Guest Posted 21 October , 2020 Share Posted 21 October , 2020 Right chaps-Out of the line, time for a bit of R &R - an easy one but might fool the odd one of you out there: Oh, you want a clue as well..... Tut, some people....... OK- This man was involved in a long-running spat with a holder of the Blue Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 21 October , 2020 Share Posted 21 October , 2020 That is Montgomery Clift, playing a man who was wounded at Meteren...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 21 October , 2020 Share Posted 21 October , 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: That is Montgomery Clift, playing a man who was wounded at Meteren...... Close. I must say your avatar does look a little bit like our man- Perhaps I was just testing if you were awake out there!! Yes-and the Blue Max reference should be explained as well. But let us without further ado get on to Part II of this little WIT: Who is this and what was his connection with "Montgomery Clift"? PS For the sake of clarity, I should emphasize that the chap below was NOT a holder of the Blue Max Edited 21 October , 2020 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 21 October , 2020 Share Posted 21 October , 2020 On 21/10/2020 at 21:44, Fattyowls said: That is Montgomery Clift Close Remove the Clift😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 21 October , 2020 Share Posted 21 October , 2020 Part 2 = Bernard Alexander Montgomery Grant, more familiar as Bernie Grant MP for Tottenham And now Goodnight all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 22 October , 2020 Share Posted 22 October , 2020 6 hours ago, Knotty said: Part 2 = Bernard Alexander Montgomery Grant, more familiar as Bernie Grant MP for Tottenham And now Goodnight all. Well done Knotty- The late Bernie Grant, MP for Tottenham was named after the Field Marshal. They also shared the same nickname- To his friends, Bernie Grant was known as "Monty" Right then,,,,,,,,, Back to researching Bulgarian submarine commanders of the Great War for a meaty WIT...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 26 October , 2020 Share Posted 26 October , 2020 (edited) It has been written of ‘Jumbo’ Wilson that he, “was surprisingly lacking in panache. He seemed to make very little attempt to put himself across to the general public. Instead he simply got in with the series of formidable jobs assigned to him.” Anyway, who is this ? ? ? EDIT: image from here https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205289586 Edited 26 October , 2020 by Uncle George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 October , 2020 Share Posted 26 October , 2020 I am hopeless on cap badges- be it a regiment or the local Electricity Meter Reader or Bus Driver. I am tempted to ask if the man might have trained as a doctor before the war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 26 October , 2020 Share Posted 26 October , 2020 I am tempted to ask if the man might have trained as a doctor before the war? Er, no. Another quote from that biographical sketch of Wilson: “What can we make of this great wartime commander whom history has largely passed by?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 26 October , 2020 Share Posted 26 October , 2020 Seaforth Highlander? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 26 October , 2020 Share Posted 26 October , 2020 4 minutes ago, Knotty said: Seaforth Highlander? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 26 October , 2020 Share Posted 26 October , 2020 I wonder if the wartime leader hint might point to Sir William Montgomerie Thomson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 October , 2020 Share Posted 26 October , 2020 51 minutes ago, Uncle George said: Er, no. Another quote from that biographical sketch of Wilson: “What can we make of this great wartime commander whom history has largely passed by?” Blast- Thought it might be a young Philip Christison-wrong regiment Seaforth? Kenneth Anderson??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 26 October , 2020 Share Posted 26 October , 2020 On 26/10/2020 at 19:25, neverforget said: I wonder if the wartime leader hint might point to Sir William Montgomerie Thomson? Sorry, no. Kenneth Anderson??? Yes indeed; the commander of the First Army during Operation Torch and thereafter. Here’s Eisenhower’s assessment of him: ...a gallant Scot, devoted to duty and absolutely selfless. Honest and straightforward, he was blunt, at times to the point of rudeness, and this trait, curiously enough, seemed to bring him into conflict with his British confreres more than it did with Americans. His real difficulty was shyness. He was not a popular type, but I had a real respect for his fighting heart. Even his most severe critic must find it difficult to discount the smashing victory he finally attained in Tunisia. Image from IWM. The Wilson quotes are from a sketch by Michael Dewar in ‘Churchill’s Generals’ (1991). The Eisenhower quote I found on Wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 26 October , 2020 Share Posted 26 October , 2020 And a salutary reminder that those who get the laurels and the fame of History might not be those who deserve such a big dollop of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 26 October , 2020 Share Posted 26 October , 2020 And a salutary reminder that those who get the laurels and the fame of History might not be those who deserve such a big dollop of them. Indeed. His Wiki page seems to lean heavily on Gregory Blaxland’s ‘The Plain Cook and the Great Showman: The First and Eighth Armies in North Africa’ (1977); and it quotes Blaxland directly: Anderson’s 1959 death "caused little stir. He was one of nature's losers in the contest for fame". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 27 October , 2020 Share Posted 27 October , 2020 In honour of the thread statto and stalwart making a rare but welcome foray into the forum try this one for size. The owner of this fine 'tache is in two places at once, or he was the last time I checked..... Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 27 October , 2020 Share Posted 27 October , 2020 Welcome back Mr Ridgus. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ridgus Posted 27 October , 2020 Share Posted 27 October , 2020 Thanks NF. As always its lovely to check back in on my favourite thread and see it still thriving David PS And as normal I haven't a clue who Pete's latest picture is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 27 October , 2020 Share Posted 27 October , 2020 (edited) That tash looks remarkably familiar. I've been racking my brains. I think it might be Captain Fergus Bowes Lyon. Edited 27 October , 2020 by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ridgus Posted 27 October , 2020 Share Posted 27 October , 2020 Who is both on the Loos memorial and has a grave marker, hence Pete's cryptic clue. As astute as ever Mr Plumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 27 October , 2020 Share Posted 27 October , 2020 (edited) I recognised the features as soon as he posted it but for the life of me couldn't think who it was until just. At least it won't keep me awake now. Edited 27 October , 2020 by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 27 October , 2020 Share Posted 27 October , 2020 (edited) I'm glad I'm not the cause of insonminya insunmnia innsomia sleeplessness in the greater Birmingham metro area. Fergus Bowes-Lyon it is, originally named on the Loos Memorial at Dud Corner but subsequently given a special memorial at Quarry cemetery just to the north. Had NF not been the fastest gun south of the Rea* I was going to use hewed stone and faulty ordnance as clues. Good to have the band back together too. Pete. *other West Midlands water courses are available. Edited 27 October , 2020 by Fattyowls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ridgus Posted 28 October , 2020 Share Posted 28 October , 2020 Strangely enough this handsome chap could be bracketed with Leslie Howard and Glen Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 28 October , 2020 Share Posted 28 October , 2020 Hmm.... I wonder if this one has wings. It's not Cyril Lowe is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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