museumtom Posted 4 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 4 July , 2022 1 hour ago, museumtom said: It is not letting me post images, here is the dc info. Aged 18, army pensioner William Daly, Boyle, a single man died from influenza at Boyle Workhouse, on 26/11/1918 Here is Daly's information. Daly William Private Connaught Rangers Church Street, Boyle County Roscommon 26/11/1918 Died after discharge at Boyle Workhouse, 26/11/1918, from influenza 10 days certified. Discharged aged 20 years 10 months, being no longer physically fit for war service at Cork, on 09/08/917 Unknown Serial No: 6065 Unit: 4th Battalion Age: 18-death cert, 14-1911 Census Born: 02/02/1896 at Boyle Enlisted: Boyle, County Roscommon on 21/12/1915. Next of Kin: A single man. Son of Thady/Timothy/Tim and Hanoria/Nora/Anne Daly, Church Street, Boyle, County Roscommon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 4 July , 2022 Share Posted 4 July , 2022 1 hour ago, museumtom said: Here is Daly's information. Daly William Private Connaught Rangers Church Street, Boyle County Roscommon 26/11/1918 Died after discharge at Boyle Workhouse, 26/11/1918, from influenza 10 days certified. Discharged aged 20 years 10 months, being no longer physically fit for war service at Cork, on 09/08/917 Unknown Serial No: 6065 Unit: 4th Battalion Age: 18-death cert, 14-1911 Census Born: 02/02/1896 at Boyle Enlisted: Boyle, County Roscommon on 21/12/1915. Next of Kin: A single man. Son of Thady/Timothy/Tim and Hanoria/Nora/Anne Daly, Church Street, Boyle, County Roscommon. Pension card for the man on the census - service number matches the above. https://www.fold3.com/image/690273379?terms=daly,william,boyle Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 4 July , 2022 Share Posted 4 July , 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, museumtom said: Daly William Private Connaught Rangers Church Street, Boyle County Roscommon 26/11/1918 Died after discharge at Boyle Workhouse, 26/11/1918, from influenza 10 days certified. Discharged aged 20 years 10 months, being no longer physically fit for war service at Cork, on 09/08/917 Unknown Serial No: 6065 William DALY, 6065, Connaught Rangers https://www.fold3.com/image/700822652?terms=daly,6065 - Chelsea Hospital card ref 78293/H [ @ss002d6252 may perhaps be able to date], File destroyed 10.1.26 Helpfully also using his father's name "Thady" = Two cross-referenced Dependant's PIC at WFA/Fold3 - both refer to William DALY [and his brother John DALY, 10540, Conn Rang.] - both cards have a printer's mark of 1924 https://www.fold3.com/image/690273379?terms=daly,10540,thady https://www.fold3.com/image/668544994?terms=daly,10540,thady Unfortunately no details on date or cause of death for William. M Edit: Craig, I note we seem to have part cross-posted. Edited 4 July , 2022 by Matlock1418 edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 4 July , 2022 Share Posted 4 July , 2022 1 minute ago, Matlock1418 said: https://www.fold3.com/image/700822652?terms=daly,6065 - Chelsea Hospital card ref 78293/H [ @ss002d6252 may perhaps be able to date], File destroyed 10.1.26 Looks to be in the 2nd week of August 1917. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 4 July , 2022 Share Posted 4 July , 2022 4 minutes ago, ss002d6252 said: Looks to be in the 2nd week of August 1917. Thanks M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 4 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 4 July , 2022 Most excellent finds thank you Craig and Matlock and that ties it all together. I just found out by cross referencing that his brother John also served with the Connaughts and went missing in action on 28/08/1914 and later assumed KIA on that date. William is listed in Johns records. I am very happy with this they all tie in together. Keep up the great work lads, very much appreciated, I would be lost without you. https://www.findmypast.co.uk/search/results?sid=100&lastname=daly&keywords=10540&keywordsplace_proximity=5&sourcecountry=great+britain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 4 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 4 July , 2022 Last chance saloon for this lad also, can you help please? Donovan Edward One of the unfindable soldiers who died after discharge. Address King Street, Fermoy, County Cork 25/08/1919 Died after discharge at his home King Street, Fermoy, County Cork from Phthisis 6 months certified. Bessie Simpson, King Street, Fermoy was present at death. Unit unknown. Age: 56. Next of Kin: A married man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 4 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 4 July , 2022 And Matthew George Douglas McManus, 12 Upper Camden Row, Dublin, soldier, aged 53 died at his home on 30/01/1919 from haemiplegia cardiac failure certified. His wife Katie McManus, 12 Upper Camden Row, Dublin was present at death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 4 July , 2022 Share Posted 4 July , 2022 (edited) Is there a chance that Edward Donovan is Edmund/Edmond? 3228 Royal Irish Regiment. Pension card says did not serve in War. Widow Kate lived in King St, Case created Oct 1919 saying he had died Looking for further evidence. Enlisted 2/6/1880 from Royal Hosp list in which case. Served until 1903. https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo97%2f4711%2f060%2f002&parentid=gbm%2fwo97%2f4711%2f576160 are his docs http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Fermoy_Urban/King_Street/413097/ May be him but showing as Edward Family tree on ancestry. This has him dying on 25/8/19 and being buried on 27/8/1919 without documentary backup. The tree has his first wife dying in 1909 and re-married a Catherine Lee in 1911. Edited 4 July , 2022 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 4 July , 2022 Share Posted 4 July , 2022 (edited) McManus https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC%2F1901%2F0716-0718%2F0502&parentid=GBC%2F1901%2F0003096641 1901 Looks like our man, showing as 37yo , Colour(?) Sgt 2nd Battn Connaught Rangers. Born Malta. Wife shows as Kathleen. edit: https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC%2F1911%2FRG14%2F27790%2F0147&parentid=GBC%2F1911%2FRG14%2F27790%2F0147%2F1 1911. Edited 4 July , 2022 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 4 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 4 July , 2022 Great finds Mark, I don't know how you do it. Sad that Edward/Edmond did not serve, I will remove him now. McManus, with the information and links you supplied I will be kept busy for the night, in a good way. Thank you again Mark, great finds. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 4 July , 2022 Share Posted 4 July , 2022 (edited) If this is he its slightly confusing. Says Pre-war but then quotes a number that is not. No other details on card. Courtesy fold3 Edited 4 July , 2022 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 4 July , 2022 Share Posted 4 July , 2022 4 minutes ago, Mark1959 said: If this is he its slightly confusing. Says Pre-war but then quotes a number that is not. No other details on card. Courtesy fold3 There could be a pre-war service taken into account with later service in some cases. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1959 Posted 4 July , 2022 Share Posted 4 July , 2022 (edited) He is 1038 Connaught Rangers served 1884-1907. Last posting seems to be Ballina,Co Mayo. Docs on Fold3 here. The docs also show birth in Malta. Not one for you I think Tom Edited 4 July , 2022 by Mark1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 4 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 4 July , 2022 Close...so close. Thank you kindly Mark and Craig, much appreciated. Now we can move forward and leave Donovan and McManus behind. Onward into the fray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 5 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 5 July , 2022 Good morning all. First one out of the bag is Mortimer Enright. He was turned down in the past because I coudl not find his records that shows how he got the TB and whether it was agg, caused by or originated during service. Can you help please? Enright Mortimer Private Royal Munster Fusiliers 6 Roden Street, Limerick 15/11/1919 Died after discharge at his home, 6 Roden Street, Limerick from Pulmonary Tuberculosis 2 years 6 months certified. Bridget Enright, 6 Roden Street, Limerick was present at death. Discharged no longer physically fit for war service-sickness. Unknown Serial No: 7081 Unit: 3rd Battalion Age: 27 Born: Boherbuoy, Limerick on 27/10/1892 Enlisted: 17/10/1916. Next of Kin: A single man. Son of James and Bridget (nee O'Donnell, died 09/02/1921) Enright, listed in the 1911 Census at 13 Walsh's Lane, off Carey's Lane, Limerick. Address in his pension card-6 Rhoden Street, Limerick. Grave or Memorial: Notes: Awarded Silver War Badge number 44944 on 09/02/1917. Did not serve overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 5 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 5 July , 2022 Another just in. Can you find this for me please I cannot nail him down at all. Ex soldier, Louis Farrell, died 06/08/1919 at Athy, County Kildare from syncope following heart failure. Inquest held on 08/08/1919. Aged about 22 years, a single man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 5 July , 2022 Share Posted 5 July , 2022 3 hours ago, museumtom said: Enright Mortimer Private Royal Munster Fusiliers 6 Roden Street, Limerick 15/11/1919 Died after discharge at his home, 6 Roden Street, Limerick from Pulmonary Tuberculosis 2 years 6 months certified. Bridget Enright, 6 Roden Street, Limerick was present at death. Discharged no longer physically fit for war service-sickness. Unknown Serial No: 7081 Mortimer ENRIGHT Tom, you do pick em! Once again Pulmonary TB/Phthisis after discharge - and we know how CWGC generally react to those on pension records. For what it is worth the MoP also gave his mother a dependant's pension after his death - another card at WFA/Fold3 Phew, how the MoP apparently,according to CWGC/NAM/JCCC, just threw the nation's money away without good cause! CWGC etc. need to wise up - MoP actions speak louder than the lack of military paperwork. Sorry, just gone off on one. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 5 July , 2022 Share Posted 5 July , 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, museumtom said: Ex soldier, Louis Farrell, died 06/08/1919 at Athy, County Kildare from syncope following heart failure. He was Louis FARRELL, 10488, Irish Guards Pension cards at WFA/Fold His mother's dependant's claim with similar details. Not sure some of the annotations help a lot [Though may have only been due to a lack of her evidenced dependance rather than anything else] On transfer to Z Reserve he had previously got a disability pension of 5/6 pw from 20/4/19 [suggests discharge/transfer to Z Reserve 19/4/19] - not sure it hugely helps the cause of MoP accuracy but they have got him down as Lucy Francis FARRELL [or is Lucy an irish form of Louis? in which case all might be well?? and the Francis might perhaps help???] Sorry not more helpful. M Edited 5 July , 2022 by Matlock1418 add Lucy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 5 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 5 July , 2022 Matlock more stunning research, thank you very much for this. No Lucy is not a normal version of Louis in Ireland believe it or not. How I pick 'em eh? Well the ones I post here are the ones we could not nail down in the past and I give them one last chance. Y'know I could feel the hackles raising in your reply about the M.O.D., I totally understand. We still have to play football by their rules. I see that there criteria for inclusion during and after the war was loose enough but they tightened up after that as we can see. Thank you again Matlock, I had nothing on Lucy and very little on Enright. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 5 July , 2022 Share Posted 5 July , 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, museumtom said: I see that there criteria for inclusion during and after the war was loose enough but they tightened up after that as we can see. Sorry, CWGC's current view of MoP is a constant running sore for me. For example: Whatever nowadays our view of morals might be if reviewing a crime/conviction/aquittal in the early C20th one references against the laws of the day, not against those of the C21th! Hey ho! - Happy to try and help you. So who's next? M Edited 5 July , 2022 by Matlock1418 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 5 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 5 July , 2022 Thank you Matlock. I reckon there might be a connection to service with this lad but I am not sure. Can you help please? Fay Christopher Private Royal Dublin Fusiliers 27 Denzille Street, Dublin 15/10/1919 Died after discharge at his home, 27 Denzille Street, Dublin, from Erysipelas of leg 5 days Cardiac Failure certified. His wife Annie was present at death Glasnevin (or Prospect) Cemetery, Dublin. Serial No: 22771 Unit: Age: 33 Born: Dublin City Enlisted: 13/04/1915 Next of Kin: Listed in the 1911 Census at 11 Mark Street, Trinity Ward, Dublin, with his wife Annie and children Anne Elizabeth, and john Joseph Fay. Christopher Fay, Stone Mason, 145 Townsend Street, son of John Fay, printer, married Anne Dolan, 11 Mark Street, Dublin, daughter of John Dolan, Compositor, at St Andrews Church, South Dublin on 26/09/1906. Grave or Memorial: Notes: Awarded Silver War Badge number 302841 on 11/01/1918. Discharged with wounds (gun shot wound, right Tibia) on 07/01/1918. Served overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 5 July , 2022 Share Posted 5 July , 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, museumtom said: Fay Christopher Private Royal Dublin Fusiliers 27 Denzille Street, Dublin 15/10/1919 Died after discharge at his home, 27 Denzille Street, Dublin, from Erysipelas of leg 5 days Cardiac Failure certified. His wife Annie was present at death Glasnevin (or Prospect) Cemetery, Dublin. Serial No: 22771 45 minutes ago, museumtom said: Discharged with wounds (gun shot wound, right Tibia) on 07/01/1918 Crikey! - he's got 7 pension cards at WFA/Fold3 Christopher FAY, 22771, Royal Dublin Fusiliers Disabilty as indicated - an amputation case - due to service - so what follows may not be wholly unsurprising Died due to Erysipelas [which is what the first word on his death entry was - a serious bacterial infection of the skin [etc?] I understand, especially in the pre-antibiotic days - I suppose it lead to his cardiac failure] = Erysipelas of leg, 5 days. Looks potentially promising to me but the trouble may perhaps be in convincing CWGC of the linkage between injury, subsequent condition and death. But will leave it to you to plough that furrow! Good luck. M Edited 5 July , 2022 by Matlock1418 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 5 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 5 July , 2022 Thank you Matlock, I did send off a query to Terry but he said I need to find a link. So we are screwed. Anyhoo, onward and upward. Thanks again and keep up the good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 5 July , 2022 Share Posted 5 July , 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, museumtom said: I did send off a query to Terry but he said I need to find a link. So we are screwed. Is Terry/IFCP always the 'gatekeeper' for CWGC? I might worry that IFCP are perhaps too conservative. I am not intending to be overly-critical of IFCP, as I think they are doing a really great job, but ... I send my non-comm. suggestions direct to CWGC and have had some successes. OK, not all, but ... Just a thought ... M Edited 5 July , 2022 by Matlock1418 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now