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2 minutes ago, Mark1959 said:

There is a WFA Ledger card for Jerome Collins of Clonakiety died 3/3/19 of Phithisis.

4343 5th Lancers

Claim from his mother, Minnie Fitzpatrick

Looking...

 

This looks the family in 1911- http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Clonakilty_Urban/School_Street/379468/


Craig

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Mark1959
Posted (edited)

There is a family tree on ancestry with a pic. Gives following detail

Jeremiah Jerome Jehr Collins

1894–1919

BIRTH 13 AUG 1894 • Barrack Hill, Clonakilty, Co Cork, Ireland

DEATH 3 MAR 1919 • Upper Square, Clonakilty, Co Cork, Ireland

Upper Square is the address given by his mother on the WFA card

They have an MIC for another man in the tree.

NB it is 4373

Edited by Mark1959

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museumtom

Great research Craig and Mark, thank you very much indeed. I am hoping that there is a record somewhere for Jeremiah, 4343 (Thanks Mark!), but try as I might I cannot find one on FMP.

Craig, I have stored the Census details to see if this whole thing pans out. I would really hate to miss him.

Kind regards.

Tom.

I cannot even find a MIC for 4343 Collins...yet!

 

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Mark1959

See my edit it is 4373

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museumtom

Thanks Mark, I love the MIC, if we can find the critical page he should qualify, finger crossed. I could not even find his MIC.

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museumtom

Excellent Mark, thank you very much, all we are missing now is the critical page, so near and yet....

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Mark1959 said:

Been looking.. trying to trace possible sister

The Catherine in Anglesborough in 1911 appears to have been born 15/9/1878 (transcribed record on ancestry).  So she was actually 32 at the census not 34. Father Denis, mother Margaret - mother nee Hogan. Does not get us very far. 

 

This casualty, 8106 Andrew Joyce, RMF, lived in Wigan, but his parents, Patrick and Catherine, lived at 17 Francis Street, Limerick - https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/692792/joyce,-andrew/

 

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George Rayner

Been chasing Jeremiah and cannot find anything else to add to what is already known. Cause of discharge XVI is 'unfit' but that won't be enough I guess. The discharge/attestation papers seem to be nowhere to be found. Sorry

 

George

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George Rayner

I think this is your man...

Name: John Conway
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1869
Birth Place: Birr, Kings
Enlistment Age: 18
Document Year: 1887
Regimental Number: 2758
Other Regimental Numbers: 13211
Regiment Name: Connaught Rangers
Number of Images: 11
Form Title:

Short Service Attestation

 

on Ancestry. But nothing to say why he was discharged-but URL for others to follow

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1219/miuk1914g_131312-01085?pid=395549&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1219%26h%3D395549%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DYiy19728%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Yiy19728&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.160878781.1878430004.1558446494-1533967676.1499237068

 

...and go both ways as his newest records are left, oldest right! I think!!!

 

George

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museumtom

Thanks George, I appreciate it. I am hoping that the critical sheet can be found.

Kind regards.

Tom.

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George Rayner

Looks very similar to the FMP version. No references to what was wrong at all other than no heavy lifting in the garden!

 

George

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museumtom

Feck! It was worth a shot. Thanks George!

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museumtom

Would this one be easier please?

 

Thomas
Last name Cotter
Service number G/598
Rank Rifleman
Badge number 142066
Enlistment date 08-Oct-1915
Discharge date 06-Mar-1917
Regiment/unit R. Ir. Rifles
Cause of discharge Sickness 392. xvi.
Whether served overseas Yes
Badge date of issue 06-Mar-1917
Record set Silver War Badge Roll 1914-1920
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from

England, Great Britain

 

 

There are burnt records without the critical sheet on FMP. Can you help please? Perhaps in his pension records?

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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museumtom

Bingo, got it! Cotters info that is. Thanks anyway folks.

Kind regards.

 Tom.

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

No joy with this one Tom.

There's a service record for a John Crean of Cork 7763 RMF, discharged 1919, dysentry and bad teeth.

Maybe a relative.

 

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Mark1959

Unfortunately I can find nothing further on Collins. Pity.

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museumtom

Thanks for trying anyway Mark. They seem to be getting harder.

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little bob

Not your man but the only Tom Crean I know of, sailed with Sir Ernest Shackleton in an open boat from Elephant Island to South Georgia.

 

Bob

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museumtom

I was wondering when someone would spot that Bob!

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George Rayner

How about this one then-know it's Crane but death is ok

Name: Thomas Crane
Gender: Male
Rank: Pte
Military Service Region: Ireland, Ireland
Death Date: 25 Oct 1919
Service Number: 287303
Regiment: R.A. Force
Title: Pension Record Cards
Description: Pension Record Ledger
Reference Number:

13/D/1222

 

Ancestry; Fold3

 

George

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36 minutes ago, George Rayner said:

How about this one then-know it's Crane but death is ok

Name: Thomas Crane
Gender: Male
Rank: Pte
Military Service Region: Ireland, Ireland
Death Date: 25 Oct 1919
Service Number: 287303
Regiment: R.A. Force
Title: Pension Record Cards
Description: Pension Record Ledger
Reference Number:

13/D/1222

 

Ancestry; Fold3

 

George

 

This man enlisted 17 Aug 18 - at 31 9/12 so the age would be out (not that rules things out).

 

EDIT:

Pension Ledger address matches the death cert so it must the same man.

Discharged with inflammation of the stomach - attributable.

 

Craig

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

No pension record for Crean/Crane on Ancestry.

When was he discharged?

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