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So the extension tube is not just to adjust the reach of muzzle to Lug, but also a Bushing to reduce the MRD for the 8mm Gew.88. It is more clear to me now. And yes, As I said/ think, If they made this kind of Unique conversion on one or more other types of Bayonets, one would come to believe this to be another conversion standard/ type/practice that they did.

 

Hope you Kick Butt and WIN the case! I will cheat for you! Good Luck

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Typo, I will cheer for you on your case

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On 09/11/2019 at 18:33, zuluwar2006 said:

An extremely RARE RUSSIAN MOSIN NAGANT 1891 BAYONET, REISSUED FOR WW1 IMPERIAL GERMAN TROOPS  WITH ITS ERSATZ SCABBARD, WITH THE IMPERIAL EAGLE ON IT, INDICATING THE USE BY GERMANS DURING Ww1 and a unit marking on the bayonet, 6.K.215, 6th company number of soldier 215.

Unit marked bayonets of this kind are extremely rare. 

Regards

D. 

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A photo from a Ww1 german soldier, with a captured ersatz Russian mosin bayonet, with ersatz zinc sheath and correct frog. 

Regards

D. 

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Nice one! I used to have several of these but mine were unmarked and so I assume they were ones used by the Ottoman army. Could never make up my mind if they were German surplus passed on to Turkey or if they were Turkish captures. The scabbard is the same as the German ones so perhaps the former rather than the latter.

 

Julian

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XMAS.thumb.JPG.899d989ddb5e2c94b53f72193da2a636.JPGMerry Christmas to all fellows collectors.

I wish to each one of you, health, prosperity and nice items for your collection. 

All the best

D. 

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An EB 13 bayonet with fullered blade and one piece steel crossguard, in good condition. 

This one is a very rare to find model. 

Unit marking is I E B J R 135 and from the other side of the crossguard the number 210.

Field gray paint still exists on the pommel. 

Unfortunately no scabbard with this one. 

1st Ersatz Bataillon Infantry Regiment No 135, number of weapon 210.

135 Infantry Regiment had 2 ersatz Bataillon. 

The 135 with the 144th Infantry Regiment, were part of the 6 Brigade. 

The 135 Infantry Regiment officially had the name 3 Lothriginsches Infanterie Regiment. 

I am posting another unit marking from the same a Infantry. It seems that  armourers of this Infantry did not follow the official rules for the unit marking on the bayonets. 

This may happen as armourers did not had enough time to be precise on unit markings, as they were at the front line. 

Regards and Merry Christmas to all, 

D. 

 

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1 hour ago, zuluwar2006 said:

XMAS.thumb.JPG.899d989ddb5e2c94b53f72193da2a636.JPGMerry Christmas to all fellows collectors.

I wish to each one of you, health, prosperity and nice items for your collection. 

All the best

D. 

 

And yo you, Dimitri!

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War period unit stamps are always problematic, as the names were changed, and waffenmeister didnt use strictly the regulations.

Mery Christmas to all collectors. 

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22 hours ago, AndyBsk said:

War period unit stamps are always problematic, as the names were changed, and waffenmeister didnt use strictly the regulations.

Mery Christmas to all collectors. 

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Interesting one that! And Marrey Christmas to you, Andy, along with Dimitri, Steve, and all other German Imperial fanatics!

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Some ersatz bayonets from my collection, which I have posted in another topic than this one. 

Happy new year to all with health. 

Regards

D. 

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Hey Demitrios, I hope you got a little spoiled for  Christmas ! You may have posted before, but what is that last one? Ersatz, broad off set blade saw backed with no fullers

Best wishes for a great new year

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8 hours ago, Steve1871 said:

Hey Demitrios, I hope you got a little spoiled for  Christmas ! You may have posted before, but what is that last one? Ersatz, broad off set blade saw backed with no fullers

Best wishes for a great new year

Steve,

here are the details about this extremely rare bayonet. 

A Bavarian ersatz sawback model, which is using the sawback blade from the Infanterie Sabel 38 (1838).

I think 8 specimens from this bayonet have been recorded until today in museums and private collections. 

Regards

D. 

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Interesting translate of the Mery book? same as designation is little strange, anyway the bavarian Infanterie Faschinnenmesser of M1830 has normally no sawback, and only part of the Jaeger FM1838 were equiped with sawback, certainly a tip of blade was reshaped by refurbishment to ASG98 as is here attached to Gew98. I assume too wrong is the dating 1918 as they didnt used picklhaube in 1918 and the 30IR is a prussian unit not a bavarian.

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How do you do your magic there Demitrios?

coming up with one rare piece after another?!

great piece there

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Photographs and script about this extremely rare bayonet from Ersatz Bayonet Book, by Roy Williams. 

Regards

D. 

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And some more photos about this bayonet. IMG_20191229_205519.jpg.4633a15ccda2be06daad7af5a9e31fda.jpg

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Thanks for adding the details about doubble diameter is already a ASG88/98 so for various rifles, the origin of blade is of Infanterie Saebel M1830 or Jaeger Saebel M1838, of which the last one is sawbacked in majority.

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On 29/12/2019 at 20:14, Steve1871 said:

How do you do your magic there Demitrios?

coming up with one rare piece after another?!

great piece there

:D

Τhank you Steve, happy new year to you and your family. 

Happy new year to all the friends collectors, who are sharing the same passion, as we do. 

All the best with health, 

D. 

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A 98/05 aA Butcher blade PLAIN BAYONET with original steel scabbard and leather frog. 

Date on the spine of the blade is W 15, which means a war time construction (1915). 

Manufacturer`s name is C. G. HAENEL SUHL, which is a little rare to find, on wartime productions for 98/05 bayonets. 

Unit marking on the crossguard of the bayonet is 16.L.J.E.B.207

Which means LANDWEHR 16th INFANTERIE REGIMENT ERSATZ BATAILLON number of weapon 207.

This is the 3 Wesphalisches Landwehr Infanterie Regiment. 

A WAR TIME UNIT MARKING which is very rare to find, as cause of secrecy reasons (to avoid the knowledge by the allies, which german units were at the other side of no man's land), armourers avoid to place unit markings on bayonets during the war. 

This is my second bayonet I found with this unit marking(this one needs cleaning). 

The first one I found it in Germany and this one in France. 

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A very rare war time unit marked bayonet. 

Regards

D. 

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Hey Demitrios, wonderful find, the saying, “ A needle in a Hay Stack” comes to mind, but you actually do it! How???!!! Only you, and I think you have another “set” of matching units/ 2 separate bayonets. Great job. Are they same maker and year?

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9 hours ago, Steve1871 said:

Hey Demitrios, wonderful find, the saying, “ A needle in a Hay Stack” comes to mind, but you actually do it! How???!!! Only you, and I think you have another “set” of matching units/ 2 separate bayonets. Great job. Are they same maker and year?

Steve

Thank you and I am happy you like them. 

Unit marked war time  98/05 bayonets are very rare and when you see one, you have to buy it. 

The year is the same, 1915.

The manufacturers are different. The first is made from ALEX COPPEL SOLINGEN. 

Collector must have money to spend and luck. I was lucky on this, as another collector bought it but he finally wanted to sell it back. And I got it. 

This one is coming from Belgium, not France as I mentioned before. 

Regards

D. 

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And another one similar unit marking, with date 1915, manufacturer is ALEX COPPEL SOLINGEN, from a bayonet which is been selling by axis.militaria. 

Regards

D.

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All bayonets in previous threads here mentioned are S98/05aA, so early configuration, the unit stamps are same on all and not typical for manual direction 1897/1909, as these are wartime units. Normally J as Infanterie was not used in the manual, but as seen here the directions were not followed strictly,mainly in war period.

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4 hours ago, AndyBsk said:

All bayonets in previous threads here mentioned are S98/05aA, so early configuration, the unit stamps are same on all and not typical for manual direction 1897/1909, as these are wartime units. Normally J as Infanterie was not used in the manual, but as seen here the directions were not followed strictly,mainly in war period.

Andy, exactly my point of view. 

Regarxs

D. 

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Diamonds still exist out there!!! 

A very rare 1898/02 SAWBACK BAYONET, with matching leather scabbard. 

RICASSO is marked "C. G. HAENEL Suhl" 

Manufacturer is the C.G. Haenel Waffen und Fahrradfabrik A.G., Suhl firm. 

Other manufacturers for this very rare model are ERFURT and V. Schilling Suhl. 

As I bought it by "eye", I will come again with details for it. 

Regards

D. 

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