ilkley remembers Posted 6 February , 2023 Share Posted 6 February , 2023 57 minutes ago, neverforget said: and fame/infamy came from the period between the wars. Dabbled in far right politics perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 6 February , 2023 Share Posted 6 February , 2023 2 minutes ago, ilkley remembers said: Dabbled in far right politics perhaps Not so, in fact he was in Hitler's black book. He was thought by some to be guilty of murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 6 February , 2023 Share Posted 6 February , 2023 10 minutes ago, neverforget said: He was thought by some to be guilty of murder. Is this the Dr who allegedly euthanised George V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 6 February , 2023 Share Posted 6 February , 2023 1 minute ago, ilkley remembers said: Is this the Dr who allegedly euthanised George V Rather more than allegedly. He freely admitted it. Dawson said that he acted to preserve the King's dignity, to prevent further strain on the family, and so that the King's death at 11:55 p.m. could be announced in the morning edition of The Times newspaper rather than "less appropriate evening journals" Following the outbreak of World War I, he was given the rank of colonel in the Royal Army Medical Corps in November 1914. He served on the Western Front in France from 1915 to 1919, rising to the rank of major-general (he had served as a Royal Army Medical Corps officer in the Territorial Force for many years), noticing the poor physical fitness of British troops and conducting research into trench fever. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand_Dawson,_1st_Viscount_Dawson_of_Penn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 6 February , 2023 Share Posted 6 February , 2023 P.S. Image of Dawson taken from here: https://www.politico.eu/article/accession-council-archaic-royal-ceremony-charles-to-be-proclaimed-king/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 6 February , 2023 Share Posted 6 February , 2023 1 hour ago, neverforget said: Rather more than allegedly. He freely admitted it. Dawson said that he acted to preserve the King's dignity, to prevent further strain on the family I hesitate to suggest that he was doing what doctors have done for many years and indeed still do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 6 February , 2023 Share Posted 6 February , 2023 1 minute ago, ilkley remembers said: I hesitate to suggest that he was doing what doctors have done for many years and indeed still do Absolutely. Withholding sustenance is another tactic. I speak from personal experience of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 6 February , 2023 Share Posted 6 February , 2023 (edited) Another doctor mentioned in despatches for his GW service. He was also awarded the MC for his service on the Somme. Who is he ? ? ? EDIT: Image from Wikipedia. Edited 7 February , 2023 by Uncle George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 6 February , 2023 Share Posted 6 February , 2023 UG Can I assume that his “service”, MC and MID’s were for his medical work under fire and not for physical fighting action, so he was always a doctor, not a soldier who became a medic? Back to the chase after a good kip….g’night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 10 hours ago, Knotty said: UG Can I assume that his “service”, MC and MID’s were for his medical work under fire and not for physical fighting action, so he was always a doctor, not a soldier who became a medic? Back to the chase after a good kip….g’night He served with the RAMC during the GW. And, in another similarity with NF’s man, was ennobled, in his case in 1943. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 I thank you, the search begins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 Is it an early picture of Harold Gillies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 Is this another personal doctor to one of the great and the good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 (edited) Charles Wilson Doc to Churchill. Born just down the road in Skipton. Last year thought about buying the house a few doors up from his childhood home but the parking was poor so didn't bother proceeding. Edited 7 February , 2023 by ilkley remembers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, neverforget said: Is it an early picture of Harold Gillies? It is not. 27 minutes ago, ilkley remembers said: Charles Wilson Doc to Churchill. Yes, Lord Moran. I like the advice given by Churchill’s Private Secretary John Colville, when asked by a new junior private secretary what he should do if Churchill became ill while he was on duty. Colville replied, “You telephone Lord Moran and he will send for a real doctor”. Moran wrote a book about WSC, ‘The Struggle for Survival’ (1966): it was thought, by Clementine and others, to be a breach of patient-doctor confidentiality. Edited 7 February , 2023 by Uncle George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 (edited) Another ‘first’ here, called up, it is thought, as a result of a clerical blunder. Who is she ? ? ? (I’m talking about the woman, not the dog, in case you were wondering.) EDIT: Image from here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nicole_Girard-Mangin,_1916.jpg Edited 7 February , 2023 by Uncle George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 Was she called up as a result of being assumed to be male? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 2 minutes ago, neverforget said: Was she called up as a result of being assumed to be male? That is thought to have been the case, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 Makes one wonder why the mistake once it was realised was not rectified. Presumably a medic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 Just now, neverforget said: Presumably a medic. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 Elizabeth Garrett Anderson (1836-1917), the first woman to qualify in Britain as a physician and surgeon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 1 minute ago, neverforget said: Elizabeth Garrett Anderson (1836-1917), the first woman to qualify in Britain as a physician and surgeon? Not her, no. The name of le chien was ‘Dun,’ if that’s any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 Indeed it is. Nicole Girard-Mangin The first female medical doctor to serve in the French Army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 1 minute ago, neverforget said: Indeed it is. Nicole Girard-Mangin The first female medical doctor to serve in the French Army. Yes indeed. Wikipedia tells us, “There might have been an error in her paperwork, which led to a clerk thinking that he was calling up Dr. Gerard Mangin. Nevertheless, her paperwork was in order and as a result, she became the first woman doctor in the French Army”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 Interesting lady. Sad end to her life following her service: "Girard-Mangin died on 6 June 1919, of a suspected overdose. Her biographer suggests that she was suffering from an incurable cancer and wished to shorten her suffering. An atheist, Girard-Mangin received a civilian funeral." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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