Uncle George Posted 31 January , 2023 Share Posted 31 January , 2023 1 minute ago, neverforget said: He did put into writing his humorous account of the war, but unfortunately didn't get to finish it. I was just about to say, ‘Pilsudski?’. But now I don’t think I’ll bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 31 January , 2023 Share Posted 31 January , 2023 7 minutes ago, Uncle George said: I was just about to say, ‘Pilsudski?’. But now I don’t think I’ll bother. You'd be right not to bother. My man was born in Austria Hungary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 This is Jaroslav Hasek the author of 'The Fate of the Good Soldier Sevjk During The Great War' which is the shortened version of the original title. One of Trotskys mates and had he not died in 1923 might have endured a similar fate at the hands of Comrade Stalin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 (edited) Yes, well done. Fought on both sides and joined three different armies. In February 1915 he was called up to the Austro-Hungarian army. He was transported to the Eastern front in Galicia (now Ukraine). He served on the front until 24 September 1915 when he was captured by the Russians and sent to the Totskoye camp in Orenburg Governorate. Here he joined the Czechoslovak Legion in 1916. Then he was drafted into the 1st Regiment, where he worked as a scribe, emissary of the recruitment committee and gunner. Then he was transferred to the connecting section, machine-gun section (in which he participated in the Battle of Zborov against the Austrians) and the office of the 1st Regiment. In April 1918 he transferred from the legions to the Red Army. At the end of 1918 he served as commander of the Chuvash troops in the Red Army and as deputy military commander of the Bugulma district. Even though he didn't get to finish Good Soldier that didn't stop it being translated into some 60 languages, making it the most translated novel in Czech literature. On "The Good Soldier": A number of literary critics consider The Good Soldier to be one of the first anti-war novels, predating Erich Maria Remarque's All Quiet on the Western Front. Joseph Heller said that if he had not read The Good Soldier Švejk, he would never have written his novel Catch-22. Sue Arnold, writing in The Guardian, stated "Every harassed negotiator, every beleaguered political wife and anyone given to ever-increasing moments of melancholy at the way things are should keep a copy of Hasek's classic 'don't let the ******** get you down' novel to hand. It's anti-war, anti-establishment, anti-religion and - praise indeed - even funnier than Catch-22." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaroslav_Hašek Edited 1 February , 2023 by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 20 minutes ago, neverforget said: Yes, well done. Fought on both sides and joined three different armies. In February 1915 he was called up to the Austro-Hungarian army. He was transported to the Eastern front in Galicia (now Ukraine). He served on the front until 24 September 1915 when he was captured by the Russians and sent to the Totskoye camp in Orenburg Governorate. Here he joined the Czechoslovak Legion in 1916. Then he was drafted into the 1st Regiment, where he worked as a scribe, emissary of the recruitment committee and gunner. Then he was transferred to the connecting section, machine-gun section (in which he participated in the Battle of Zborov against the Austrians) and the office of the 1st Regiment. In April 1918 he transferred from the legions to the Red Army. At the end of 1918 he served as commander of the Chuvash troops in the Red Army and as deputy military commander of the Bugulma district. Even though he didn't get to finish Good Soldier that didn't stop it being translated into some 60 languages, making it the most translated novel in Czech literature. On "The Good Soldier": A number of literary critics consider The Good Soldier to be one of the first anti-war novels, predating Erich Maria Remarque's All Quiet on the Western Front. Joseph Heller said that if he had not read The Good Soldier Švejk, he would never have written his novel Catch-22. Sue Arnold, writing in The Guardian, stated "Every harassed negotiator, every beleaguered political wife and anyone given to ever-increasing moments of melancholy at the way things are should keep a copy of Hasek's classic 'don't let the ******** get you down' novel to hand. It's anti-war, anti-establishment, anti-religion and - praise indeed - even funnier than Catch-22." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaroslav_Hašek Excellent and a good choice for a WiT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 As per usual for me, I stumbled across him while looking into someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 7 minutes ago, neverforget said: As per usual for me, I stumbled across him while looking into someone else. Yes rather like this one Another surprising omission from the Pantheon of WiTs, although, he has a handful of mentions on the forum. A man with a multitude of talents who found his wartime métier in ‘cloak and dagger’ operations. Liked and disliked in almost equal proportions but was an alleged attempt at regicide his undoing? He also has an odd West Midlands connection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 George McMahon? (He said, dubiously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 (edited) Charles Thoroton? Edited 1 February , 2023 by Uncle George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 21 minutes ago, neverforget said: George McMahon? (He said, dubiously). 19 minutes ago, Uncle George said: Charles Thoroton? Sadly, neither of these two. This chap was the defendant in a trial in the 1930s when he was charged with offences under the Official Secrets Act which largely stemmed from his wartime service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 Another little clue for our smart marine He hailed from County Durham but identified as Scottish. He is buried on a Hebridian Island which, all things considered, is most appropriate given his most famous and enduring work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 14 minutes ago, ilkley remembers said: Another little clue for our smart marine He hailed from County Durham but identified as Scottish. He is buried on a Hebridian Island which, all things considered, is most appropriate given his most famous and enduring work Compton Mackenzie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 Good shout Uncle George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 44 minutes ago, Uncle George said: Compton Mackenzie? Help yourself to a wee dram in celebration of a fine effort Sir Edward Montague Compton Mackenzie, to give him his Sunday name. Variously an author, spy, actor historian and tax evader. His literary output was prodigious and he is most famous for ‘Whisky Galore’ which later became a film and in which he actually appears. Born in West Hartlepool, County Durham, into a famous acting family he was well connected and Sir Ian Hamilton obtained for him a commission into the Royal Marines. Service at Gallipoli didn’t suit and he transferred into the intelligence service and was heavily involved in the machinations surrounding the involvement of Greece in WW1. It is alleged that he was involved in a plot to poison pro-German King Constantine 1st which did him no great favours with his lords and masters. He wrote about his involvement in the book ‘Greek Memories’ in which he ill advisedly named various others involved and thus fell foul of the Official Secrets Act. He lost the case and the book was banned and only published in full in 2011. The West Mids connection is he eschewed support for his home town football team, Hartlepool, and preferred to affiliate with West Bromwich because apparently he liked the name of the ground, The Hawthornes’. An unusual fact about him is that he is one of only 2 WW1 veterans to have appeared on the BBC Childrens show ‘Jackanory’, the other being John Laurie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 Another splendid WiT from IR. Following the theme, who is this rather louche Marine and Intelligence officer ? ? ? Although he died in the 20’s he had an effect on strategic planning for the Second war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 I know that "frog" !! M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 35 minutes ago, Uncle George said: Following the theme, who is this rather louche Marine and Intelligence officer ? He seems to have taken the phrase 'whiskey galore' rather too literally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 1 minute ago, ilkley remembers said: He seems to have taken the phrase 'whiskey galore' rather too literally That, sadly, was indeed the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 3 minutes ago, Uncle George said: That, sadly, was indeed the case. Depending on your view he either drank himself to death or imbibed poisoned whiskey kindly donated to him by the Japanese. Nice link with the previous post and a good story. You man is Lt. Col. Earl Hancock Ellis USMC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 3 minutes ago, ilkley remembers said: Depending on your view he either drank himself to death or imbibed poisoned whiskey kindly donated to him by the Japanese. Nice link with the previous post and a good story. You man is Lt. Col. Earl Hancock Ellis USMC Yes, indeed he is. Image and story from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Hancock_Ellis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 His strategic knowledge is that of amphibious operations. Hence tbe "frog" reference... M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankengine888 Posted 2 February , 2023 Share Posted 2 February , 2023 New bloke.. Met an unfortunate end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 2 February , 2023 Share Posted 2 February , 2023 5 hours ago, tankengine888 said: New bloke.. Is this Talbot Hobbs who died at sea on route to attend the opening of the Australian National Memorial at Villers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankengine888 Posted 2 February , 2023 Share Posted 2 February , 2023 2 minutes ago, ilkley remembers said: Is this Talbot Hobbs who died at sea on route to attend the opening of the Australian National Memorial at Villers? Good thought, but no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 2 February , 2023 Share Posted 2 February , 2023 4 minutes ago, tankengine888 said: Good thought, but no. Have a tad more confidence with this suggestion. Killed in an air crash Sir Cyril Brudenell Bingham White, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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