Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 4 June , 2019 Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Nothing extra in Ancestry Pension records- only 2 sheets, stating discharge in Feb 1916 as no longer fit for service, but no medical details at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 4 June , 2019 Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Edgar Allum #41875 RFA 19th Battery from Somerset; daughter Olive, wife Bridget buried in Baghdad, died 1917 On Ancestry George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 4 June , 2019 Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Could Joseph McLoughlin be 3/6420 or 70 R In Fus discharge due to false statement of age on enlistment from Ancestry https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1114/miuk1914a_085463-01934?pid=519141&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1114%26h%3D519141%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DYiy20066%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Yiy20066&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.23367347.842320653.1559651743-1533967676.1499237068#?imageId=miuk1914a_085463-01934 George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 4 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Thank you Dyfed, its a pity there are no medical details, so near and yet so far. Thank you George, I dont think it could be McLoughlin as the ages are way out, but thank you for trying, and I did not know that Edgar Allum's wife was buried in baghdad-'wife Bridget buried in Baghdad, died 1917' Gotcha!! Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 4 June , 2019 Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Pedant section available on Skindles!! George (I ad noticed and decided not to edit!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 4 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Go on ya good thing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 4 June , 2019 Share Posted 4 June , 2019 McLoughlin on Ancestry Name: Joseph McLoughlin Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1898 Birth Place: L'derry, L'derry Age: 18 Document Year: 1916 Regimental Number: 6420 Regiment Name: 3 Royal In Fusiliers Form Title: Army Reserve (Special Reservists) Attestation Number of Images: 6 George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 4 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Thanks George, re-checking.... According to FMP he was 22 when he enlisted in 1906. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 4 June , 2019 Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Death certificate says died aged 22 in 1920? George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 4 June , 2019 Share Posted 4 June , 2019 (edited) Major Francis Spencer Collin RE Medal roll shows died 17/3/1920 Born Calcutta 5/8/1885. Buried East Grinstead https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/117520909/francis-spencer-collin 1914Star and Clasp trio. Indian Army originally. Address on MIC is given as Curragh Camp and then Eaast Grinstead and notes his death. His application for his clasp arrived day after he died. Certainly still serving as late as 4/6/18 at Royal Military College Edited 4 June , 2019 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 4 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Yes George he was 22 in 1920, when he enlisted in 1906 he was also 22. Thank you Mark, excellent find. We can now move along to the next mystery, Thanks again guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 4 June , 2019 Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Gosh that's weird-signing up at 8 years old! George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 4 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Good man George. They don't mess about these youngsters. https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f007269627%2f00240&parentid=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f7269627%2f20%2f238 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 4 June , 2019 Share Posted 4 June , 2019 https://www.cairogang.com/soldiers-killed/collin/f-collin.html Worth reading https://www.cairogang.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 4 June , 2019 Share Posted 4 June , 2019 7 minutes ago, museumtom said: Good man George. They don't mess about these youngsters. https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f007269627%2f00240&parentid=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f7269627%2f20%2f238 Two different men I think between FMP and Ancestry - birth places are different as is the forename . It's just coincidence they both held the number #6420 at some point. George's man seems to be more likely the right one. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 4 June , 2019 Share Posted 4 June , 2019 (edited) For Collin see Note bottom post - worth a PM to Corisande? He is the source of the cairogang site. https://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/16707 for memorial window Edited 4 June , 2019 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 4 June , 2019 Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Here on FMP-McLoughlin- https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FWO363-4%2F007280623%2F01936&parentid=GBM%2FWO363-4%2F7280623%2F218%2F1936 George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 4 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Y'know since we were on PM I was searching for that page extremely unsuccessfully. Thanks George! Now we can get moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 4 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Now I understand what you were saying George, but this man was a serving soldier. So I would need a record that shows that. The one you posted was discharged, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 4 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Nice find Mark, thank you kindly and well spotted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 4 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 4 June , 2019 I do apologise, I should have added that Laurence Ryans death was registered in Limerick. Thanks you to Bob for pointing it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 4 June , 2019 Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Sorry Tom hadn't picked up that McLoughlin was still serving George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 4 June , 2019 Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Back to McLoughlin. On FMP in Newspapers McGANN & McGANN, 77 QUEEN STREET, DUBLIN. FATAL Private McLoughlin . M otor Transpor Service, who was injured in a iolliaion aith a delivery van at Raylough. Athlone. on Saturday, died from Ilia injuries. The shaft of the van penetrated the o hid sixeeti, and the eaz struck McLoughlin in the stoma 22 January 1920 - Dublin Evening Telegraph - Dublin, Dublin, Republic of Ireland I don't have a subscription to read Irish Newspapers but URL for results page i https://search.findmypast.co.uk/search/irish-newspapers?date=1920-01-01&date_offsetdate=1920-01-31&place=dublinutf002c dublinutf002c republic of ireland&lastname=mcloughlin&exactnames=true&exactkeywords=false George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 4 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Terrific piece of sleuthing George, I would not have thought of the papers. So he was Motorised Transport which is part of the A.S.C. There are two possibilities. M/371948 and T4-253464. Checking them now. Bummer, they did not work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 4 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 4 June , 2019 I sent on your newspaper piece and his death cert to Terry. We have to move on I think. Thanks again and well done a tasty bit of research. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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