tankengine888 Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 10 hours ago, Uncle George said: I swear I can remember it! I'll try not to spill the beans but there's a Royal Family connection, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner 87 Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 (edited) I hope I haven't jumped in at an inappropriate time but I think the first photograph is Earl Winfield Spencer and the second, Ernest Simpson, both of who were marred to Wallis Simpson who went onto marry King Edward VIII after his abdication. Edited 22 December , 2022 by Gunner 87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 6 hours ago, tankengine888 said: Hint: British Army for 20 Years, then he took his discharge only for the war to come around and for him to gain a commission in the 1/AIF How about Major General Sir John Gellibrand?, about the only one I can find that fits that criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankengine888 Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 13 minutes ago, Knotty said: How about Major General Sir John Gellibrand?, about the only one I can find that fits that criteria. no comment.. except good job! You got it! I don't have anyone up my sleeve anymore since all I'll pick is some obscure Private! Zidane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 34 minutes ago, tankengine888 said: no comment.. except good job! You got it! I don't have anyone up my sleeve anymore since all I'll pick is some obscure Private! Zidane But ilkley remembers guessed it was Gellibrand on 4 July, and you told him “Nah”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 5 hours ago, Gunner 87 said: I hope I haven't jumped in at an inappropriate time but I think the first photograph is Earl Winfield Spencer and the second, Ernest Simpson, both of who were marred to Wallis Simpson who went onto marry King Edward VIII after his abdication. Yes indeed. ‘Earl Spencer’ is a eerie echo of that other unhappy Royal marriage. ‘The Heart Has its Reasons’ is the title of Wallis’ memoirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 53 minutes ago, Uncle George said: But ilkley remembers guessed it was Gellibrand on 4 July, and you told him “Nah”. Oops, 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 Haven't partaken for a while, but here's a jolly Jack Tar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 I haven't played in a while... OK.. Navy guy. Lt Cdr ... another hint perchance?? M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 Hi M, He also looks to be on a sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankengine888 Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 1 hour ago, Uncle George said: But ilkley remembers guessed it was Gellibrand on 4 July, and you told him “Nah”. 18 minutes ago, Knotty said: Oops, 😳 My mistake, it's not him! I do apologize. I thought it was him when I referrred back, but it isnt. I have the correct name [found the original source]. Hint: He commanded a South Australian Battalion Once again, very sorry for the c*ck-up. 2 minutes ago, Knotty said: Hi M, He also looks to be on a sub Should I take an educated guess and say the submarine involved was sunk in 1918 with 9 survivors... Near the Dardanelles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 Both of you are spot on. There you go Marilyne. You might have to be quick 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 (edited) Was he one of the submariner VC’s (posthumously?) Edited 22 December , 2022 by Knotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 3 minutes ago, Knotty said: Was he one of the submariner VC’s (posthumously?) Sorry to be pedantic, but no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 27 minutes ago, tankengine888 said: Hint: He commanded a South Australian Battalion I’d like him to be Stanley Price Weir - a very interesting man, he enlisted as a private in 1885 and became a Brigadier General. But he was awarded the DSO, which by your earlier clue rules him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 OK, so the sub is the E14. It's not a posthumous VC, so it's not Lt Cdr Wright... leaves the previous CO of the sub (I was not sure if I saw that correctly on the pic) ... Edward Boyle??? M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 15 minutes ago, neverforget said: Sorry to be pedantic, but no. We’ve had Norman Holbrook on WIT, so my next guess would be Lt-Cdr Edward Boyle of the E14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 Just now, Knotty said: We’ve had Norman Holbrook on WIT, so my next guess would be Lt-Cdr Edward Boyle of the E14 our messages crossed.... either we're both right, or we'll both have to shamefully go into hiding ..; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 😁 I think we are both correct👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 3 minutes ago, Knotty said: We’ve had Norman Holbrook on WIT, so my next guess would be Lt-Cdr Edward Boyle of the E14 2 minutes ago, Marilyne said: our messages crossed.... either we're both right, or we'll both have to shamefully go into hiding ..; Both quite correct of course. Honours even. 👍To go with Boyle's V.C. all members of the crew received gallantry medals. https://www.warandson.co.uk/index.php/news/24-gunboats-and-gallipoli-the-perils-of-a-wwi-british-submarine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 One of 7 VC holders to be cremated at Woking Crematorium, they have a plaque with all their names inscribed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 (edited) Following the subs’ commanders theme, who is this ? ? ? The submarine involved was an ill-fated sort of submarine/aircraft carrier hybrid. (A family connection of sorts for me.) EDIT: image from hmse22.wix.com Edited 22 December , 2022 by Uncle George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 R.N.A.S? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankengine888 Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Uncle George said: Following the subs’ commanders theme, who is this ? ? ? The submarine involved was an ill-fated sort of submarine/aircraft carrier hybrid. (A family connection of sorts for me.) Possibly HMS M1 or M2 or even M3? Perhaps I'm looking too far ahead 1 hour ago, Uncle George said: I’d like him to be Stanley Price Weir - a very interesting man, he enlisted as a private in 1885 and became a Brigadier General. But he was awarded the DSO, which by your earlier clue rules him out. That hint was when I thought it was Gelilibrand... Ignore that hint. The only valid one is commanding South Australian Battalion. I apologize for the mix-up once again Not Weir.. A relative of mine served under Weir on April 25th, 1915 [P.W Foster, later K.I.A 50th Btn] as one of the first. Indeed an interesting man! Most of his Militia Officers came with him with the 10th Battalion. Done some research on that Battalion [attempting to identify men from 10th Battalion Company/Reinforcement photographs] among other units. Weir below Edited 22 December , 2022 by tankengine888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 22 December , 2022 Share Posted 22 December , 2022 4 minutes ago, neverforget said: R.N.A.S? No - he was appointed to the submarine service as a Sub-Lieutenant. Apparently his father was a Baron of the Russian Empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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