trajan Posted 18 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 18 April , 2019 You are probably right JMB. Any chance of an updated list to see where we are? I do vaguely remember you had a query on of I posted a long time ago - a 1E or 1F - which I must track down. The owner of this new one has responded, talking about the 'economic crisis' here in Turkey so perhaps he will sell but I must see what price - I suffer from the same economic crisis also! E.g., petrol went up overnight a week or so back by 19 kurus a litre - 3 cents 0.26 US gallon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 18 April , 2019 Share Posted 18 April , 2019 5 hours ago, trajan said: You are probably right JMB. Any chance of an updated list to see where we are? I do vaguely remember you had a query on of I posted a long time ago - a 1E or 1F - which I must track down. Trajan, I have sent you an e-mail; you will see that we have also logged a 1. 5809. And yes, you must...... Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 19 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 19 April , 2019 Indeed, I must check on that 1.E or 1.F business. But I only started noticing these when I bought my own example in 2014, and I think the data might have got lost along the way. Anyway, where are they all coming from now? In 2014 hardly any had been reported - now we have 6 pages of these things on GWF! They are worse than the proverbial no. 7 bus and with two in Turkey to boot! On which note, no further reply yet from the owner of this last one. Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGJDEE Posted 26 April , 2019 Share Posted 26 April , 2019 Hopefully this post will not cause any ructions between any of you Gentlemen ( not a hook in sight !😀) Another RAF for the database kindest regards Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 26 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 26 April , 2019 (edited) Not at all, not ructions at all! More grist to the mill! I really must try find my first records of these RAF ones as entered on an old lap top and hopefully still there, to see what that I.E or 1.F. was, but be assured that JMB will keep me on my toes. Many thanks though for spotting this one! As I have said before, when I found my first one very few seem to have been around (or at least recorded here!), and now - after a 2-3 year gap - they are all over the place. The most recent Turkish example (post 120) has slipped my hands - but the main thing is to get as much as possible on record - only done thanks to all of ye out there! Then we can all start data-bashing to see where we get to. Edited 26 April , 2019 by trajan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 26 April , 2019 Share Posted 26 April , 2019 (edited) Richard, Thanks for that one! Is it 1 / E / 4840? Also, who is the maker? And dated ? Regards, JMB [edit: Ignore my questions, I found it on-line.] Edited 26 April , 2019 by JMB1943 Add info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGJDEE Posted 27 April , 2019 Share Posted 27 April , 2019 Going cheap that one. For over here anyway. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot#1 Posted 30 April , 2019 Share Posted 30 April , 2019 Have we had I.C. 9235 yet? Currently on Tommys' Militaria. Best, Elliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyH Posted 30 April , 2019 Share Posted 30 April , 2019 2 hours ago, elliot#1 said: Have we had I.C. 9235 yet? Currently on Tommys' Militaria. Best, Elliot Yes we have, sold by auction here in Northants, back in March this year. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot#1 Posted 30 April , 2019 Share Posted 30 April , 2019 3 minutes ago, MikeyH said: Yes we have, sold by auction here in Northants, back in March this year. Mike. Mike, Many thanks, I had a brief look but couldn't see it so I thought it better to add and run the chance of doubling up rather than missing it. Would it be possible to have an updated list again added to the bottom of the thread? Best, Elliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 30 April , 2019 Author Share Posted 30 April , 2019 4 hours ago, elliot#1 said: Have we had I.C. 9235 yet? Currently on Tommys' Militaria. 1 hour ago, MikeyH said: Yes we have, sold by auction here in Northants, back in March this year. 1 hour ago, elliot#1 said: Many thanks, I had a brief look but couldn't see it so I thought it better to add and run the chance of doubling up rather than missing it. ... Would it be possible to have an updated list again added to the bottom of the thread? Always good to know there are spotters out there and of course, better to have a notification of one that might have been missed rather than not! Thanks Eliot, and MikeyH also for keeping a track of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N White Posted 26 May , 2019 Share Posted 26 May , 2019 Searched and did not see this one in the thread yet. Apologies if i missed it. What is the current full list? http://www.bayonetconnection.com/british-commonwealth-c-68/british-p1907-ws-and-frog-raf-marked-p-3858.html 1.D 7564 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 27 May , 2019 Author Share Posted 27 May , 2019 (edited) NWhite, Thanks for spotting and reporting this one. JMB will have a current list - I simply haven't had time to keep the list up to date. Interesting that this is a WILKINSON / PALL MALL one - off-hand the first? These RAF ones are a very mixed bunch, a bit like Tutankhamun's tomb, in the sense that they came out of some central store for issue with no thought given to the individual makers. Edited 27 May , 2019 by trajan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 28 May , 2019 Share Posted 28 May , 2019 The current listing of these RAF-marked bayonets is here. Many thanks to all who have contributed and keep up the good work.(marking/maker/date of first issue/re-issues) Regards, JMB 1./// 1. A 1. B 1. C 1. D 1. E 1. F A. L. 371 681 943 398 749 852 1601 897 2202 1016 2103 1712 2994 3021 1550 1878 3157 3713 1787 4379 3242 5806 4027 4606 6557 5546 4033 5415 5809 4650 5713 4232 6802 6719 7808 6563 4840 6731 7390 7448 8080 7564 5476 7859 7600 6206 8356 9235 8490 9303 9298 9996 9798 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 28 May , 2019 Author Share Posted 28 May , 2019 Yes, please do keep reporting on any ones we have missed and new discoveries! JMB and I are happy to share the above data set, originally started by me, greatly extended by my very good friend JMB, and subsequently enhanced enormously with the help of so many others here on GWF, for which we are both really very grateful. We would only request that it not be mis-used in any way or - much worse - appropriated without checking with us first! I am currently in the UK with some spare 'research' time, and if time permits I will try to get to the bottom of these ones... Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot#1 Posted 29 May , 2019 Share Posted 29 May , 2019 On Saturday at the Overlord Show I came across RAF 1.B 7112 made by Wilkinson, but unfortunately the date was too worn to make out. Best, Elliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 29 May , 2019 Share Posted 29 May , 2019 Elliot, Many Thanks for that new one! Boots on the ground do make a real difference in unearthing these particular P.07’s. Many of these Bayonets are highly polished, so do you think that the date was worn away by heavy polishing? Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot#1 Posted 29 May , 2019 Share Posted 29 May , 2019 1 hour ago, JMB1943 said: Elliot, Many Thanks for that new one! Boots on the ground do make a real difference in unearthing these particular P.07’s. Many of these Bayonets are highly polished, so do you think that the date was worn away by heavy polishing? Regards, JMB It did certainly look shiny and worn away more than anything else so I do suspect that’s the most likely cause. I must admit though, I didn’t take it full out the scabbard. IIRC it had a re-issue stamp for 1926. Best, Elliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 29 May , 2019 Share Posted 29 May , 2019 Elliot, Thanks for the update, that gives a more complete picture. Many of the photos that I have seen show that the blueing at the ricasso has been totally removed by polishing. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 30 May , 2019 Share Posted 30 May , 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, JMB1943 said: Elliot, Thanks for the update, that gives a more complete picture. Many of the photos that I have seen show that the blueing at the ricasso has been totally removed by polishing. Regards, JMB Here are my two. 1C 1E Edited 30 May , 2019 by Toby Brayley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 30 May , 2019 Author Share Posted 30 May , 2019 Thanks Toby - can't quite read the number on the 1E - 65?? The 1C is 3641, correct? Are these recent acquisitions? The reason I ask is that when I started this thread back in 2014, there were very few about, but over the last year or so they have been turing up like the proverbial Clapham Omnibus! Trajan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 30 May , 2019 Share Posted 30 May , 2019 Toby, Two new ones, Many Thanks! If you could whistle up the dates of manufacture and any re-inspection dates it would help, because it is not yet known when these Bayonets were issued to the RAF. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 1 June , 2019 Share Posted 1 June , 2019 Sorry gents I missed these replies, I will get on that as soon as I am back. Toby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 2 June , 2019 Share Posted 2 June , 2019 To all of the RAF spotters, I have just seen photos of a P.’07 that is marked both for RAF (pommel) & Naval use (ricasso). What is even more unusual is that, as far as I can see, it bears only the three expected inspector’s stamps and no re-inspection date. I had already logged this one some time ago, so not a new one, but at that time the ricasso was not shown. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 19 June , 2019 Share Posted 19 June , 2019 On 30/05/2019 at 06:20, Toby Brayley said: Here are my two. 1C 1E Hello Toby, What is the marking on the top bayonet? Too fuzzy for my eyes. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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