ss002d6252 Posted 22 May , 2019 Share Posted 22 May , 2019 2 minutes ago, Mark1959 said: There is a WFA Ledger card for Jerome Collins of Clonakiety died 3/3/19 of Phithisis. 4343 5th Lancers Claim from his mother, Minnie Fitzpatrick Looking... This looks the family in 1911- http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Clonakilty_Urban/School_Street/379468/ Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 22 May , 2019 Share Posted 22 May , 2019 (edited) There is a family tree on ancestry with a pic. Gives following detail Jeremiah Jerome Jehr Collins 1894–1919 BIRTH 13 AUG 1894 • Barrack Hill, Clonakilty, Co Cork, Ireland DEATH 3 MAR 1919 • Upper Square, Clonakilty, Co Cork, Ireland Upper Square is the address given by his mother on the WFA card They have an MIC for another man in the tree. NB it is 4373 Edited 22 May , 2019 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 22 May , 2019 Share Posted 22 May , 2019 His SWB is under Jeremiah https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM/SILVERWAR/BADGES/2702 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 22 May , 2019 Author Share Posted 22 May , 2019 Great research Craig and Mark, thank you very much indeed. I am hoping that there is a record somewhere for Jeremiah, 4343 (Thanks Mark!), but try as I might I cannot find one on FMP. Craig, I have stored the Census details to see if this whole thing pans out. I would really hate to miss him. Kind regards. Tom. I cannot even find a MIC for 4343 Collins...yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 22 May , 2019 Share Posted 22 May , 2019 See my edit it is 4373 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 22 May , 2019 Author Share Posted 22 May , 2019 Thanks Mark, I love the MIC, if we can find the critical page he should qualify, finger crossed. I could not even find his MIC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 22 May , 2019 Share Posted 22 May , 2019 (edited) Also under Jeremiah https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM/MCI/0905416 1914 Star trio. Entered theatre 15/8/14 Edited 22 May , 2019 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 22 May , 2019 Author Share Posted 22 May , 2019 Excellent Mark, thank you very much, all we are missing now is the critical page, so near and yet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 22 May , 2019 Share Posted 22 May , 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mark1959 said: Been looking.. trying to trace possible sister The Catherine in Anglesborough in 1911 appears to have been born 15/9/1878 (transcribed record on ancestry). So she was actually 32 at the census not 34. Father Denis, mother Margaret - mother nee Hogan. Does not get us very far. This casualty, 8106 Andrew Joyce, RMF, lived in Wigan, but his parents, Patrick and Catherine, lived at 17 Francis Street, Limerick - https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/692792/joyce,-andrew/ Edited 22 May , 2019 by IPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 22 May , 2019 Author Share Posted 22 May , 2019 It took a while IPT but I now know what you are saying. Francis Street, Limerick was full of tenements. https://www.memorylanelimerick.com/p802350600/h37E70563#h37e70563 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 23 May , 2019 Share Posted 23 May , 2019 Been chasing Jeremiah and cannot find anything else to add to what is already known. Cause of discharge XVI is 'unfit' but that won't be enough I guess. The discharge/attestation papers seem to be nowhere to be found. Sorry George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 23 May , 2019 Share Posted 23 May , 2019 I think this is your man... Name: John Conway Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1869 Birth Place: Birr, Kings Enlistment Age: 18 Document Year: 1887 Regimental Number: 2758 Other Regimental Numbers: 13211 Regiment Name: Connaught Rangers Number of Images: 11 Form Title: Short Service Attestation on Ancestry. But nothing to say why he was discharged-but URL for others to follow https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1219/miuk1914g_131312-01085?pid=395549&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1219%26h%3D395549%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DYiy19728%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Yiy19728&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.160878781.1878430004.1558446494-1533967676.1499237068 ...and go both ways as his newest records are left, oldest right! I think!!! George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 23 May , 2019 Author Share Posted 23 May , 2019 Thanks George, I appreciate it. I am hoping that the critical sheet can be found. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 23 May , 2019 Share Posted 23 May , 2019 Looks very similar to the FMP version. No references to what was wrong at all other than no heavy lifting in the garden! George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 23 May , 2019 Author Share Posted 23 May , 2019 Feck! It was worth a shot. Thanks George! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 23 May , 2019 Author Share Posted 23 May , 2019 Would this one be easier please? Thomas Last name Cotter Service number G/598 Rank Rifleman Badge number 142066 Enlistment date 08-Oct-1915 Discharge date 06-Mar-1917 Regiment/unit R. Ir. Rifles Cause of discharge Sickness 392. xvi. Whether served overseas Yes Badge date of issue 06-Mar-1917 Record set Silver War Badge Roll 1914-1920 Category Military, armed forces & conflict Subcategory First World War Collections from England, Great Britain There are burnt records without the critical sheet on FMP. Can you help please? Perhaps in his pension records? Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 23 May , 2019 Author Share Posted 23 May , 2019 Bingo, got it! Cotters info that is. Thanks anyway folks. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 23 May , 2019 Share Posted 23 May , 2019 No joy with this one Tom. There's a service record for a John Crean of Cork 7763 RMF, discharged 1919, dysentry and bad teeth. Maybe a relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 23 May , 2019 Share Posted 23 May , 2019 Unfortunately I can find nothing further on Collins. Pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 23 May , 2019 Author Share Posted 23 May , 2019 Thanks for trying anyway Mark. They seem to be getting harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little bob Posted 23 May , 2019 Share Posted 23 May , 2019 Not your man but the only Tom Crean I know of, sailed with Sir Ernest Shackleton in an open boat from Elephant Island to South Georgia. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 23 May , 2019 Author Share Posted 23 May , 2019 I was wondering when someone would spot that Bob! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 23 May , 2019 Share Posted 23 May , 2019 How about this one then-know it's Crane but death is ok Name: Thomas Crane Gender: Male Rank: Pte Military Service Region: Ireland, Ireland Death Date: 25 Oct 1919 Service Number: 287303 Regiment: R.A. Force Title: Pension Record Cards Description: Pension Record Ledger Reference Number: 13/D/1222 Ancestry; Fold3 George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 23 May , 2019 Share Posted 23 May , 2019 36 minutes ago, George Rayner said: How about this one then-know it's Crane but death is ok Name: Thomas Crane Gender: Male Rank: Pte Military Service Region: Ireland, Ireland Death Date: 25 Oct 1919 Service Number: 287303 Regiment: R.A. Force Title: Pension Record Cards Description: Pension Record Ledger Reference Number: 13/D/1222 Ancestry; Fold3 George This man enlisted 17 Aug 18 - at 31 9/12 so the age would be out (not that rules things out). EDIT: Pension Ledger address matches the death cert so it must the same man. Discharged with inflammation of the stomach - attributable. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 23 May , 2019 Share Posted 23 May , 2019 No pension record for Crean/Crane on Ancestry. When was he discharged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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