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Who is This ? ? ?


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1 hour ago, Marilyne said:

So he was an offier turned politician… still working for the War office, if Henry Wilson was involved???

More clues???

 

M.

He turned politician after leaving the War Office.

1 hour ago, Uncle George said:

Is it to do with the demobilisation scheme?

Indirectly, although that scheme is very relevant to what he was doing.

 

Ron

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I'm afraid not, UG. Morton's connection with Churchill was closer, and later, than that of my man.

 

Ron

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He looks a little like Philip Cunliffe-Lister. C-L was awarded the MC, served in the Ministry of National Service and became a Cabinet member. But he was a lawyer, not a Civil Servant ...

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Not him either, UG.

 

After he left the Army, he worked in a ministry, but not strictly as a civil servant.

 

Ron

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Hi Ron
I hope this is the chap, Ronald Gorell Barnes who after the war founded the Army Education Corps, he was also a distinguished cricketer in his time, as well as a newspaper editor, a poet and writer (link below) and a hereditary peer, 3rd Baron Gorell. 
The clip is of him reflecting on the dramatic changes in the world.

 

 

http://forgottenpoetsofww1.blogspot.com/2018/12/ronald-gorell-barnes-3rd-baron-gorell.html

That one had me going for quite some time well played .

 

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Well done, Knotty! It is indeed Lord Gorell.

 

His papers relating to the foundation of the Royal Army Educational Corps, edited by Jim Beach, are this year's offering from the Army Records Society. For his efforts he was made an OBE, later promoted to CBE, but as a hereditary peer he had no need of a knighthood.

 

Among his non-military and non-educational interests was that he was at one time the President of the National Council for the Unmarried Mother and Her Child, and the co-President (with Agatha Christie) of the Detection Club.

 

Ron

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Any ideas who this is???

Shared a common distinction with King George V.

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1 minute ago, Knotty said:

Grey Beard?

Close! 

He also had connections with Wales and Canada.

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Just now, michaeldr said:

He looks like an actor in a pose

Could the common distinction be a change of name from one too Germanic sounding?

Good guess, but Knotty is closer to the truth. 

He wasn't an actor, but an artist of sorts.

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1 hour ago, Knotty said:

I said it as a bloody joke, now you have got me intrigued 

All will be revealed.

He was the brother of a painter.

His war service included being sent home in disgrace, narrowly avoiding court martial due to intervention from a well known public figure.

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His surname was a christian name. 

His christian name was a Roman statesman. 

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Augustus John?

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2 minutes ago, Gunner Hall said:

Augustus John?

Exactly. Well played.

King George and him were the only allied officers allowed to sport a beard.

All revealed here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus_John

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Thank you NF,  the Roman Christian name clinched it. He's romoured to have had over  100 children.  Astonishing  that he found time to paint. 

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3 minutes ago, Knotty said:

What is this officers relationship with Joan of Arc

 

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Forbidden?😊

Just joking of course. 

Is it something to do with religion?

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Something to do with a dream possibly on the battlefield?  Sorry unsure if should be jumping in but am quite unwell at the mo,  wide awake all night and this thread is always so interesting! 

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3 minutes ago, Alisonmallen62 said:

Something to do with a dream possibly on the battlefield?  Sorry unsure if should be jumping in but am quite unwell at the mo,  wide awake all night and this thread is always so interesting! 

Of course you should be jumping in. Go for it. 👍

Hope you're feeling better soon. 

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Thank you - getting through pneumonia which is a pain.  I dnt know but I thought this may have been either a rumour or imagined story about an officer who dreamt J of A had appeared to him a bit like the angel of mons? I think he had a sword he thought was hers?  Dnt know where else to go with it now though lol.

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Hi both

Sorry to say that it is nothing to do with religion or any form of dream or vision

NF you should know by now that if I give a clue to start with it will be fairly obtuse😁

Alison as NF say just jump in, permission is not required😂, and get well soon.

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