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George Rayner
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If not could this be him on Ancestry with a Fold3 pension reference?

Name: Edward O'Keefe
Gender: Male
Rank: Pte
Birth Date: 1888
Residence Place: Newcastle
Military Service Region: Northern, England
Discharge Date: 29 Jan 1919
Service Number: 13035
Regiment: Northbd Fus.
Title: Pension Record Cards
Description: Pension Record Ledger

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61588&h=1295250&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Yiy19957&_phstart=successSource

Clearly not as there is too much difference in age!

George

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Sunshine induced stupidity!

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George Rayner

Sorry-this looks a more likely candidate as O'Keefe

First Name:
Edward
Surname:
O'Keefe
Incident Details:
Sickness
Information:
Particulars furnished: ShrewsburySurvived Active Service. 21/04/1917. Badge and Certificate issued: ShrewsburySurvived Active Service. 08/05/1917.
Rank:
Private
Service Number:
12864
Service From Date:
18/12/1915
Service To Date:
26/04/1917
Silver War Badge Number:
173309
War Office Ref. Number:
J.560
Reason for Discharge:
Paragraph 392 King's Regulations (xvi) No longer physically fit for war service.

on FWR.

https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/records/10558194/private-edward-okeefe-british-army-welsh-regiment/

 

George

 

 

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museumtom
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Fantastic piece of research Mark!! The R.A.F. who would have thought it?

I am still mulling thought it.

 

Thanks George, I am mulling through this also......I'm going to be busy.....I had not hits on O'Keefe yet, but all I can find with your number is the SWB readout, is there more please?

 

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museumtom

Hmmmm, nothing concrete on O'Keefe yet george, but great suggestions! Thank you.

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museumtom
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Mark old son, everything looks great, except the age. Comparing the Census with the death cert indicates there is another Thomas Veldon from Ballyhaunis out there somewhere that served. Would I be right do you reckon?

The problem is even his occupation tallys with the Census.

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George Rayner
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Tom

No nothing on O'Keefe other than confusion.

 

As to Veldon his file is on Fold3 but I cant access it

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61400&h=233505&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Yiy19992&_phstart=successSource

or this ref on FWR

Primary Unit:
Royal Air Force
Archive Reference:
AIR 78 162 1
 
Don't know if this is the same man-just appeared on search! Ancestry
Fold3 of course-please could someone check him.
Name: Thomas Veldon
Gender: Male
Military Service Region: Ireland, Ireland
Title: Pension Record Cards
Description: Pension Record Ledger
Reference Number: 13/AF/470
 
George
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museumtom

Fingers crossed things will all come together.

Having said all that I will be spending the next three days in Camdeh Fort Meager, so the internet may not be very strong underground. If you specift what photographs you would like from Camden just let me know.

Have a safe weekend lads and lasssies!

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museumtom
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Oops I just noticed in his census sheet he is Thomas Francis and on his RAF sheet it is Thomas Joseph, could we have the wrong man? Thomas Francis Veldon is the only one who had a father named Patrick. In the 1901 and 1911 Census he is listed as Patrick E. Whereas Thomas is listed as Thomas J, and Thomas Francis. So maybe it was a thing with them changing specifics.

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museumtom

So taking all these anomalies into consideration I accept it is the same man. Thanks to everyone for all your help, for which I am very much in your debt.

 Kind regards.

 Tom.

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museumtom
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Before I head for Cork in a few hours I am hoping I can nail down this soldier. He died of Malaria in Cork, and the critical sheet is missing. His records are on FMP here;

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM/WO363-4/007309512/00071&parentid=GBM/WO363-4/7309512/5/71

 

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM/WO363-4/007309512/00953&parentid=GBM/WO363-4/7309512/47/953

Can you help finding the critical sheet please?

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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Mark1959
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Veldon The WFA card list the RAF man's mother as Annie of Main St. Ballyhaunis. born 1857. The Annie in 1911 census is 53. Spot on. The WFA card gives DoD as 17/7/19 - cause Pulm TB. Not sure there is much doubt despite the name changes. Also shows W/S - whilst serving. 

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55 minutes ago, museumtom said:

Before I head for Cork in a few hours I am hoping I can nail down this soldier. He died of Malaria in Cork, and the critical sheet is missing. His records are on FMP here;

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM/WO363-4/007309512/00071&parentid=GBM/WO363-4/7309512/5/71

 

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM/WO363-4/007309512/00953&parentid=GBM/WO363-4/7309512/47/953

Can you help finding the critical sheet please?

Kind regards.

 Tom.

 

DoD 23/11/18. There are some more docs relating to his discharge on Ancestry. 

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=1114&h=178789&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=1219

Indexed under RMF number

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Walsh: The ancestry docs contain the attributable statement: "to climate and ordinary military service". Trying to find on FMP for you

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museumtom

Thank you Mark, Anna fits in perfectly. So we must have the right man. H could have been named Thomas Joseph Francis, but that would be purely speculative. The age is mad, surely a 27 year old man would not look 37?

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Mark1959

Walsh - served in Boer War, India etc. 1896-1908 service. Salonika in GW

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museumtom

Thanks Mark!! Any sign of the critical sheet please?

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Mark1959

See PM

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

Sorry,

Haven't been able to pay as much attention to this thread i the last week or so.

Who is Walsh?

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Mark1959

See post #2041

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museumtom

I just received information from the critical sheet kindly sent by Mark which allows us to send Thomas forward.  Bualadh Bas!! (a round of applause) to you Mark! Thanks for all your vital finds.

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museumtom

He made it through!! well done to Mark and all concerned.

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr
2 hours ago, Mark1959 said:

See post #2041

Ah. OK. FMP 

I don't have access to it.

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museumtom

Thank you for looking Dyfed!

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museumtom
Posted (edited)

Sorry I am not online this weekend guys and gals. I am in Camden Fort Meagher, happy days.

See you tommottow!

DJI_0016.jpg

Look what I found...

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

Just blown the pic up on my computer screen. Being red/ green colourblind, couldn't see the red petals on the small screen.

Can see them now. 

Very nice.

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