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1 minute ago, ilkley remembers said:

Have a tad more confidence with this suggestion. Killed in an air crash Sir Cyril Brudenell Bingham White,

Correct. He engineered the evacuation off ANZAC, promoted to Chief of the General Staff in WW2 and died before Australians saw action in the Second World War.

Zidane.

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6 minutes ago, tankengine888 said:

Correct. He engineered the evacuation off ANZAC, promoted to Chief of the General Staff in WW2 and died before Australians saw action in the Second World War.

Zidane.

Lot of 'bling' on his chest although he doesn't seem to be wearing his Japanese Order of the Rising Sun....I wonder why?

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8 minutes ago, ilkley remembers said:

Lot of 'bling' on his chest although he doesn't seem to be wearing his Japanese Order of the Rising Sun....I wonder why?

Am I the only one who feels 'bling' is informal?
I'm not sure when that photo was taken.. I assume it was towards WW2 which would explain why he's not wearing it, though he died before Japan did anything relating in WW2 [Pearl Harbour, Darwin, etc]

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POINT OF ORDER

For a long time we were obliged by diktat from the Mods to state the source of any posted photograph (after the WiT has been solved). This would appear now not to be the case. 
 

What is the current position?

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Good point. I expect that the same still applies but one or two of us have forgotten to comply, myself included. Thanks for the reminder.

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4 minutes ago, neverforget said:

Good point. I expect that the same still applies but one or two of us have forgotten to comply, myself included. Thanks for the reminder.

I’m surprised we haven’t been pulled up, so strict were they. To the extent of banishing us to Skindles, which led to the closure of the old thread (which now appears to have been forever lost) and the opening by the Lord Protector of this current incarnation.

That’s how I remember it anyway.

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1 hour ago, Uncle George said:

Lord Protector of this current incarnation.

Hope he's doing ok. Much missed. 

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4 hours ago, neverforget said:

Hope he's doing ok. Much missed. 

Indeed. Following a recent theme and the seemingly zigzag guidance concerning the sources of photographs - who might this be ? ? ?
 

P.S. - he is not Pierre Laval

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EDIT: image from here: https://hatch.kookscience.com/wiki/Armgaard_Karl_Graves

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2 hours ago, Uncle George said:

he is not Pierre Laval

Nor Herbert Lom, who would have been a shoo in for the part in a biopic. Are you prepared to divulge which recent theme mon oncle?

Pete.

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6 minutes ago, Fattyowls said:

Nor Herbert Lom, who would have been a shoo in for the part in a biopic. Are you prepared to divulge which recent theme mon oncle?

Pete.

Intelligence. ‘Zigzag’ is a heavy clue. As, I suppose in a roundabout way, is Laval.

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UG

Would “zigzag” be an interpretation for double agent?

Laval is a palindrome in France,surely 😁

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Just now, Knotty said:

UG

Would “zigzag” be an interpretation for double agent?

Yes. You may remember that film with Christopher Plummer.

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1 hour ago, Uncle George said:

You may remember that film with Christopher Plummer.

That must be Triple Cross,so we are looking for German/English spy

 

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Just now, Knotty said:

That must be Triple Cross,so we are looking for German/English spy

 

Yes. In the main, in the years directly before the war.

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Is this man one of the reasons that Robert Graves was believed to have been a spy?

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7 minutes ago, Uncle George said:

Yes. In the main, in the years directly before the war.

His name was Graves but can't remember his full name...think that he was basically a blackmailer

 

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2 minutes ago, Knotty said:

Armgaard Karl Graves, with thanks Ir for the final push.

Thats him, well done, someone spread a rumour that Armgaard was Robert Graves bother because his middle name was German

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9 minutes ago, ilkley remembers said:

His name was Graves but can't remember his full name...think that he was basically a blackmailer

 

Yes - Armgaard Karl Graves, double agent, criminal and rogue. In this account of his career  

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/meet-worlds-worst-spy-rumbled-edinburgh-1520546 
 

he’s called the world’s worst spy, “more blunderball than Thunderball, more Mr Bean; than Mr Bond”. 
 

He wrote ‘The Secrets of the German War Office,’ published in the USA in 1914:

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/6948/pg6948-images.html

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2 hours ago, Uncle George said:

Yes - Armgaard Karl Graves, double agent, criminal and rogue. In this account of his career  

Yes without a doubt a rogue

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Would anyone care to hazard a guess as to the identity of this gentleman?

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11 minutes ago, Fattyowls said:

Would anyone care to hazard a guess as to the identity of this gentleman?

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Is he Vatican-based, pro-German priest Father Antonio Lapoma?

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1 minute ago, Uncle George said:

Is he Vatican-based, pro-German priest Father Antonio Lapoma?

Non mon oncle. You have the correct denomination however. His eminence has relatively little to do with his calling, indeed it could be seen as contradictory.

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12 minutes ago, Fattyowls said:

His eminence 

So he was a Cardinal?

 

EDIT: Cardinal and espionage agent Francis Gasquet?

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2 minutes ago, Uncle George said:

So he was a Cardinal?

No, he was eminent for non ecclesiastical reasons. He was an artillery officer in WW1 but that is not where his fame lies.

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