British school registers and rolls of honor

[rflory]

Sydney Temple Swaby

Born 31 Jul 1875, the he younger son of Rev. William Proctor Swaby of Millfield Vicarge, Sunderland (afterwards Bishop of Barbados)

At Rugby School from April 1887 to 1892 and at New College, Oxford from 1892 to 1896 (XV 1892; BA 1896.

He does not appear to have served in the Great War

Sources: Rugby School Register, vol. III from May 1874 to May 1904.

[rugbyremembers]

Thank you Dick. My conclusion is that he is clearly not the 21 year old ST Swaby who died in 1918 and is on CWGC.

I can only presume that the Hon Sec of the Club saw a name in the newspaper and jumped to a conclusion without investigating further.

The perils of 'well-meaning but unreliable witnesses'.

Across the whole war, he appears to have been wide of the mark by underrecording some 30+ players - in itself, some proof of the scale of loss in this communityand the difficulty of keeping track.

Many thanks as always.

Stephen

[Hambo]

Dick

i need to trouble you again if you don't mind

Hoping you have Repton and Claud Furze LRB he went on to Jesus College Cambridge but I don't know when

Also Lawrence Forbes, also LRB who went to Marlborough College

and Kenneth Forbes, Winchester College doen't seem to be related to the above also LRB

Thanks in advance John

[rflory]

Captain Claude Furze

Born on 31 May 1891, the son of F Furze of 6 Welbeck House, W.

Educated at Repton School from Jan 1906 to Dec 197 and at Jesus College, Cambridge from 1910 to 1913 (BA, 1913)

Served with 5th London Rifle Regt,

Served in France from 1914-1918

Captain, June 1916

Died of wounds, 6 April 1918

Sources: Repton School Register, 1922; Old Reptonian War Register, 1914-1919: The War List of the University of Cambridge.

2nd Lieut. Lawrence Forbes

Born on 13 May 1881, the son of T. L. Forbes, London

Educated at Marlborough College from Sept 1892 to 1898

Employed by Lloyds in 1903

2nd Lieut., 5th London Regt.

Died of wounds, 9 July 1917

Source: Marlborough College Register 1843-1933.

Lieut. Kenneth Forbes

Born on 13 June 1893, the son of T. Forbes, East House, Pinner

Educated at Winchester College from 1906 to 1912

Joined London Rifle Brigade, 1914

Lieut.

Killed in action at Ploegsteert on 10 Feb 1915

Sources: Wykehamist War Service Roll, 1919; Winchester College 1884-1934, A Register.

[Hambo]

Dick

Thanks again

Best regards John

[bigronhartley]

Hello Dick

I would be most grateful if you would be kind enough to see if there is an entry for James Cecil Findlay in the Repton School Register/Roll of Service in the Great War. The 1911 Census shows he was a scholar (Boarder) at Repton School. Many Thanks.

Regards

Ron

[rflory]

Capt. James Cecil Findlay

Born on 27 July 1884, the son of G H Findlay, 15 Louis Street, Leeds

Educated at Repton School from Sept 1908 to July 1912

2nd Lieut., 7th W York Regt (TF), August 1914

Lieut., Dec 1916

Captain, July 1917

Served in France from April 1915 to Sept 1916 and Mar 1917 to Oct 1917

Junior Instructor, 49th Divisional School from Feb 1916 to June 1916

With Foreign Office from January 1918 to April 1919

Demobilized in April 1919

Twice wounded during the Great War

Married in 1920, they had one son and three daughters

In 1922 he lived at 5 Gill Road, Yeadon, Leeds

Asst. Co. Comm., Boy Scouts

O.C., Ilkley Squad, ATC

Died 7 July 1954

Sources: Repton School Register, 1922; Repton School Register, Supplement to the 1933 Edition, 1957; Repton School War Register.

[bigronhartley]

Hello Dick

Many thanks for your help, it is much appreciated.

Regards

Ron

[clive_hughes]

Hello again Dick,

Request please for information on the following, if possible:

ADEANE, Henry Robert Augustus. Born 1882, educated at Winchester before going to Sandhurst and later serving with the Coldstream Guards. Killed Ypres 2.11.14 aged 32.

Thank you,

Clive

[rflory]

Captain Henry Robert Augustus Adeane

Born on 31 July 1882, the son of Vice Admiral E. S. Adeane, CMG, JP, FRGS and Lady Edith Isabella (née Dalzell), daughter of 11th Earl of Carnwath, of 28 Eaton Place, SW

Educated at Mr. G T Worsley's School at Hillingdon and at Winchester College from Short Half, 1895 to 1900 (House Prefect)

Gentleman Cadet at RMC, Sandhurst in 1901

Commissioned 2nd Lieutenant in the 2nd Battalion, Coldstream Guards in 1902

Promoted Lieutenant, 1905

On 25 September 1909, he married Victoria Eugénie Bigge, daughter of Baron Stamfordham, PC, GCB and they had a son, Michael Edward Adeane, born on 30 September 1910

Promoted to Captain, 1912

Retired as a Captain in May 1913

Recalled from the reserves in August 1914

Went to France early in the war with the 1st Battalion, Coldstream Guards

Killed in action at Veldhoek on 2 November 1914 at the end of the Battle of Ypres

The photo of Adeane, below, is from the first listed source.

Sources: Wykehamists Who Died in the War 1914-1918, Volume 1; Winchester College 1884-1934, A Register; Wykehamist War Service Roll, 1919; The Bond of Sacrifice, Volume I.

[clive_hughes]

That's most kind of you Dick, and a nice image as well.

Thanks very much,

Clive

[clive_hughes]

Dick,

Sorry to bother you so quickly, but I've just been able to confirm that a Royal Navy casualty, Lieut. Oscar Humphrey STOEHR (born 1889, Midshipman 1905, killed HMS Vanguard 1917) had an elder brother Charles Felix Stoehr born c.1883 who was educated at Repton. Later Indian army and served WW1, died 1932.

Are you able to check Repton for his younger brother please, just in case he was there?

Clive

[rflory]

Clive: Charles Felix Stoehr is the only one with that surname in the 1922 Repton School Register. Regards, Dick

[clive_hughes]

That's fine Dick, thank you very much for checking.

Clive

[rugbyremembers]

Dick, Help once more please. Robert Sinclair Carson of Bedford School (source unclear if Modern or Grammar) Died 1916 as Pte 10/Royal Fusiliers, but trying to verify Bedford attendance pre WW1.Many thanks and apologies for one-line post as return function seems to have failed. Stephen

[rflory]

Stephen: Unfortunately all my Bedford School sources are post WWI. Regards, Dick Flory

[Hambo]

Hello Dick

Not sure if you have St Paul's but if so I'm interested in Thomas Ide, who, looking at his age would have arrived in about 1905 and George De Salis who I think left in 1916

Also (if you have it) Christ's Hospital, Harry Walsham who I estimate should be arriving there in about 1907.

All three fell during the war

Many thanks, as always John

[rflory]

John: Here is what I have on your three men:

2nd Lieut. Thomas Norman Ide, Essex Regt.

Born on 4 Jan 1893, the son of T. J. Ide, a merchant, of Havestock Hill

Attended St. Paul's School from Autumn Term 1908 to December 1910 (played for 3rd XI)

Worked for Lloyd's

On the outbreak of war joined the Public Schools Brigade

Gentleman Cadet, RMC, Sandhurst

Commissioned 2nd Lieut, Essex Regt., July 1915

During the Great War was a 2nd Lieut. Essex Regt.

Killed in action on 2 July 1916

Sources: St. Paul's School Register, 1990; The Pauline, November 1916.

2nd Lieut. George Rodolph Fane de Salis, Middlesex Regt.

Born on 1 June 1898, the son of C. F. de Salis, CB, JP/Alderman of Dawley Court, Uxbridge

Educated at Lancing College from September 1911 to December 1913 (Heads, Scholar) and at St. Paul's School from Autumn 1913 to December 1916

2nd Lieut., 8th Bn, Middlesex Regt.

Killed in action in France on 21 June 1917

A classmate wrote: 'At school he seemed to have no wish to attain those distinctions which are usually sought after, but for all that distinction was part of his nature,

and he had in him all the qualities necessary to fearless soldier, a loyal friend, a man of honest, blunt, but attractive character.'

A photo of de Salis is below (from the last mentioned source).

Sources: St. Paul's School Register, 1990; The Pauline, July 1917; The Lancing Register, Third Edition to 1932; The Lancing Roll of Honour 1914-1919.

2nd Lieut. Harold Walsham

Educated at Christ's Hospital from 1905-1910

Served as 2nd Lieut., 7th Bn, KRRC

Died of wounds, 18 September 1915 in France

Source: Christ Hospital Roll of Service 1914-16.

[Hambo]

Thanks Dick very much appreciated

All the best John

[emjayen]

Hi, new to the forum and would like to take advantage of your generosity. I am researching the 2nd Batt Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers at Festubert 1915 and have identified the following officers, all of whom were unfortunately Killed in Action:

• Lionel St George Mordaunt-Smith, attended Charterhouse 1910-1914
• Oliver George Norman Stacke, attended Sherborne School 1910-1913?
• John Houghton Stewart, attended Bradfield College, 1909-1914?
• Alfred Douglas Wingate, attended Dulwich College 1908-1913?

I would appreciate any information you could provide on these officers

Many thanks

Mike

[rflory]

Lieut. Lionel St George Mordaunt-Smith

Born at Dover Lodge, Rugby on 23 Ap 96, the eldest son of Mordaunt Kirwan Mordaunt-Smith of Milton Bank, Laugharne, Carmarthenshire

Educated at Elstree School and at Charterhouse from Oration 1910 to Oration 1913

Gentleman Cadet, RMA Sandhurst

2nd Lieut. R Inniskilling Fusiliers, Oct 1914

Initially attached to the 3rd Bn at Elrington Barracks, Londonderry

In late 1914 he was posted to the 2nd Bn

KIA at Festubert on the night of 15-16 May 15 while leading his platoon in an attack on the German trenches which he had almost reached when he was killed.

His photo (on the left) is from the second-mentioned source.

Source: Charterhouse Register 1872-1931; The Bond of Sacrifice, Volume II.

Lieut. Oliver George Norman Stacke

Born in 1894, the son of H. A. Stacke of 25 Cleveland Gardens, Hyde Park, London W.2.

Educated at Sherborne School from First Term 1909 to 1912 (VI, 1911; VIII, 1912; Bowen History Prize, 1911)

Gentleman Cadet, RMC, Sandhurst

Lieut., 2nd Bn, R Inniskilling Fus.

Killed in France on 17 May 15

Sources: The Sherborne Register, Third Edition; Old Shirburnian Navy & Army List 1914-1919; The Sherborne Register, Supplement 1900-1921;

Lieut. John Houghton Stewart

Born in November 1895

Educated at Bradford College from Jan 1909 to July 1913 (Shooting VIII, 1913)

Gentleman Cadet, RMC, Sandhurst

Lieut., R Inniskilling Fus.

KIA, 24 May 15 or 16 May 15

Sources: Bradford College Register 1924;

2nd Lieut. Alfred Douglas Wingate

Born at Nasik, Bombay Presidency on 12 June 1894, the only surviving son of Sir Andrew Wingate, KCIE, ICS of 'Riverdale', Twickenham Park, Middlesex and his wife, Henrietta Catherine, daughter of the late Col. Duncan Scott Pemberton, RA

Educated at Dulwich College from 14 Dec 07 to July 1912 (OTC)

Gentleman Cadet, RMC Sandhurst, Feb 1913 (King's India Cadet; Revolver Team vs. Woolwich, 1914; Silver Cup in Revolver Competition)

2nd Lieut, Indian Army, August 1914

Attached 4th Reserve Bn, R. Inniskilling Fusiliers at Lenan Camp, Donegal

Went overseas in November 1914 with the 2nd Battalion, R Inniskilling Fus.

During Great War commanded regimental bombers

KIA at Richebourg L'Avoué on 15 May 15. His body was found on 20 May 15 just beyond the parapet of the German trench by the 1st Bn, HLI and was buried where it lay.

His photo (on the right) is from the second-mentioned source.

Sources: Dulwich College Register 1619-1926; Dulwich College War Record 1914-1919; The Bond of Sacrifice, Volume II: De Ruvigney's Roll of Honour.

Wingate's photo

[emjayen]

Thanks for your prompt reply. You have taken me a few steps further!

Regards

Mike

[Ajaxer]

Dick

You were brilliantly helpful three years ago in discovering the identity of Niel Fagan who had written in a copy of Wisden 1912 which he gave as a birthday present to his father.

I have another question:

Can you find anything please on C G Clarke who went to Bradfield College and was in the cricket team there in 1916.

He would have been too young to spend much time in the war and hopefully he survived.

Best regards

Andrew

[rflory]

Lieut. Christopher Garrard Clarke, RN

Born in April 1898

Attended Bradfield College from Sept 1912 to July 1916 (Exhibitioner, 1912; Prefect, 1915; Cricket XI, 1914-16, Captain, 1915; Football XI, 1914-15, Captain, 1915;

Public School Cadet, Royal Navy

R.N.C., Keyham, 1916-17

Lieut, RN

Died, 1925

Sources: Bradfield College Register, 1924; Bradfield College Register, 1935.

[Ajaxer]

Dick

Another wonderful result with an identity revealed.

It seems he did not survive for long.

Thank you so much.

Best regards

Andrew