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Marilyne

Knotty's on the right path…

 

M.

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Knotty

First U.K. Military Medal? as I believe the MC was only awarded to a nurse in WW2 and another in Iraq.

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neverforget

Dorothie Feilding was the first female M.C. Phoebe Chapple was the first female doctor.

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Knotty

Well that’s blown my theory out of the water then😂

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Knotty

Phoebe Chappel was an Australian, so that leaves the Canadians, who’s first seven nurses and a Matron cited for the award of the MM in 1919 were,Matron Edith Campbell, Lenora Herrington, Lottie Urquhart & Janet Williamson of 1st Canadian General Hospital, Helen Hansen & Beatrice McNair of 7th Canadian General and  Mary Meta Hodge &  Eleanor Thompson of 3rd Stationary Hospital.

 

Bet she is one of them, but not Herrington I have her picture.

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neverforget

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Knotty

Bug ger, you beat me😡

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neverforget
2 minutes ago, Knotty said:

Bug ger, you beat me😡

I'd call it a draw.

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Marilyne

Good Morning on this fine 7th day of confinement…

 

Yes, it's Meta… First Canadian to receive the MM. And yes, together with Eleanor Thompson, but there are no pics of her.

What is interesting here - I'm reading up on the bombing of Doullens Nb 3 CSH - is that initially the Military Cross was requested for them by the Canadian authorities, because the Canadian nurses were officers: the nurses were lieutenants, their matron the first woman ever to hold the rank of Major. And so as junior officers they could have been entitled the MC. But the top brass Drew the line at the MM... a woman with an MC: SHOCKING !!

Well done everybody!!

 

 

M.

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Knotty

Time to resurrect before it goes off the radar

Cannot find any reference in WIT (I may be wrong), so who is he and what is his significance.

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Marilyne

not sure… Brigadier general… am I seeing NZ rifles on the cap, or do I have a case of being too close to ANZAC day and so I see Aussies and Kiwis everywhere???

 

M.

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Knotty

Sorry M, not ANZAC related at all, so as a starter the first clue can be that he was Irish by birth.

And yes a Brigadier General👍

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Knotty

Another clue then, he is a VC recipient.

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Marilyne

hmmm… top of my head Charles Fitzclarence was Irish but his VC was Boer War …

 

M.

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Knotty

Morning M

And that he was an Irishman was my next clue. Well done Brigadier General Charles FitzClarence it is.
Instrumental in holding the line at Gheluvelt, and sadly killed in Nov 14, his body never found he is the highest ranked officer recorded on the Menin Gate.
Here is his wiki page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_FitzClarence

 

John

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Marilyne
18 hours ago, Knotty said:

 the first clue can be that he was Irish by birth.

 

 

Irish was your first clue…

guess I was lucky…

 

M.

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MBrockway
On 23/04/2020 at 13:36, Knotty said:

Time to resurrect before it goes off the radar

Cannot find any reference in WIT (I may be wrong), so who is he and what is his significance.

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He's the spitting image of Brigadier F Earl Johnston, who lead the New Zealand Infantry Brigade at Gallipoli and, on the Western Front, the NZ 1st Inf Bde and briefly the NZ Rifle Brigade (which was a four battalion brigade formed of all the four battalions of the regiment known as The New Zealand Rifle Brigade - confusing if one is used to RB as used in the British Army).  Although Kiwi-born, he was originally in the British Army in the North Staffs Regt and was on attachment in New Zealand at the outbreak of the War.

 

He was killed by a sniper on 07 Aug 1917 opposite Warneton.

 

Seen here at Krithia ...

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and his studio portraits from various of the NZ unit and official histories ...

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... especially this one :thumbsup:

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Are you sure your photo is of Brig. Fitzclarence, VC ?  :D  They could certainly be twins on appearance alone mind you!

 

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Mark

 

 

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Knotty

Hi Mark

Looks like a cock up on my behalf, however in my defence the image was taken from an invitation to attend a WFA meeting with one of our eminent scholars. It does explain why M was correct with her observation on the NZ badge, so apologies to you M

Thanks for pointing it out Mark, must remember to check before send.😁

John

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MBrockway

You have to admit they're like two peas, so it's an understandable mistake!

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Gheluvelt has of course special resonance for us Kiddy chaps :thumbsup:

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Fattyowls
29 minutes ago, MBrockway said:

Gheluvelt has of course special resonance for us Kiddy chaps

 

With good reason.

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Fattyowls

In the little picture contained in the tweet that Knotty included you can see a gate. It's now in the trees to the left of this picture roughly between the third and fourth street lamp down the road before the house. The rebuilt chateau is behind the trees on the left, the Worcesters were advancing left to right and the viewpoint is looking ENE from just by the South Wales Borderers memorial next to the Worcesters one.

 

Pete.

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MBrockway

Back in Blighty, here's some material on Gheluvelt Park in Worcester -

 

Gheluvelt Park, Worcester - History (BBC, 2009)

 

It's an old webpage and the link to the Pathé newsreel of the opening in 1922 is broken.

 

Here's the correct link ...

John French opening Gheluvelt Park, Worcester, 1922

 

 

 

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Knotty
1 hour ago, MBrockway said:

You have to admit they're like two peas, so it's an understandable mistake!

Very much alike but still a silly mistake by me

1 hour ago, MBrockway said:

Gheluvelt has of course special resonance for us Kiddy chaps :thumbsup:

Take it your a Kiddy man then? Anything to do with the carpet manufacturer of the same name as yourself😁

 

John

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Knotty
1 hour ago, Fattyowls said:

the viewpoint is looking ENE from just by the South Wales Borderers memorial next to the Worcesters one.

Hi Pete
Is there anywhere on the Western Front you haven’t taken a picture ?

Hope your keeping well

John
 

 

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Fattyowls
12 hours ago, Knotty said:

Is there anywhere on the Western Front you haven’t taken a picture ? No*

Hope your keeping well We are, hope you are too matey. And that goes for all the other inmates of course......

 

*It's worth bearing in mind that I tell lies too.

 

Pete.

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