ss002d6252 Posted 10 December , 2016 Share Posted 10 December , 2016 Quote Westmeath Independent, October, 1916. Late Lieutenant P J Kelly, R. F. A. Sincere regret was occasioned in Athlone at the intelligence of the death of Lieutenant P J Kelly, R. F. A. Before receiving his commission in the Kitchener army, Mr Kelly was engaged in legal business in Athlone, and was a prominent member of the Athlone Boat Club, and several other local societies. He was a native of CountyClare. Much sympathy is felt for his young widow and child. Newspapers/Books etc; Westmeath Independent, October, 1916. Late Lieutenant P J Kelly. At the meeting of the Third Order of St Francis on Sunday evening, Very rev. Fr Fidelis asked the prayers of the members for the late Lt P J Kelly, who, up to the time he joined the colours, was a very efficient Secretary of the Branch. Clare Journal and Limerick Chronicle, October 1916. Lieutenant P. J. Kelly, R. F. A. Lieutenant P. J. Kelly, R. F. A. , whose death is reported from Athlone, where he had been in the legal business before getting his commission, was a prominent member of the Athlone Boat Club. He was a Clare man, being, we understand, son of Mr P. Kelly, Caher, Feakle, East Clare. Westmeath Independent, November, 1914. Lieutenant P J Kelly, R. F. A. Mr P J Kelly, has been granted a Commission in the R. F. A. , and will begin training at Newbridge. Mr Kelly has been in Athlone for some four years, and in that comparatively short period he had made a host of friends. He was vice President of the Athlone Division, A. O. H. , Secretary to the Athlone Boat Club, and Insurance Secretary in the A. O. H. he was a Clerk in the firm of—ily and Fair, solicitors. Mr Kelly was also a prominent member of St Peter’s Pioneer Total Abstinence Association. His departure from Athlone will be sincerely regretted, and he take with him the best wishes of his many friends for success and -----promotion in his new sphere. Westmeath Independent, May, 1915. Lieutenant P J Kelly. Lieutenant P J Kelly, R. F. A. , has been transferred to Athlone, where he will be stationed for some time with his Battery. His many friends are pleased to have him amongst them again. Freeman’s Journal, 03/10/1916. Sincere regret was occasioned in Athlone at the intelligence of the death of Lieutenant P J Kelly, R. F. A. Before receiving his commission in the Kitchener army Mr Kelly was engaged in the legal business in Athlone, and was a prominent member of the Athlone --- Club and several other local -----. He was a native of CountyClare, and great sympathy is felt for his young widow and child. How about O'Kelly ? Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 10 December , 2016 Author Share Posted 10 December , 2016 Freaking hell Craig! I never thought to look in the probates, well done. You deserve a medal. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 10 December , 2016 Share Posted 10 December , 2016 Quote Clancy, Patrick. (Tipperary). Rank- Private. Regiment or service; Irish Guards. Date of death; . Born, . Residence, . Death- . Supplementary information;- According to the Commonwealth War Graves Commission these are false reports. ‘The only Patrick Clancy I can find in the Irish Guards was discharged in 1919 and there is no GRO death entry for such a name – in any year. ’. Newspapers/Books etc; Tipperary Star, September, 1915. Toomevara Notes. Parish Hall. At the Front. Private D Doherty, who has been on active service in Flanders since the commencement of the war, was lucky enough to escape uninjured though through many tough engagements until last week, when a German hand grenade got him. He is now in one of the Army Hospitals in England suffering from a severe wound in the head. Before entering on his present service he was a time expired man, but having joined the auxiliary forces he was lucky enough to be in the first batch of the Expeditionary Forces which sailed out for France just after the Germans had violated Belgian neutrality. Previously he had seen service in India, and South Africa. His mother, who lives in Toomevara, has been notified that he has been wounded, but so far it is not known how seriously. Private John Leamy is home on furlough before setting out again for the scene of hostilities. Leamy, who is in the Guards, was slightly wounded in Flanders, but has completely recovered, and expects to be back in a week or so in the trenches. Patrick Clancy, a young lad who joined the colours after the war commenced, is now on his way to France—John Hayes, of Ballinree, who returned to attend his fathers funeral from France has again sailed for the front. Michael and Frank Connors, sons of Mr Jeremiah O’Connor, late postman, Toomevara, have joined during past month. Tipperary Star, October, 1915. Death of a Toomeyvara Man at the Front. Private Patrick Clancy, of the Irish Guards, who was severely wounded on the 18th inst, has died of his wounds at Abbeville Hospital, France. What gives a more pathetic touch to the death of young Clancy is the fact that on the day on which he received his death wound his mother had a letter from him in which he described his experiences of the trenches from which he had just been relieved. He was evidently in the best of spirits and had the highest praise for the men of his company. It is surmised by his family that he must have been wounded on his return to take up duty at the line of trenches, and so far all that is known is that he died on Monday morning from the hospital but confirmed subsequently from the War Office. A Roscrea Priest. During his last hours young Clancy was attended to by a young Roscrea priest, Rev. Father Owens, son of Mr P. Owens, B. A. , late principal of the RocreaSchool, and now manager of the Roscrea bacon factory. Mr Owens was for some time, prior to his appointment to Roscrea N. S. , principal of the Toomevara school where he made many life-long friends. Father Owens has written a very consoling letter to Clancy’s mother and assured her that her son was quite resigned and calmly awaited the end which he knew was approaching. His last request to Father Owens was to write to his mother and request he not to be too much worried at the news. Father Owens, describing the wounds says he was hit in four different places—chest, back, shoulders and thigh. A severe wound in the back, however, was the cause of the young soldier’s death. The Guards. Young Clancy was only 24 years of age and being in England at the outbreak of hostilities he, on the appeal for recruits by Mr Redmond, joined the Territorials. He was, however, anxious, to get into the splendid Irish regiment—the Irish Guards—and only awaited his training and physical development to get transferred to that unit. Though the Guards have suffered more perhaps in this year than any other regiment, still most young Irishmen are anxious when joining the army to be in that body. Clancy was of that way of thinking also and six weeks ago, when returning from a short furlough, he had been transferred. He was a general favourite with those of his own age in Toomevara and will be much regretted by all who knew him. Requieseat in pace. Clancy ? Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_Fielding Posted 10 December , 2016 Share Posted 10 December , 2016 Agreed! See #288+9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 10 December , 2016 Share Posted 10 December , 2016 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Simon_Fielding said: Agreed! See #288+9 1 hour ago, museumtom said: Freaking hell Craig! I never thought to look in the probates, well done. You deserve a medal. Kind regards. Tom. You'd have thought an Irish paper would know better than to drop the 'O'' off I find the probate's can be good for officers records. Craig Edited 10 December , 2016 by ss002d6252 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 10 December , 2016 Author Share Posted 10 December , 2016 This is very good Craig and Simon, I have him listed as Cahill with parents Brigid and Patrick Clancy. So Clancy must be his true name. I will change it now. Craig, A great bit of detective work. Usually we drop the O, but O'Kelly is a rare name ( only 2 O'Kelly casualties in the 26 counties) I had not considered it. A great bit of lateral searching indeed, well done and thank you very much indeed. It just goes to show lots of minds are better than one. Brilliant stuff, thank you again lads and lassies. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_Fielding Posted 11 December , 2016 Share Posted 11 December , 2016 Reynolds First name(s) - Last name Reynolds Gender Unknown Birth year - Death year 1918 Death date Dec 1918 Reported date 1918 Vessel name Panayiotis Departure port - Series BT 334 Box 0072 Record set Deaths at sea, 1781-1968 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 11 December , 2016 Author Share Posted 11 December , 2016 Thank you Simon. Great stuff. This man is a total mystery, its says "" Discharged from the A. I. F. , 21-July-1920" and it shows this in his records. I think he is listed in the Kilrush casualties in error? I hate to guess but would he have died and it not have been known at the time? In the PDF below they are listed as two separate people. http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/history/clare_men_women_great_war_3.pdf Peter Reynolds: Moore St, Kilrush, Australian Imperial Force. Date of death unknown. KM. Peter Reynolds: Kilrush, Wounded, France, August, 1917; died Secondee, Gold Coast, West Africa, Sept 1918. Admirality ship "SS Panayiotis" Son of William and Bridget Reynolds. (TB) KM (See Profiles of the Clare War Dead N-W) I will be in and out here all day, Sunday is busy for me so please dont thinki I am ignoring ye. Thank you very much indeed for all your help. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_Fielding Posted 11 December , 2016 Share Posted 11 December , 2016 Can only see one Peter Reynolds b Kilrush: Name: Peter Reynolds Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1895 Registration district: Kilrush Birth Country: Ireland Volume: 4 Page: 294 FHL Film Number: 101065 31 May 1895 father = William *sea captain* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_Fielding Posted 11 December , 2016 Share Posted 11 December , 2016 Service no: 1685 - '21 8/12' on enlistment on 26/2/16... A seaman by profession… Could the 1920 date simply refer to the time he was struck off the strength of the A E F as they didn't know what happened to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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museumtom Posted 11 December , 2016 Author Share Posted 11 December , 2016 (edited) Great stuff Simon. Thank you kindly. I am now digesting it. Kind regards. Tom. Edited 11 December , 2016 by museumtom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 11 December , 2016 Author Share Posted 11 December , 2016 (edited) Yes indeed Simon I think you have nailed it, This would not have been believeable without the docs you supplied. How you managed to search in this way only you know but the outcome seem clear. I also agree that at the time of his discharge in 1920 he was already dead There is a story here for a great book! Thank you very much indeed for your tenacity and help. Kind regards. Tom. Edited 11 December , 2016 by museumtom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_Fielding Posted 11 December , 2016 Share Posted 11 December , 2016 You're welcome of course: I think the reference to him being wounded in September 1917 in France is just chat… This looked interesting: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=cY2oAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA152&lpg=PA152&dq="SS+Panayiotis"&source=bl&ots=MYquyfeZFM&sig=bU1RzHx73P9R-YaItiSmJ14doDU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZtJPJsuzQAhUkLsAKHfCQA0QQ6AEIIjAC#v=onepage&q="SS Panayiotis"&f=false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 11 December , 2016 Author Share Posted 11 December , 2016 Good one, Simon, well spotted. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 14 December , 2016 Author Share Posted 14 December , 2016 Help again please guys and gals. I cannot find a dickeybird on this lad. NO MIC, records, CWGC, SDGW, not a sausage. Can you help please? He looks easy enough to find, but no, he is not. Thank you very much indeed in advance. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 14 December , 2016 Share Posted 14 December , 2016 9 minutes ago, museumtom said: Help again please guys and gals. I cannot find a dickeybird on this lad. NO MIC, records, CWGC, SDGW, not a sausage. Can you help please? He looks easy enough to find, but no, he is not. Thank you very much indeed in advance. Kind regards. Tom. It's badly worded - did he die of wounds received on 19 Oct 16 or did he die on 19 Oct, of wounds received previously - but I'll take a look and see what I can see. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 14 December , 2016 Author Share Posted 14 December , 2016 Thanks Craig, it looks like it can be taken either way, the date of the article is 08/11/1916 so he died between then and October 19, 1916. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 14 December , 2016 Author Share Posted 14 December , 2016 Craig I have to head off shortly, so I will not be back before lunchtime. Thank you kindly for all your help. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_Fielding Posted 14 December , 2016 Share Posted 14 December , 2016 Possibly? APC Roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 14 December , 2016 Author Share Posted 14 December , 2016 Oooh Simon that looks good. Army Pay Corps and his number, what a great start. How does this look? name(s) Arthur Herbert Last name Delamere Age 30 Birth year 1889 Birth county Essex Birth country England Service number 1700 Regiment Army Pay Corps Year 1919 Residence county London Residence country England Series WO 363 Series description WO 363 - First World War service records 'burnt documents' Archive The National Archives Record set British Army Service Records Category Military, armed forces & conflict Subcategory First World War Collections from Great Britain Thank you kindly Simon. Kind regards. Tom. Feck, he was medically examined in 1919. So its back to the drawing board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 14 December , 2016 Author Share Posted 14 December , 2016 He had no record of injuries either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandererpaul Posted 14 December , 2016 Share Posted 14 December , 2016 (edited) Could Sgt. A. Dellamere have used an alias? For solidiers of the Royal Dublin Fusiliers who died on 19/10/1916 and lived in Somerset there's this one (But they have serving as Colman.): http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/511046/CRAPP, A O There aren't many other Serjeants from the RDF killed in October/November 1916. http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx?cpage=1&sort=dateofdeath&order=asc Edited 14 December , 2016 by wandererpaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 14 December , 2016 Author Share Posted 14 December , 2016 Well Paul, it looks like it ticks all the boxes!! Now digging for clues to connect them together. Thank you very much and well done! Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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