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Toby Brayley
21 hours ago, JMB1943 said:

Hello Toby,

 

What is the marking on the top bayonet?

Too fuzzy for my eyes.

 

Regards,

JMB

 

Sorry I missed this, I have acquired another one since my last post. Interesting earlier naval issue too. RAF 1B 1601. 1909 ground off quillon. No76 on rear of pommel No visible re issue marking. IMG_20190620_172823.jpg.532667dd08171eeba4ca541f15157fd8.jpg

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Toby Brayley

RAF 1C 3641

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1 E 6341

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JMB1943

Toby,

 

Excellent stuff, keep ‘em coming!

Looks like you are cornering the market in these.

 

Regards,

JMB

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elliot#1

Just seen another up for sale online, unusually with the RAF marking on the short side of the pommel. Made by Chapman 2/18.

 

R.A.F.

1

0681

 

Best,

 

Elliot

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JMB1943

Elliot,

 

Thanks, we already have this one listed in the table of post #139, but please keep looking.

 

Regards,

JMB

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elliot#1
28 minutes ago, JMB1943 said:

Elliot,

 

Thanks, we already have this one listed in the table of post #139, but please keep looking.

 

Regards,

JMB

 

Apologies, I did check but was looking for those starting with 0 and didn't see any! I now notice on the table it is just listed as 681.

 

Best,

 

Elliot

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trajan

JMB and all, work and other things has kept me away from GWF for far too long! But great always to see all these extras. I will try to chase up RAF when next in the UK but it really needs one of you UK-based guys to do this - JMB in the USA and me in Turkey... A challenge? 

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RGJDEE

Here’s another one For you JMB.

with Navy Mark to boot.

regards R.

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trajan

Nice one - thanks! 

I did email my old contact at the RAF regiment museum about these but recieved no reply...

 

Julian

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JMB1943

Richard,

 

Thanks for showing this, but you will see that it was already recorded in the table that I posted on May 28.

Interesting that it is also marked for the Royal Navy, and polished within an inch of its life.

I have not seen any new RAF-marked for quite a while, so thanks for keeping your eyes open!

 

Regards,

JMB

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collectorsguide

I recall a number of years ago finding the instructions for the marking of these RAF Bayonets in an ACI. it was either in the Army ACIs or the RAF equivalent .It gave the instructions  for marking this type.If I remember correctly they are post war  Depot markings.Each one refers to a different Depot.The bayonets were re used WW1 Examples. best w, Howard (ACIs = Army Council Instructions)

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JMB1943
9 hours ago, collectorsguide said:

I recall a number of years ago finding the instructions for the marking of these RAF Bayonets in an ACI. it was either in the Army ACIs or the RAF equivalent .It gave the instructions  for marking this type.If I remember correctly they are post war  Depot markings.Each one refers to a different Depot.The bayonets were re used WW1 Examples. best w, Howard (ACIs = Army Council Instructions)

 

Howard,

 

This is a very valuable piece of information, because it gives us a particular type of source document to research.

Trajan had previously contacted the RAF museum at Hendon with a general inquiry, but to no avail.

Many Thanks for this!!!

 

Regards,

JMB

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collectorsguide

I can vouch that the info is correct.I was looking for something else at the time.If I come across it again I'll post the info. best w, Howard

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trajan

Sorry to be so late coming back to this, but as JMB said, this is potentially fantastic information! Sadly, my dad died over 42 years ago but he was an inspector of RAF Maintenance Units and could probably have sorted this one out reasonably fast... 

 

So, when times permits, a search needed for RAF Depots that might have used these letters. I always thought they might be a code of some kind for area commands...

 

Julian

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Nutting
On 21/06/2019 at 11:31, elliot#1 said:

Just seen another up for sale online, unusually with the RAF marking on the short side of the pommel. Made by Chapman 2/18.

 

R.A.F.

1

0681

 

Best,

 

Elliot

 

I just bought that one!  Marked as described. No reissue dates, but appears to have earlier struck-through stamps on the pommel which have been polished into obscurity.

 

Nigel

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MikeyH

Just spotted on an online dealers website,

markings not clear due to corrosion but looks like:-

R.A.F.

1B

4594

on a P1907 dated Jan. 1915.

 

Mike.

 

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JMB1943

Mike,

 

Many thanks for keeping your peepers open, that is a new one.

 

Regards,

JMB

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trajan

Indeed, always nice to see how they keep popping up!

 

Julian

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Dave66

One has just surfaced here....http://www.bayonetman.com/shop.php item No 55294.

1e 0116? Interestingly that has been cancelled, but there is also a date of 3 21.

 

Apologies if already recorded.

 

Dave.

 

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JMB1943

Dave, 

 

Nice new one, with several juicy markings to boot!!

 

Regards,

JMB

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Dave66
1 hour ago, JMB1943 said:

Dave, 

 

Nice new one, with several juicy markings to boot!!

 

Regards,

JMB

I thought it was interesting,

another possible supply depot issue in 1921...similar to the two noted in posts 101 and 102.

 

All the best,

 

Dave

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MikeyH

JMB

 

Just seen on a dealers website in the Netherlands:-

R.A.F.

1.E

0398      on a Wilkinson dated April 1918

He also has another Wilkinson,dated May 1918 marked

R.A.F.

5809

Unsure if these are 'known'.

 

Mike.

 

have just scrolled back to #139, can see that these have been seen previously.

 

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JMB1943

Mr Mikey,

 

Yes, but it shows that you are on the lookout!!!

 

Regards,

JMB

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MikeyH

JMB

Another one!  

R.A.F.

1E

4594

1916 Wilkinson on a U.K. dealers website.

Mike.

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Soldier28

Hi JMB, Trajan

With the compiled RAF list to date you have, it looks like only one on there is tied to the Regiment while all others are general issue. Is that your understanding too ?

Regards Soldier28

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