Knotty Posted 21 February , 2020 Share Posted 21 February , 2020 20 hours ago, Marilyne said: Houston UG quoted the above....... I can identify the prisoner with the number 12272, ( cryptic clue on his name = watching for the enemy with an extra t) but no clue as to the top photo. Hope help comes soon......to quote Eastenders “Doing my ‘ead in!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWARD1 Posted 21 February , 2020 Share Posted 21 February , 2020 The subject in the smaller photo is directly responsible for the death of 12272 and 12241,12248, 12245,12246 and eight others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Hall Posted 21 February , 2020 Share Posted 21 February , 2020 Thanks Knotty, Both were involved in the Camp Logan Incident. 1917 Pvt Leroy Pinkett, (Prisoner 12272) The other is the man who confirmed the sentence. Brig. General John Wilson Ruckman I hope his gunnery skills were better than his attempts at jurisprudence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Hall Posted 21 February , 2020 Share Posted 21 February , 2020 (edited) Not one usually wont to contradict royalty, Your Higness, but I rather think he was in the second batch of Ruckmans victims, when he realised he’d over stepped the legal process. He got life, Reduced to 28 years 6 months and was released on parole on 3rd June 1927, according to the state archive. Edited 21 February , 2020 by Gunner Hall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 21 February , 2020 Share Posted 21 February , 2020 31 minutes ago, Gunner Hall said: Thanks Knotty, Both were involved in the Camp Logan Incident. 1917 Pvt Leroy Pinkett, (Prisoner 12272) The other is the man who confirmed the sentence. Brig. General John Wilson Ruckman I hope his gunnery skills were better than his attempts at jurisprudence. Yes indeed. They of the 1917 Houston Riot. Wiki spells 12272’s name as ‘Pickett’, and tells us he was sprung in 1935. Wiki is the source of his photo. Ruckman’s photo from here : https://www.geni.com/people/Major-General-John-Wilson-Ruckman/6000000027525127663 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Hall Posted 21 February , 2020 Share Posted 21 February , 2020 16 minutes ago, Uncle George said: Yes indeed. They of the 1917 Houston Riot. Wiki spells 12272’s name as ‘Pickett’, and tells us he was sprung in 1935. Wiki is the source of his photo. Ruckman’s photo from here : https://www.geni.com/people/Major-General-John-Wilson-Ruckman/6000000027525127663 Ah, Pickett, That explains Knotty's clue. The only words I could think of at the time were "Patrol" and "Vadette" Neither could stand an extra "t" ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 21 February , 2020 Share Posted 21 February , 2020 (edited) Thanks guys & gals, just got back in. At least I was half way there with Camp Logan and Pickett, as for the other chap I was miles away. Edited 21 February , 2020 by Knotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 23 February , 2020 Share Posted 23 February , 2020 Pickett, eh? One thinks of Pickett’s Charge. This chap didn’t serve at Gettysburg - he was busy in the Western Theatre, prior to serving, a couple of months later, at Chickamauga. Anyway, who is he? ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 24 February , 2020 Share Posted 24 February , 2020 I'm not going to answer that, because you're really making it too easy right now... as the guy died RIGHT HERE in my new favorite American City. M. PS: the march was great !! PSS: we won "best military team" !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 27 February , 2020 Share Posted 27 February , 2020 (edited) Before I start searching for his name, is he the young drummer, who became a General ? Edited 27 February , 2020 by Knotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 28 February , 2020 Share Posted 28 February , 2020 19 hours ago, Knotty said: Before I start searching for his name, is he the young drummer, who became a General ? Yes - he was promoted to Major General in August 1916. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 28 February , 2020 Share Posted 28 February , 2020 Finally found him, (my own fault looking in the wrong place....the Confederate army), it is John Lincoln Clem (or Klem), allegedly only 10 or so when he went into combat at the battle of Shiloh, there is no substantial evidence that actually happen, however it is documented that he was at the battle Chickamauga as a drummer boy. His career took him through to 1915 and the rank of Brigadier General when he retired, but was again promoted to Major General in 1916. He passed away in 1937 age 85 and is buried in Marilyne’s new favourite town of San Antonio, all to be found here :- https://ohiohistorycentral.org/w/Johnny_Klem and here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Clem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 28 February , 2020 Share Posted 28 February , 2020 46 minutes ago, Knotty said: Finally found him, (my own fault looking in the wrong place....the Confederate army), it is John Lincoln Clem (or Klem), allegedly only 10 or so when he went into combat at the battle of Shiloh, there is no substantial evidence that actually happen, however it is documented that he was at the battle Chickamauga as a drummer boy. His career took him through to 1915 and the rank of Brigadier General when he retired, but was again promoted to Major General in 1916. He passed away in 1937 age 85 and is buried in Marilyne’s new favourite town of San Antonio, all to be found here :- https://ohiohistorycentral.org/w/Johnny_Klem and here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Clem Yes, that’s him. Image and story from here: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/mcnamarasblog/2011/09/johnny-clem-%e2%80%9cthe-drummer-boy-of-chickamauga%e2%80%9d.html He served in the Quartermaster Corps; so, to wrench this thread effing and blinding back on-topic - https://archive.org/details/quartermastercor00sharrich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 28 February , 2020 Share Posted 28 February , 2020 1 hour ago, Knotty said: Marilyne’s new favourite town of San Antonio, New favourite AMERICAN Town... there's much better on this side of the Atlantic... where I'm back at, by the way... M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 28 February , 2020 Share Posted 28 February , 2020 5 minutes ago, Marilyne said: New favourite AMERICAN Town Ok,ok missed out the American.....now wait for Biff to pipe up. Back safe and sound without any sniffles one hopes👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 3 March , 2020 Share Posted 3 March , 2020 (edited) I don't know if we have had this man before: An artist at work! Served in Warwickshire Regiment and Labour Corps. RM Will give source of picture later! Edited 3 March , 2020 by rolt968 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisonmallen62 Posted 3 March , 2020 Share Posted 3 March , 2020 Bruce Barnsfather? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 3 March , 2020 Share Posted 3 March , 2020 1 hour ago, rolt968 said: I don't know if we have had this man before: I don't think it matters much anymore, the thread has been going for so long and I can't remember who was posted last month. Looks an interesting one; E H Shepherd sprang to mind but he was RGA, and Alison's suggestion was my next thought, right regiment but wrong build somehow. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 3 March , 2020 Share Posted 3 March , 2020 The usual account is that he was invalided out. I have found his Medal Rolls and Pension Card and he seems to have served in the Labour Corps until about 1919. 21 minutes ago, Alisonmallen62 said: Bruce Barnsfather? 7 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: Looks an interesting one; E H Shepherd sprang to mind but he was RGA, and Alison's suggestion was my next thought, right regiment but wrong build somehow. The dog is quite significant. RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 4 March , 2020 Share Posted 4 March , 2020 Puppy and I by A A Milne? Officer in the Royal Warwickshire’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 4 March , 2020 Share Posted 4 March , 2020 I thought Milne served in Signals and later in Intelligence?? M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 4 March , 2020 Share Posted 4 March , 2020 12 hours ago, Knotty said: Puppy and I by A A Milne? Officer in the Royal Warwickshire’s No. The dog was a dachshund and featured in quite a lot of his art. RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 4 March , 2020 Share Posted 4 March , 2020 (edited) I have a recollection of a cartoonist who drew dachshunds but I'm completely incapable of remembering anything more. I have learned about how the breed became unpopular during the war but I fear I am I barking up the wrong tree (from very low down it, now I come to think about it). Pete. Edited 4 March , 2020 by Fattyowls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 4 March , 2020 Share Posted 4 March , 2020 25 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: I have a recollection of a cartoonist who drew dachshunds but I'm completely incapable of remembering anything more. I have learned about how the breed became unpopular during the war but I fear I am I barking up the wrong tree (from very low down it, now I come to think about it). Pete. This dachshund even had a German name. He drew it a lot during WW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 4 March , 2020 Share Posted 4 March , 2020 (edited) Is that Norman Pett? The creator of Jane? Edited 4 March , 2020 by Knotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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