Who is This ? ? ?

[neverforget]

5 minutes ago, Uncle George said:

Are these the Cromwell sisters? 

https://www.abmc.gov/news-events/news/together-life-and-death-cromwell-sisters-wwi

Short and sweet; got it in one Uncle George. Tragic story.

[tankengine888]

I've got one if anyone would like to take a stab at it..

WiT

[Bob Davies]

On 24/04/2024 at 22:20, tankengine888 said:

I've got one if anyone would like to take a stab at it..

WiT

Hi Zidane,

I am going nowhere fast with this Wit?

Can we have a clue please?

Best wishes, Bob

[Knotty]

Been in self imposed exile, but been watching, pretty sure that I found @tankengine888 chap yesterday, stupidly didn’t make a note and I can’t remember his name, it’s a slightly strange one  I’ll have a pitch at Lieutenant-Colonel Fox Dark or something like that, died 1915 iirc.

 

 

[tankengine888]

9 hours ago, Knotty said:

Been in self imposed exile, but been watching, pretty sure that I found @tankengine888 chap yesterday, stupidly didn’t make a note and I can’t remember his name, it’s a slightly strange one  I’ll have a pitch at Lieutenant-Colonel Fox Dark or something like that, died 1915 iirc.

That's your hint @Bob Davies, hopefully sufficient.

Congrats on moderator by the way.

[Knotty]

@02:45, this morning, and in the doghouse with SWMBO, I found him again, he is Lt- Col Lancelot Fox Clarke killed 25 April 1915, at Gallipoli after climbing the Sphinx to get to Russell Top. He had commanded the 12th Battalion ashore about an hour before and was the first Battalion commander to be kia.

Back to bed for a bit extra shut eye…….doubtful.

@Bob Davies, what’s this about a moderator, just picked that out and spotted avatar….best be careful on the music thread😂

[neverforget]

14 hours ago, Bob Davies said:

Hi Zidane,

I am going nowhere fast with this Wit?

Can we have a clue please?

Best wishes, Bob

Congratulations on your new appointment Your Honour. 

[tankengine888]

59 minutes ago, Knotty said:

@02:45, this morning, and in the doghouse with SWMBO, I found him again, he is Lt- Col Lancelot Fox Clarke killed 25 April 1915, at Gallipoli after climbing the Sphinx to get to Russell Top. He had commanded the 12th Battalion ashore about an hour before and was the first Battalion commander to be kia.

Back to bed for a bit extra shut eye…….doubtful.

@Bob Davies, what’s this about a moderator, just picked that out and spotted avatar….best be careful on the music thread😂

Lieutenant Colonel Lancelot Fox Clarke is correct. One, if not the oldest Gallipoli Lander. An interesting character hence why I picked him.

He was killed whilst writing down information in a notebook, his batman was also killed. I believe the Adjutant was wounded trying to get to his body.

[Bob Davies]

4 hours ago, tankengine888 said:

That's your hint @Bob Davies, hopefully sufficient.

Congrats on moderator by the way.

Thank you Zidane

1 hour ago, Knotty said:

@02:45, this morning, and in the doghouse with SWMBO, I found him again, he is Lt- Col Lancelot Fox Clarke killed 25 April 1915, at Gallipoli after climbing the Sphinx to get to Russell Top. He had commanded the 12th Battalion ashore about an hour before and was the first Battalion commander to be kia.

Back to bed for a bit extra shut eye…….doubtful.

@Bob Davies, what’s this about a moderator, just picked that out and spotted avatar….best be careful on the music thread😂

Well found John

You all behave impeccably, so carry on chaps 

1 hour ago, neverforget said:

Congratulations on your new appointment Your Honour. 

Thank you Steve, my time to give something back to the Forum.

Best Wishes All,

Bob.

[Uncle George]

1 hour ago, Bob Davies said:

Thank you Zidane

Well found John

You all behave impeccably, so carry on chaps 

Thank you Steve, my time to give something back to the Forum.

Best Wishes All,

Bob.

A Witter as a Moderator? Whatever next? There have been a few times of friction between the two: notably, the Great Skindles Standoff of 2014. And now, a Witter has become a Mod! A poacher turned gamekeeper, if you will.

Anyway, who is this ? ? ?
 

 

 

[Bob Davies]

55 minutes ago, Uncle George said:

A Witter as a Moderator? Whatever next? There have been a few times of friction between the two: notably, the Great Skindles Standoff of 2014. And now, a Witter has become a Mod! A poacher turned gamekeeper, if you will.

Anyway, who is this ? ? ?
 

 

 

I am seeing Bavarian buttons and and Iron cross, so a German soldier is about as far as I have got.

I hope not to 'upset the apple cart' Uncle George.

[Uncle George]

6 minutes ago, Bob Davies said:

I am seeing Bavarian buttons and and Iron cross, so a German soldier is about as far as I have got.

I hope not to 'upset the apple cart' Uncle George.

‘Poacher turned gamekeeper’ is nothing more than a clue. But congrats - now we have a man on the inside! A fifth columnist, as it were. (This is not a clue, by the way.)

[Bob Davies]

2 hours ago, Uncle George said:

‘Poacher turned gamekeeper’ is nothing more than a clue. But congrats - now we have a man on the inside! A fifth columnist, as it were. (This is not a clue, by the way.)

Cheers UG   That made me smile!

Your clue lead me straight to him.

He is a sniper named Georg Herrenreiter.

[Uncle George]

42 minutes ago, Bob Davies said:

Cheers UG   That made me smile!

Your clue lead me straight to him.

He is a sniper named Georg Herrenreiter.

Yes indeed. His story, and image, are here:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Herrnreiter

For those, possibly Wykehamists, who have no German, I’ve attached a translation of part of that page, courtesy of ‘Reverso’. And here’s something from Reddit.com:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ColorizedHistory/comments/d53bdi/ww1_sniper_with_121_kills_gefreiter_corporal/

 

 

[tankengine888]

On 27/04/2024 at 20:40, Uncle George said:

 

A bit of a non-WiT question-

Is it common to see epaulette buttons on the collar (as seen on the quoted WiT photo)?

[Uncle George]

3 minutes ago, tankengine888 said:

A bit of a non-WiT question-

Is it common to see epaulette buttons on the collar (as seen on the quoted WiT photo)?

Sorry mate - haven’t a clue. Perhaps an expert, @GreyC maybe, might be able to help.

[GreyC]

On 27/04/2024 at 13:40, Bob Davies said:

Bavarian buttons and and Iron cross, so a German soldier

A Bavarian Gefreiter to be precise.

The button on the back of the collar is the Gefreitenknopf (but the same button was used to denote any Gefreiter of any German state).

Were there lacing on the collar and the button a bit larger it would be a sergeant, Vizefeldwebel, Feldwebel or Offizierstellverteter depending on additional signs of rank.

Edited Sunday at 16:35 by GreyC

[Uncle George]

10 minutes ago, GreyC said:

A Bavarian Gefreiter to be precise (but the same button was used to denote any Gefreiter of any German state).

The button on the back of the collar is the Gefreitenknopf.

Were there lace on the collar and the button a bit larger it would be a sergeant, Vizefeldwebel, Feldwebel or Offizierstellverteter depending on other signs of rank.

Thanks very much indeed for this speedy and informative reply - most interesting.

[GreyC]

Pleasure!

GreyC

[Bob Davies]

9 minutes ago, GreyC said:

Pleasure!

GreyC

Thank you GreyC, that is very helpful of you.

[GreyC]

Have a nice Sunday.

GreyC

Edited Sunday at 16:50 by GreyC

[GreyC]

Maybe of interest:

Sergeantenbutton:
ø 29 mm tolerance + 1,5 mm.

Gefreitenbutton :
ø 25 mm tolerance  ± 0,50 mm.

GreyC

Edited yesterday at 10:24 by GreyC

[tankengine888]

8 minutes ago, GreyC said:

Maybe of interest:

Sergantenbutton:
ø 29 mm tolerance + 1,5 mm.

Gefreitenbutton :
ø 25 mm tolerance  ± 0,50 mm.

GreyC

17 hours ago, GreyC said:

A Bavarian Gefreiter to be precise.

The button on the back of the collar is the Gefreitenknopf (but the same button was used to denote any Gefreiter of any German state).

Were there lacing on the collar and the button a bit larger it would be a sergeant, Vizefeldwebel, Feldwebel or Offizierstellverteter depending on additional signs of rank.

Did rather slip my mind.

Thanks for all this! Very interesting- I thought it was an epaulette button for a short-shouldered man, but evidently not!

Zidane,

[tankengine888]

On this day, April 30th, my 16th birthday, I have a uncovered a new WiT.

WiT

 

 

Edited 20 hours ago by tankengine888

[neverforget]

7 hours ago, tankengine888 said:

On this day, April 30th, my 16th birthday, I have a uncovered a new WiT.

WiT

 

 

Happy birthday to you. It must be my birthday too because I think I know this one. 

I'll let it run for now, so someone else can get first prize.