hands of, or known to, collectors...

Julian

Trajan,

If you put it like that……..I suppose that I do have enough to write up.

Many thanks for your ever-present encouragement.

Once I have finished the Reinforcement Draft article, I’ll get cracking with this one.

Regards,

JMB

 

 

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TR,

Yes, that is a new one.

Just added to the database.

Regards,

JMB

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Another new one, #6732, at online auction today.

Database stands at complete serials = 148

Incomplete serials = 12

Total serials = 160.

I shall post the table soon, so many, many thanks again to all who have contributed!

Regards,

JMB

 

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I have a 1907 1 Mk III and, separately a bayonet that was picked up from a rural WWII camp, it fits on.

Stewart

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5 hours ago, Stewart Ridgway said:

I have a 1907 1 Mk III and, separately a bayonet that was picked up from a rural WWII camp, it fits on.

Stewart

Stewart,

Thanks, but the thread is not concerned with individual Patt. 07 bayonet per se.

Please have a look at this thread starting at the very first post to see what we are trying to do.

Regards,

JMB

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JMB

Thanks for the update. 
Things a bit quite here, my computer crashed and I am using a small iPad. Just hope that I have not lost all my photo’s ect, will find out in a few days when my replacement gets connected.
A timely reminder for those using a similar system to do a back up of their important stuff.

Cheers,

TR

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      Here is the current listing of Siamese Tiger serial numbers; full =149, partial = 12, TOTAL = 161

      Many thanks to all who have contributed!

      Can we break the 200 barrier???

      Regards,

      JMB

1 1013 3008 5021 8181           808x
6 1021 3070 5027 8349              xx1
35 1115 3090 5044 8388           158x
67 1202 3155 5066 8415           32xx
96 1241 3260 5171 8651           5x46
330 1306 3290 5225 8714           608x
341 1367 3400 5278 8737           104x
404 1431 3449 5351 8793           x070
427 1485 3454 5391 8833           x22x
505 1584 3689 5405 9047           x2x2
544 1758 3797 5503 9091           x33x
577 1831 3810 5531 9130             x95
590 1889 3815 5960 9185  
625 1926 3893 6013 9229  
649 1980 3992 6107 9233  
711 2011 4060 6137 9296  
714 2078 4070 6212 9306  
732 2133 4116 6245 9338  
788 2177 4150 6285 9385  
836 2278 4403 6430 9412  
866 2280 4406 6476 9413  
941 2339 4496 6485 9502  
979 2390 4629 6630 9737  
997 2399 4651 6732 9792  
  2411 4654 6750 9931  
  2533 4770 6831 9968  
  2622 4779 7056 10,000  
  2715 4803 7094    
  2784 4983 7143    
  2815   7441    
  2851   7594    
  2902   7600    
  2925   7611    
      7745    
      7778    
      7999    
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JMB

The smiling tigers have been a bit quite here of late. Have one new number, 8104 and another one to check, 2833 before adding. There were three for sale here on the bay a couple of weeks ago but all those numbers were already listed. 

Cheers,

TR

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Mr Ryan,

Yes, it’s so quiet that you could hear a scabbard drop……with my apologies, but I couldn’t resist.

Anyway, two more for the list!

Regards,

JMB

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JMB,

Found this on a very old Gunboards thread, is it a known number?

Regards,

Mike.

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MikeyH

No 1202 is already on the above list.

Stewart Ridgway, if you go back and start at page 1 of this interesting post you will find out a little of the history of these (smiling tiger) bayonets.

Cheers,

TR

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Hi Guys .

I did a post on the Siamese Contract rifles and bayonets in a YouTube video the other week. I have some answers in regards to who released them into the market place. type in Siamese lee Enfield into YouTube or click the link below. I currently have 7 rifles and 4 Bayonets in my collection .Cheers Phil

 

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3 hours ago, Phil B said:

Hi Guys .

I did a post on the Siamese Contract rifles and bayonets in a YouTube video the other week. I have some answers in regards to who released them into the market place. type in Siamese lee Enfield into YouTube or click the link below. I currently have 7 rifles and 4 Bayonets in my collection .Cheers Phil

 

Phil,

Interesting video, many thanks for posting.

Mike.

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My first Siamese Tiger piece, the scabbard is very interesting to me, even a little damaged, it is all steel, yet is exact copy/ mold of a Britt 07’. Including chape and final, along with “ fake”? Holes from where staples were, bad part is scabbard is pushed in on the frog stud, bayonet still fits, traces of paint are clear. Recently got off eBay, was ex Brit issue

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Steve,

Thanks for posting this one.

A little difficult to read, but I would say 3958, which is a new one (if correct).

Regarding the “exact copy” scabbard, apparently the original leather rotted away very quickly in the humid, tropical climate.

The Siamese removed the staples from the top/bottom fittings and brazed those fittings onto a rolled sheet-steel body.

I have only ever seen about 3 of the original leather scabbards for sale.

Regards,

JMB

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Thank’s JMB

these are sellers photos, it sitting in my post now, be awhile before home again to play with my new toy here

Thanks for explaining the scabbard to me. Alway’s love to learn new thing’s in collecting

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