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museumtom
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Than you Craig, George and Charlie. The first one to tie it all together is the Folder 3 link. That has his address. That's a great step forward, and the extra from Charlies and Craig will take me a bit of time to pull together, thanks guys!

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charlie962
5 minutes ago, George Rayner said:

no WFA sub

George, Fold3 is still free until close of today. Quick quick!

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George Rayner

Yes that's how I knew he was the man-just couldn't look at Craig's reference to compare whether it was the same one we were both looking at

 

George

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museumtom

Thanks George and Craig, I did manage to get a look at Folder 3, happy days. The critical sheet still eludes us though. Having said all that I am cross eyed after all that. I even called Bob Craig in a PM. Time to unwind the ould eyes. Now then, where's me dog?

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museumtom

Thank you very much Mark it is confusing, but I sent the relevant one to Terry, fingers crossed.

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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ss002d6252
19 minutes ago, museumtom said:

This Clerk in the Royal Engineers has lots of records on FMP under No 13559, Frederick North. Most of the records are pre war with little on WW1 but it does say he was discharged unfit and the critical sheet is missing. Could someone please have a quick look in another site to see if the critical sheet is there please?

Here are the records on FMP but the vital sheet is not in there.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM/WO363-4/007298974/00344&parentid=GBM/WO363-4/7298974/20/344

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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F.
Last name North
Service number 13559
Rank Sapper
Badge number 22972
Enlistment date 22-Jan-1904
Discharge date 27-Mar-1916
Regiment/unit Royal Engineers R.T.D.
Cause of discharge 392 (xvi) Sickness
Whether served overseas Yes
Badge date of issue 17-Feb-1917
Record set Silver War Badge Roll 1914-1920
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from England, Great Britain

 

He was discharged as no longer physically fit
(oddly enough he seems to have lived for a while in the same street my mother lived in)

 

Craig

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museumtom

There you go!!

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Mark1959

There are lots of papers for 13559 North on ancestry here. Cannot find on FMP yet.

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museumtom

Thanks Mark, I used your number but not suitable hits on FMP yet.

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Mark1959

Here we go. 

Some interesting letters.

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museumtom

Bingo!! Than you Mark!

Kind regards.

Tom.

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museumtom

Can anyone help with this please? I have his SWB but no records and the critical sheet. 

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_fn=&_ln=&_no=119439&_crp=&_ttl=&discoveryCustomSearch=true&_cr1=WO+372&_dt=M&_col=200&_hb=tna

Michael
Last name Payne
Service number 119439
Rank Private
Badge number B210034
Enlistment date 07-Apr-1915
Discharge date 16-May-1919
Regiment/unit Labour Corps: L.C. ex R.W.F.
Cause of discharge Wound 392 xvi Army Order 29/1919
Badge date of issue 16-Jun-1919
Record set Silver War Badge Roll 1914-1920
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from

England, Great Britain

 

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Mark1959
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WFA Card. Death 25-7-19 - no helpful detail. Address in Limerick. Effects record says death on 26/7. No effects distributed.

SWB card has him as ex-RWF.

Medal roll for BW and VM says 6066 RMF. No Star

The SWB roll actually says discharged due to wound. What was the cause of death?. That shows RWF as well.

Struggling to find anything else

 

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

Nothing on Ancestry Pension Records.

His MIC is here:

MIC

 

Labour Corps, formerly Royal Welsh Fusiliers?

I wonder when he enlisted there. I guess the number 119439 is the RWF number if that's who hewas with when he first  entered  a theatre of war?

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museumtom

Thansk mark and Dyfed. He died from neurasthenia trombosis of misenteric veins operation 5 days certified.

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little bob

Soldiers Effects.    119439 Labour Corps Michael Payne  discharged 16/5/1919. Died 26 July 1919.

 

Bob

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museumtom

Good man Bob, thank you.

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George Rayner
museumtom

Thank you George a great find!

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museumtom
Posted (edited)

Another good find George, thank you very much for that. Now if we could find some next of kin or birth details we would be motoring!

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charlie962
45 minutes ago, museumtom said:

Are these the same man?

Yes, I should think so. 

John Peterson son of John James Peterson of 30 Wellesley Rd Liverpool, was Lt Devonshire Regt and Hon Lt Labour Corps- SWB Card here and MIC here (but note error on death year on MIC)

Charlie

 

Baptism 1913 ! courtesy findmypast. His father was a Mersey Pilot. John  was born 28/4/1897 thus 22 at death

217507935_GWFPetersonJBapt.JPG.5f85f9bcfadabee52a16d385cf1aff6a.JPG

 

 

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museumtom

Brilliant find Charlie, thank you very much indeed I know how difficult these officers are to find. I was hoping that there was a connection to the place where he died though. 

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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George Rayner

Isn't address on CWGC also Welleseley Road, Liverpool so already remembered?

 

George

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