neverforget Posted 17 September , 2020 Share Posted 17 September , 2020 Assuming that Knotty's man isn't Jimmy Cagney, I'm wondering if this might be a German who fought for France, and vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 17 September , 2020 Share Posted 17 September , 2020 Nope mine and Pete’s man served for their respective countries PS Pete I hope you didn’t mind me answering on your behalf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 17 September , 2020 Share Posted 17 September , 2020 Not a problem John. 28 minutes ago, Knotty said: however it’s the same sort of irritation as with telegraph wires You've got to let it go. It's strange how you don't notice something until it's pointed out and then you only see that feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 17 September , 2020 Share Posted 17 September , 2020 Typically misguided intuition once again. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 17 September , 2020 Share Posted 17 September , 2020 1 minute ago, neverforget said: Typically misguided intuition once again. 😂 Not a problem Mr P. As Murray Walker would say "UNLESS I AM VERY MUCH MISTAKEN! YES! I AM VERY MUCH MISTAKEN!". What surprised me when I started reading around these two men is how far into the back of the WW1 beyond* the event took place. Pete. * at least as far as most English speaking students of the Great War are concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 19 September , 2020 Share Posted 19 September , 2020 If you knew both names and plugged them into a search engine (at least on DuckDuckGo) you would get an motorsport hit. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 20 September , 2020 Share Posted 20 September , 2020 This is so unfair... I don't even have the time to play right now... too much stuff to read and to do for school... when I'm not stuck at some family thing like today. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 September , 2020 Share Posted 20 September , 2020 I can't make head or tail of this one. Assuming that they are somehow linked is about as far as I've got, and I'm not even sure about that. Help.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 20 September , 2020 Share Posted 20 September , 2020 Of whom was this said? Not definitely a story from 1914-1918, but he was very active in that period. After a speech by this man, the person clearing up the hall discovered that the speaker had left his notes on the podium. A marginal comment read: "Argument weak here. Shout and bang the podium." Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 September , 2020 Share Posted 20 September , 2020 7 minutes ago, Ron Clifton said: Of whom was this said? Not definitely a story from 1914-1918, but he was very active in that period. After a speech by this man, the person clearing up the hall discovered that the speaker had left his notes on the podium. A marginal comment read: "Argument weak here. Shout and bang the podium." Ron W.S.C? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 20 September , 2020 Share Posted 20 September , 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, neverforget said: W.S.C? Or maybe LG? As for the two gentlemen posted by myself and Mr Knott if you were to place them chronologically with the British members of this select but unfortunate group they would fall just before a man on a train and a cyclist. Pete. Edited 20 September , 2020 by Fattyowls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 20 September , 2020 Share Posted 20 September , 2020 I like that clue Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 20 September , 2020 Share Posted 20 September , 2020 1 hour ago, Marilyne said: This is so unfair... I don't even have the time to play right now... too much stuff to read and to do for school... When you are promoted to running the whole Belgian army I'm going to tease you about that statement........ Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 20 September , 2020 Share Posted 20 September , 2020 Just now, Knotty said: I like that clue Pete Thanks Mr K; at the risk of being immodest I do too. I can't remember the name of the man on the train off hand but the boy Van Emden will know, it was he that brought him to my attention. In the past I have taken pity when posting clues but now it's no more Mr Nice Guy. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 20 September , 2020 Share Posted 20 September , 2020 I've found the man on the train and updated the clue above; the two men in the photos come before him by a couple of days and before the cyclist by nearly three weeks. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 September , 2020 Share Posted 20 September , 2020 17 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: I've found the man on the train and updated the clue above; the two men in the photos come before him by a couple of days and before the cyclist by nearly three weeks. Pete. Got you Pete. Your clue is on a Parr with one of the best of recent times. My general train of thought kicked in here. Jules Peugeot and Albert Mayer, if I am not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 20 September , 2020 Share Posted 20 September , 2020 3 minutes ago, neverforget said: Got you Pete. Your clue is on a Parr with one of the best of recent times. My general train of thought kicked in here. Jules Peugeot and Albert Mayer, if I am not mistaken. And a clever answer if you ask me Mr P. If another clue were to be needed I was going to throw in the son of Zeus and Antiope (although other individuals with this name in Greek mythology are available, this one is mentioned in a work by a Lt. wounded in the graveyard at Bazentin-le-Petit)..... Yes, if I remember correctly Lt. Albert Mayer's cavalry crossed the border at Joncherey not far from Switzerland the day before the declaration of war. They were challenged by Jules-André Peugeot and his comrades upon which Mayer shot Peugeot and was then shot and killed himself. When I looked up Joncherey I was surprised to find it was so far west. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 September , 2020 Share Posted 20 September , 2020 Nice double, John and Pete. Very surprising that they haven't featured on here before now. P.S. Your Greek God clue would have thrown me well and truly off the scent, Pete. 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 20 September , 2020 Share Posted 20 September , 2020 You will find them both featured on Pete’s thread “Has anyone got a photo of.........”, I put up a photo of their graves, and I’m not going to embarrass you by saying that the next post was from your goodself🤣🤣🤣 oops....sorry😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 September , 2020 Share Posted 20 September , 2020 1 minute ago, Knotty said: You will find them both featured on Pete’s thread “Has anyone got a photo of.........”, I put up a photo of their graves, and I’m not going to embarrass you by saying that the next post was from your goodself🤣🤣🤣 oops....sorry😁 Thanks pal, it's good of you to spare me that unimaginable embarrassment, not to mention public humiliation. 😆You're a gentleman and a scholar. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 20 September , 2020 Share Posted 20 September , 2020 Interestingly, if you use the word in its loosest sense, I thought about following the Greek mythology clue with a photo of the author's forehead where I thought a bit of the graveyard at Bazentin-le-Petit was still in situ. But could I find a photo with so much as a pimple? The non clue clue was HMS Amphion, sunk on the 6th August having hit a mine laid by a German minelayer that she had sunk the previous day. The loss of at least 130 crew members (and a few German prisoners from the minelayer) was the day after after Henry Hadley, who was was shot on a train on the 3rd August had died in a German hospital. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 21 September , 2020 Share Posted 21 September , 2020 9 hours ago, Fattyowls said: Interestingly, if you use the word in its loosest sense, I thought about following the Greek mythology clue with a photo of the author's forehead where I thought a bit of the graveyard at Bazentin-le-Petit was still in situ. But could I find a photo with so much as a pimple? The non clue clue was HMS Amphion, sunk on the 6th August having hit a mine laid by a German minelayer that she had sunk the previous day. The loss of at least 130 crew members (and a few German prisoners from the minelayer) was the day after after Henry Hadley, who was was shot on a train on the 3rd August had died in a German hospital. Pete. That would have been a fiendishly clever clue, whilst at the same time being dastardly and despicable of you Pete. One can only marvel at your Bond-villainesque sadism when imparting clues to the more dense population, of which I place myself at the top of the pile, or perhaps the bottom depending on your interpretation. When you mentioned a cycle and a train a lightbulb switched on, but anything requiring more intellectual thought would have left me stumbling around in my dull recesses. A complete fluke on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 21 September , 2020 Share Posted 21 September , 2020 12 hours ago, Fattyowls said: Or maybe LG? Pete. Well done, Pete. I thought it would be an easy one! The Welsh Wizard it is. 11 hours ago, Fattyowls said: I can't remember the name of the man on the train off hand William Huskisson, I think. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 21 September , 2020 Share Posted 21 September , 2020 16 hours ago, Fattyowls said: When you are promoted to running the whole Belgian army I'm going to tease you about that statement........ Pete. you think I will have time then??? let me say it before anybody else does: by then the army will be so small I'll be able to run it between my dinner and tea. LOOOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 21 September , 2020 Share Posted 21 September , 2020 7 hours ago, Ron Clifton said: William Huskisson, I think Interestingly (again using the word in it's loosest sense) you pass the site of the accident on the Liverpool Lime St to Manchester Victoria line (I think). It's marked by a memorial which was unveiled the year before the events we were discussing. Now not many people know that........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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