David Ridgus Posted 2 November , 2020 Share Posted 2 November , 2020 No, he was a happy accident, so I'm fine with a quick identification. I feared the wrath of the Mods for my off topic family history so quickly googled 'Cholsey in the Great War' in the unconvincing hope of someone suitable popping up and being amazed that someone as interesting and memorable as this chap having decided to spend the second half of the war sequestered in Berkshire. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 2 November , 2020 Share Posted 2 November , 2020 Good find. Most of my better finds have been happy accidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 2 November , 2020 Share Posted 2 November , 2020 48 minutes ago, David Ridgus said: Let me preempt number 1272 - No I have no idea why they meekly accepted this change of name and the ensuing agonies of correcting interlocutors that have bedevilled us for the last 150 years David 'No its R - I - D - G - U - S' You could’ve changed the spelling - you will recall that Louis Spears changed the spelling of his name in 1918. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 2 November , 2020 Share Posted 2 November , 2020 Who'd have thought it; I obviously knew the name but couldn't put a face to it. I learned those lines at school but still can't exactly place Nineveh, and many of us have walked in his footsteps. Pete. P.S. Although I was sure that he wasn't a forebear of Jamie Vardy I'm somehow relieved to see it confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ridgus Posted 2 November , 2020 Share Posted 2 November , 2020 47 minutes ago, Uncle George said: You could’ve changed the spelling - you will recall that Louis Spears changed the spelling of his name in 1918. Weirdly enough that had never occurred to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ridgus Posted 2 November , 2020 Share Posted 2 November , 2020 Oh and just to tidy up the loose ends, as Pete and NF had recognised, the Vardy doppelgänger was John Masefield, who returned from his stint as a medical orderly on the Western Front to move his family to Cholsey. Interesting that the poet of the sea and distant horizons chose to live in a place about as far from the sea as you can get in this country and where the inhabitants looked on Hungerford as a distant horizon David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 2 November , 2020 Share Posted 2 November , 2020 11 minutes ago, David Ridgus said: where the inhabitants looked on Hungerford as a distant horizon Some of us from Newbury still do😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 2 November , 2020 Share Posted 2 November , 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, David Ridgus said: a place about as far from the sea as you can get in this country The inhabitants of Meriden to the south of Plumb Acres may take issue with you over that assertion. On Masefield I have read quotes from The Old Front Line but not the full book. There is a link to a decent chunk of it in the Masefield entry in the extensive library, and Pen and Sword have a version with a foreword by some chap called Middlebrook. I wonder if a walking tour might be in order when we emerge onto the sunlit uplands 12 minutes ago, Knotty said: Some of us from Newbury still do You are what used to be called a card Mr K. I'm off to look at various on-line maps for Nineveh, I'll check out where Hungerford is while I'm in there. I don't think they are close. Pete. Edited 2 November , 2020 by Fattyowls spelling outrage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 3 November , 2020 Share Posted 3 November , 2020 9 hours ago, Fattyowls said: The inhabitants of Meriden to the south of Plumb Acres may take issue with you over that assertion. Pete. Seeing as we were discussing Masefield, I'll allow a little poetic license 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Hall Posted 3 November , 2020 Share Posted 3 November , 2020 Sorry all, I simply couldn’t pass this one by. He has an enduringly famous and loved namesake. WIT? GH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 3 November , 2020 Share Posted 3 November , 2020 16 minutes ago, Gunner Hall said: Sorry all, I simply couldn’t pass this one by. He has an enduringly famous and loved namesake. WIT? GH Are you sure he isn’t Salvadore Dali? (Seen here on Britannica): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Hall Posted 3 November , 2020 Share Posted 3 November , 2020 Sorry, UG, Not Salvador, In the picture, he’s sampling honey. He served overseas with the East Surrey Regiment and the Royal Air Force. Whoops, should have credited Getty Images for the photo - and the one coming up..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 3 November , 2020 Share Posted 3 November , 2020 6 minutes ago, Gunner Hall said: Sorry, UG, Not Salvador, In the picture, he’s sampling honey. He served overseas with the East Surrey Regiment and the Royal Air Force. Whoops, should have credited Getty Images for the photo - and the one coming up..... Mute point, but RAF or RFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Hall Posted 3 November , 2020 Share Posted 3 November , 2020 Good point. my source says Captain in the East Surrey, Seconded to the RFC then to RAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 3 November , 2020 Share Posted 3 November , 2020 16 minutes ago, Gunner Hall said: Good point. my source says Captain in the East Surrey, Seconded to the RFC then to RAF. I've been looking through the Ww1 RAF service records, and found someone who served with the RAF in 1918, a James Mason? Can't make out which unit he served in before being transferred though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Hall Posted 3 November , 2020 Share Posted 3 November , 2020 (edited) Sorry, not James Mason. He was more of a Skinner than a Mason.... This is him with some other bloke, its not clear where he's hiding his crystal mace. Edited 3 November , 2020 by Gunner Hall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 3 November , 2020 Share Posted 3 November , 2020 That is Sir Rupert de la Bere, Lord Mayor of London in 1952-53, and the photo shows him at the Coronation. His robe is one worn only on such occasions. The one on the left may be Monty - the page is carrying a viscount's coronet. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Hall Posted 3 November , 2020 Share Posted 3 November , 2020 Well done Ron, Sir Rupert De La Bere it is. As a member of the Worshipful Company of Skinners, he was the Lord Mayor of London in Coronation Year. Part of his duties at that coronation was to carry the Crystal Mace (given to the city by good King Harry 5, as thanks for putting up the money to beat the Frogs at Harfleur and Agincourt.) You've spared me having to use a clue about that dreadful "We all stand together, AKA The Frog Chorus" GH. It was Monty by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 3 November , 2020 Share Posted 3 November , 2020 2 hours ago, Gunner Hall said: Sorry, UG, Not Salvador, In the picture, he’s sampling honey. Rupert Bere. Good one G.H. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Hall Posted 3 November , 2020 Share Posted 3 November , 2020 Yes, I trawled him up tying to find the person who subsequently was revealed as Frederick Palmer VC - and couldn't believe my eyes. Rupert De La Bere, indeed. The poor old s*d, Just have to find Micky Da Mouse now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 3 November , 2020 Share Posted 3 November , 2020 10 minutes ago, Gunner Hall said: Yes, I trawled him up tying to find the person who subsequently was revealed as Frederick Palmer VC - and couldn't believe my eyes. Rupert De La Bere, indeed. The poor old s*d, Just have to find Micky Da Mouse now! As David and I were saying yesterday, all the best finds tend to be happy accidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ridgus Posted 3 November , 2020 Share Posted 3 November , 2020 1 hour ago, Ron Clifton said: That is Sir Rupert de la Bere, Lord Mayor of London in 1952-53, and the photo shows him at the Coronation. His robe is one worn only on such occasions. Blimey. I bet no one would have imagined it would be hanging in the wardrobe for the next 70 odd years. I hope it hasn’t got moth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Hall Posted 3 November , 2020 Share Posted 3 November , 2020 3 minutes ago, David Ridgus said: Blimey. I bet no one would have imagined it would be hanging in the wardrobe for the next 70 odd years. I hope it hasn’t got moth Traditionally, the reciepient got to keep it.. Someone will have to shell out for another set for the next coronation. I expect it came in handy for fancy dress parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 3 November , 2020 Share Posted 3 November , 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Gunner Hall said: Yes, I trawled him up tying to find the person who subsequently was revealed as Frederick Palmer VC - and couldn't believe my eyes. Rupert De La Bere, indeed. The poor old s*d, Just have to find Micky Da Mouse now! So, who are these ? ? ? EDIT: all images from Wikipedia. Edited 3 November , 2020 by Uncle George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 3 November , 2020 Share Posted 3 November , 2020 6 minutes ago, Uncle George said: So, who are these ? ? ? Wilson,Kepple and Betty- before they sharpened their act a bit? Your guess at to who is Betty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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