British school registers and rolls of honor

[Ajaxer]

Hello again, Dick

Can you please help me with confirmation of the first names of this man who was at Forest School.

He was killed on August 17, 1916. This is his Wisden obit:

CAPT. A. J. WAUGH (R.A.M.C attached to North Staffordshire Regiment) fell in action in August. He was in the Forest School Eleven in 1903 and two following years, being a very useful all-round player. In 1904, besides taking thirty-eight wickets for 25.07 runs each, he headed the batting averages with 33.23, scoring 128 in an innings and carrying his bat through for 79 against Aldenham. Later he appeared in Essex C. and G. matches.

CWGC has only initials and I think he is Arthur John or James.

He also played football for the Casuals.

Regards

Andrew

[rflory]

Andrew: Arthur John Waugh

[Ajaxer]

Dick

Many thanks again.

Regards

Andrew

[Hambo]

Hi Dick

Me yet again. I think you have the Wellington Register and I'm looking for what it might have on Geoffrey Ivan Francis Tothill, who, was born in 1894 so I would guess he would arrive at Wellington in about 1907

Many thanks John

[rflory]

John: From the Wellington College Register 1859-1933:

Tothill, Geoffrey Ivan Francis (Pearson's 1907-1910), son of Col. F W G Tothill, RA; RMC 1913. Withdrew and went into business. Great War 1914-1916. Commissioned RNVR, 1914. Transferred to Royal Fusiliers, 1915. Killed in action 1916.

Regards, Dick

[Hambo]

Many thanks again Dick

Best regards John

[mrfrank]

Hello Dick,

Three or four years back I obtained a couple of large, detailed photographs of the Oakham School cricket teams in 1914 and 1915. I'd be very grateful if you'd be able to provide any further service/background details from the school register, however brief, on the individuals featured. Just a full name for the missing ones if you have it would be a good start for me!

JW Heywood [appears to be a school master]

FK Thornton

Eric John Crisp

Lancelot John Austin Dewar - KIA 2 RMLI 13/11/16

James Edward Atter - KIA 5 Leics 16/4/16

Douglas Alexander Hall - KIA 10 Y&L 23/4/17

William Reginald Hill - died POW 4 Attd 12 DLI 6/11/18

Herbert Alfred Vincent Wait - KIA 2 Berks 2/12/17

JCF Wilkinson

John Christian PE Metcalfe

Arthur Percy Frank Chapman

J Wilson

Leonard Arthur Kingham - KIA 1 Berks 10/8/17

AF Taverner - KIA 1 KSLI 11/10/16

WL Barnett

Alan Bacchus Gordon

George Curtis Coleman

GE Curtis

GP Lockwood

Maurice John Kingham

Funnily enough I have both HAV Wait and AB Gordon featured together on another photo I have of E Company RMC Sandhurst in April 1916. Apologies if this is too many names to deal with in one go!

Mike

[rflory]

Mike:

Here is what I have on your men. All information from A Register of Oakham School 1875-1929 and A Register of Oakham School 1900-1950 unless otherwise indicated. The date in parathenses is the date of entering Oakham School.

JW Heywood [appears to be a school master]: no one by that name listed.

Francis K Thornton (1912): Born on 25 Oct 1898, the son of M. Thornton of Burleigh, Stoneygate Avenue, Leicester. Cricket, 1913-14; Football, 1913-14.

Eric John Crisp (1906): born 27 June 1895, son of John Crisp, Sunny Bank, Market Harborough. Left 1914. Prefect, 1912, Football, 1912-13; Capt, 1 year; Cricket, 1912-14, Capt, 1 year; later at Cambridge University and Guy's Hospital, MB. Played Football for Cambridge and Northampton. Captain, RNAS , France, Salonica, Dardanelles. After the war in practice at Market Harborough. In 1946 he was appointed to the staff of Guy's Hospital.

Lancelot John Austin Dewar (1911): Born in 1896, the son of Rev. D. Dewar, Holy Trinity Vicarage, Loughborough. Prefect, 1914; Cricket, 1913-15, Captain, 1 year; Football, 1913-14; left 1915. Sub-Lieut., RMLA, KIA at Beaumont Hamel, France, 1916. - KIA 2 RMLI 13/11/16

James Edward Atter (1910): Born, 1896. the son of J. Attery, Melton, Mowbray. Football, 1913; Cricket, 1913-14; Left, 1914. Private, 5th Leics. R. France. KIA 1916. - KIA 5 Leics 16/4/16

Douglas Alexander Hall (1911): Born in 1894, the son of Major D Hall, Burley, Oakham. Prefect, 1912; Football, 1913; Cricket, 1913-14; left, 1914. Captain, 10th Yorks and Lancs R., France, KIA, 1916. - KIA 10 Y&L 23/4/17

William Reginald Hill (1911): Born in 1896, the son of W. Hill, Polesworth, Tamworth. Prefect, 1912; Cricket, 1913-14; Football, 1912-14; left 1914. Exhibitioner, Corpus Christi College, Cambridge. Lieut., Durham Lt Infy., France; MC and Bar; Died as POW at Stralsund, 1918. - died POW 4 Attd 12 DLI 6/11/18.

Herbert Alfred Vincent Wait (1910): Born, 1898, the son of G V Wait, 45 Eastern Avenue, Reading. Prefect, 1914' Football, 1914; Cricket, 1914-15; Left 1915. RMC Sandhurst. Lieut., 1st Royal Berks R., France. KIA at Passchendale, 1917. - KIA 2 Berks 2/12/17

John Charles Foster Wilkinson (1909): Born on 10 Jan 1898, the son of Charles Wilkinson, Kirby Overblow, Pannal S. O., Yorks. Cricket, 1913-14; Football, 1913; Left 1914. Later at Leeds University. Motor Engineer. Lieut., 6th London Regiment and RFC. Military Cross, France. Lived at 13 Norfolk Road, Harrogate. In 1939 he was a Captain, RAOC.

John Christian Prideaux Eamonson Metcalfe (1909): Born on 21 Nov 1896, the son of Rev. J P Metcalfe, Newbottle Vicarage, Banbury. Prefect 1912; Football 1912-13; Cricket 1912-14; left 1914. Principal of Wallington Bible Institute (Mission Church and Training School). Captain, 11th Lancs. Fus. Military Cross, France. Lived at 55 Manor Road, Wallington, Surrey. In 1939 was Major, R Warwicks, DAAQMG.

Arthur Percy Frank Chapman (1910): Born 3 Sept 1900, the son of F E Chapman, Fritham House, Oakham. Cricket, 1914., Left 1914 and went to Uppingham. In 19295 at Pembroke College, Cambridge. With Messrs. Buchanan, Distillers. Cambridge University XI, 1919-21. England XI, 1923-26; Capt. England XI, 1927-28, 1928-29. Played for Cambridge at Assoc. and Rugby Football. Lived at North Road, Hythe, Kent. Brewer. Captain of Kent CCC.

John Wilson (1910): Born on 17 Jan 1899, the son of F G Wilson, Thistleton, Oakham. Prefect, 1915; Cricket, 1914-16, Capt 1 year; Football, 1914-16 (Capt 1 year). Captain, KGO Light Cavalry, Indian Army, 1917, India. Took part in 3rd Afghan War, 1920-22; Mesopotamia. In 1928 he was adjutant of the regiment. In 1939 was Lt. Col, NW Frontier. Later served in HQ, Chindits and HQ, 34th Indian Corps. Retired in 1948. Employed with Historical Section in India, Pakistan and London.

Leonard Arthur Kingham (1910): Born in 1897, the son of Herbert A. Kingham, Crooksbury, Reading. Prefect, 1914; Football, 1914; Cricket, 1915; Left, 1915. RMC Sandhurst. 2nd Lieut. 2nd R Berkshire R, France. KIA, 1917. - KIA 1 Berks 10/8/17

Arthur Frederick Taverner (1909): Born 1897, the son of Rev. F J W Tavener, St John's Rectory, Stamford). Prefect. 1914; Crickett, 1915; Football, 1914; left 1915. RMC Sandhurst, 1916. 2nd Lieut., 1st KOSLI, France. Died of Wounds, 1916. - KIA 1 KSLI 11/10/16

William Lear Barnett (1909): born on 11 Jan 1900, the son of W H Barnett of Oakham. Prefect, 1916. Cricket, 1915-17, Captain, 1 year; Football, 1915-17; left 1917. Police Constable, Metrop. Police Force (Harrow Road Division). Lived at 325 Harrow Road, Paddington, W9. Retired . During Second World War was Major, RA. Captured at Malaya; POW in Siam. Played in Amateur Golf Championship.

Alan Bacchus Gordon (1909): Born 11 Jun 1898, the son of W B Gordon, The Old Hall, Grassington, Ilkley. Prefect, 1914; Left, 1915. Prize Cadet, RMC Sandhurst. 1916-1922: Lieut. KOYLI, France, India, Mesopotamia, Malta, Ireland. Wool Merchant in 1922. Ripon Hall, Oxford, 1925. Ordained, 1926. St Stephen's Bradford. Lived at 28 Marshfield Street, Bradford. In Kenya, 1937. Rector of Clowne, Derbys. In 1950 was Vicar of Old Brampton, Chesterfield.

George Curtis Coleman (1913): Born on 29 Dec, 1898, the son of A T Coleman, 63 Highfield Street, Leicester. Cricket, 1915; Football, 1915. BA, Trinity Hall, Cambridge. RMC Sandhurst, 1916, Lieut, 1st Bn, Leicester. R., France. Farming. Lived at Church Farm, Thornton, Leicester.

Geoffrey Edgar Curtis (1910): Born on 25 June 1899, the son of Mrs. F. L. Chapman, guardian, Alvingham Vicarage, Louth. Prefect 1915; Cricket, 1915-16; Football, 1915-16; left 1916. On Staff of L M S Railway. Lived at Penmanmawr, North Wales. In 1950 was Chief Goods Executive Officer, B R Stow Hse, Castlecroft Gardens, Finchfield, Wolverhampton.

Geoffrey Porter Lockwood (1913): Born on 1 Nov 1899. the son of Mrs. Lockwood, 122 Cowlishaw Road, Sheffield. Prefect, 1915; Cricket, 1915-17; Football, 1915-17; left 1918. Works Manager.

Maurice John Kingham (1910): born on 19 April 1900, the son of Herbert A Kingham, Crooksbury, Reading. Prefect, 1918; Cricket, 1915-1918; Football, 1916-17; left, 1918. MA, Queen's College, Oxford. RMC Sandhurst. Lived at Abbots Ann, Wellington College Station, Berks. In 1946 was OBE (Civil). Managing Director, Orchards, Kingswood Comm., Henley-on-Thames.

[Ajaxer]

Mike

As always, Dick has provided some great information.

FYI, these Oakham boys had obituaries in Wisden, though I have found little extra detail about them [inside square brackets]:

2ND LT CHARLES CALDWELL SILLS, of the South Wales Borderers, who was born on December 24, 1893, was killed in action on September 26, 1914, at the battle of the Aisne. For five seasons he was in the Oakham School XI, being captain in 1911 and 1912… In 1913 he played an innings of 103 for Sandhurst against Woolwich. He also appeared occasionally for Aldershot Command and was a member of the MCC.

2ND LT LANCELOT JOHN AUSTEN DEWAR (RMLI), killed November 13, 1916, aged 20. Oakham School XI, 1913–14–15 (captain in 1915). {W1918}

[His brother David (“Sonnie”) died on March 22, 1918, aged 24.]

LT-COL CHARLES EDWARD FISHBOURNE (Northumberland Fusiliers), who died of wounds on October 6, 1916, aged 47, was in the Oakham School Eleven and subsequently took part in much military cricket. He served in the South African War.

2ND LT ARTHUR FREDERICK TAVERNER (Shrops Light Infantry), who died of wounds on October 11, 1916, aged 19, was in the Oakham School Eleven in 1915.

CAPT DOUGLAS ALEXANDER HALL (York and Lancaster Regt), killed April 23, 1917, aged 22. Oakham School XI, 1914.

2ND LT LEONARD ARTHUR KINGHAM (Royal Berks Regt), killed August 10, 1917, aged 20. Oakham School: captain of XI. Previously wounded.

LT HERBERT ALBERT VINCENT WAIT (Royal Berks Regt), killed on December 2, 1917, at Passchendaele, aged 19. Oakham School XI, 1914–15. {W1919}

MAJOR JOHN HUGH JERWOOD (Durham Light Infantry, attd Somerset Light Infantry). Military Cross. Twice wounded. Killed March 21, 1918, aged 28. Captain of XI at Oakham School; Jesus Coll, Camb, XI.

[His MC, gazetted two weeks before his death, states: “He maintained his position, regardless of withdrawals on his right and left and of the fact that the enemy had penetrated the line on both his flanks. He displayed a coolness and fearlessness which inspired all ranks with confidence.”]

Percy Chapman was a Wisden Schoolboy Cricketer of the Year in 1919 but by then he was at Uppingham.

I would love to see the photographs.

Andrew

[mrfrank]

Dick,

Thanks for that wealth of information on these Oakham boys. Much appreciated. Andrew, thanks for the Wisden info. If you PM me with your e-mail address I'll send you the images.

Mike

[Orson]

Hi Dick

Do you have, by chance, information on the Blue School in Wells? At the time of the war it would have been known as the Grammar school.

Thanks

Sue

[rflory]

Sue: Sorry, I have nothing on Blue School in Wells. There are very few published rolls of honours or registers for grammar schools, compared to pubic schools. Regards, Dick Flory

[Orson]

Thanks for checking, Dick

[sarahbenson]

Hi Dick

Do you have the WWI Rolls of Honour for Arlington Park College, Chiswick, and / or Gunnersbury School, Chiswick?

I am researching names on a Roll of Honour at a Chiswick church, and in some cases I'm struggling to find the link to the parish.

One of my "mysteries" was Ivor Reginald ("Jerry") Pogose, who is described in a footnote to Bill's book on Gommecourt as having attended Arlington Park College, Chiswick, which made me think you might have the Roll of Honour for the college. I am wondering if this was the link for the others? Do you have any more information for Jerry Pogose?

My other mysteries are:

Edward Pius Bendix - Sergeant L/22938, “C” Bty, 162^nd Bde, Royal Field Artillery

John Paterson Malcolm - Rifleman 4407, 1^st / 16^th London Regiment, Queen’s Westminster Rifles

Do they appear on the roll for either school?

Many thanks

Sarah

[Hambo]

Hi Dick

I don't know if you have Clifton College but my man is Leon Serena Denny born about 1877 so if you have it I would guess he arrived about 1890. Would live to know what his entry says He was killed in May 1915.

Many thanks John

[Hambo]

Hi Dick

Could you also see what there is in the Wellington register for Fitzmaurice Scoones who I don't have a DOB for but he seems to have been born circa 1895 which would put him entering the school around 1908 (I would think)

Many thanks John

[rflory]

John: Re your two officers:

1. Lieut. Valentine FitzMaurice Scoones

Son of Major F T F Scoones

Educated at Wellington College from 1909 to 1913

Enlisted in 1914

Commissioned into the 3rd Bn, Black Watch, 1916

Died on 18 August 1918

2. Capt. Leon Serena Denny

Born 1894, the son of W. Denny of Dumbarton

Educated at Clifton College from Sept. 1888 to Dec. 1894 (Junior VI; Bisley VIII)

Captain, 1st Bn, Dragoon Guards

KIA May 1915

Regards, Dick

[rflory]

Sarah wrote: "Do you have the WWI Rolls of Honour for Arlington Park College, Chiswick, and / or Gunnersbury School, Chiswick?"

Sarah: Sorry, but don't have anything on either of those schools.

[Hambo]

Dick, as always, many thanks and a Happy New Year

Best regards John

[archivist]

Dick

This is extremely kind of you. Would you have a register for Sleaford Grammar School, Lincolnshire. Name I am searching for is Alfred Greetham. He joined RFA in May 1917. Would have been at the grammar school from c.1906 - 1912 or a bit later.

Many thanks and kind regards.

[mcope]

Hi Dick,

Could I please request a look up for a Rugbeian named Arthur Keith Sanderson, 2/Lt. 5th Bn. Middlesex Regiment attd. 7th Bn. London Regiment, k.i.a., 25/9/15

Many thanks,

Martin

[rflory]

Archivist wrote: "Would you have a register for Sleaford Grammar School, Lincolnshire."

Sorry but do not have a register for Sleaford Grammar School.

[rflory]

mcope wrote: "request a look up for a Rugbeian named Arthur Keith Sanderson, 2/Lt. 5th Bn. Middlesex Regiment attd. 7th Bn. London Regiment"

2nd Lieut. Arthur Keith Sanderson

Born on 23 September 1894 he only son of Arthur Bengough Sanderson, of Morven, Potter's Bar, Middlesex, Managing Director of Arthur Sanderson & Sons, Ltd., London.

Educated at Rugby School from September 1908 to May 1913 and at Pembroke College, Cambridge from 1913 to 1914

At the outbreak of war he enlisted in the 1st Public Schools Bn, Royal Fusiliers

In May 1915 he was commissioned in the 5th Bn, The London Regiment

Went to France with the 7th Bn, The London Regiment on 17 August 1915

Killed in action at Loos on 25 September 1915 at the age of 21

Sources: Memorials of Rugbeians Who Fell in the Great War, Volume II; Rugby School War Register; Rugby School Register, Annotated, 1892-1921;

Pembroke College, Cambridge, War List, 114-1918.

[Hambo]

Hi Dick

Sorry to be a pest but I keep turning up more queries at the moment with a new memorial I'm researching

I have the Charterhouse register Vol II from 1892 but my man must be in Vol I if you have it. Gordon Winch who was born in 1876 so probably arrived circa 1890. Was a Major in the RFA had the DSO and died of wounds, Most interested in the dates he was at the school and anything else it may contain

Thanks John

[rflory]

Major Gordon Bluett Winch, DSO, RFA

Born 26 Dec 1876, the fifth, and youngest, son of George D. Winch and Mary Bluett Winch, of Chatham, Kent

Educated at Charterhouse School from Oration Quarter 1891 to Long Quarter, 1894 and Trinity College, Cambridge (BA)

Promoter and First Secretary of Cambridge Football League

Founder of the Tomtit Cricket Club

Member of Lloyd's

Joined the Stock Exchange, 1901

Barrister, Levien & Winch, 1902

Middle Temple

Director of Messrs. Uzielli, Insurance Brokers

In 1904 he married Gertrude Dale, daughter of Theodore Uzielli

Joined A Battery, Honourable Artillery Company in 1905

Gazetted 2nd Lieut., 5th London Brigade, RFA (TF) in Sept 1913

Promoted Lieut., RFA (TF) in Sept 1914

Went to France with A Battery, 235th Brigade, RFA (TF) in March 1915

Took part in the fighting at Givenchy, Festubert, La Basse and Loos

Appointed Acting Captain, RFA (TF), Feb 1916

Returned home in June 1916 and to train and take command of A Battery, 285th Brigade, RFA (TF) and took it to France in Feb 1917

Appointed Acting Major, RFA (TF), June 1916

Distinguished Service Order, London Gazette of 1 January 1918 for gallantry and distinguished service at Langemarck.

Mention in Despatches, London Gazette of 14 December 1917

Wounded on 9 April 1918 during the retreat from Armentieres and died of wounds the next day at No. 33 Casualty Clearing Station.

Buried at the British Military Cemetery, Haversberghe

The photo is from the third-named source.

Sources: Charterhouse Register 1872-1971, volume I, 1872-1910; Charterhouse in London; The Roll of Honour (De Ruvigny); The Honourable Artillery Company in the Great War 1914-1919; The Distinguished Service Order 1886-1923; Cross of Sacrifice, Volume 1.