neverforget Posted 23 March , 2020 Share Posted 23 March , 2020 Lady Dorothie Feilding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 23 March , 2020 Share Posted 23 March , 2020 Knotty's on the right path… M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 23 March , 2020 Share Posted 23 March , 2020 First U.K. Military Medal? as I believe the MC was only awarded to a nurse in WW2 and another in Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 March , 2020 Share Posted 23 March , 2020 Dorothie Feilding was the first female M.C. Phoebe Chapple was the first female doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 23 March , 2020 Share Posted 23 March , 2020 Well that’s blown my theory out of the water then😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 23 March , 2020 Share Posted 23 March , 2020 Phoebe Chappel was an Australian, so that leaves the Canadians, who’s first seven nurses and a Matron cited for the award of the MM in 1919 were,Matron Edith Campbell, Lenora Herrington, Lottie Urquhart & Janet Williamson of 1st Canadian General Hospital, Helen Hansen & Beatrice McNair of 7th Canadian General and Mary Meta Hodge & Eleanor Thompson of 3rd Stationary Hospital. Bet she is one of them, but not Herrington I have her picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 March , 2020 Share Posted 23 March , 2020 It was Meta Hodge. Marylin's "First" https://www.cbc.ca/2.7331/canadathestoryofus/wwi-how-two-wartime-nurses-became-the-first-canadian-women-to-win-the-military-medal-for-their-bravery-1.4086324 Strictly speaking she was first equal with Eleanor Thompson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 23 March , 2020 Share Posted 23 March , 2020 Bug ger, you beat me😡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 March , 2020 Share Posted 23 March , 2020 2 minutes ago, Knotty said: Bug ger, you beat me😡 I'd call it a draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 24 March , 2020 Share Posted 24 March , 2020 Good Morning on this fine 7th day of confinement… Yes, it's Meta… First Canadian to receive the MM. And yes, together with Eleanor Thompson, but there are no pics of her. What is interesting here - I'm reading up on the bombing of Doullens Nb 3 CSH - is that initially the Military Cross was requested for them by the Canadian authorities, because the Canadian nurses were officers: the nurses were lieutenants, their matron the first woman ever to hold the rank of Major. And so as junior officers they could have been entitled the MC. But the top brass Drew the line at the MM... a woman with an MC: SHOCKING !! Well done everybody!! M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 23 April , 2020 Share Posted 23 April , 2020 (edited) Time to resurrect before it goes off the radar Cannot find any reference in WIT (I may be wrong), so who is he and what is his significance. Edited 23 April , 2020 by Knotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 23 April , 2020 Share Posted 23 April , 2020 not sure… Brigadier general… am I seeing NZ rifles on the cap, or do I have a case of being too close to ANZAC day and so I see Aussies and Kiwis everywhere??? M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 23 April , 2020 Share Posted 23 April , 2020 Sorry M, not ANZAC related at all, so as a starter the first clue can be that he was Irish by birth. And yes a Brigadier General👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 23 April , 2020 Share Posted 23 April , 2020 Another clue then, he is a VC recipient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 24 April , 2020 Share Posted 24 April , 2020 hmmm… top of my head Charles Fitzclarence was Irish but his VC was Boer War … M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 24 April , 2020 Share Posted 24 April , 2020 Morning M And that he was an Irishman was my next clue. Well done Brigadier General Charles FitzClarence it is. Instrumental in holding the line at Gheluvelt, and sadly killed in Nov 14, his body never found he is the highest ranked officer recorded on the Menin Gate. Here is his wiki page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_FitzClarence John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 24 April , 2020 Share Posted 24 April , 2020 18 hours ago, Knotty said: the first clue can be that he was Irish by birth. Irish was your first clue… guess I was lucky… M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 24 April , 2020 Share Posted 24 April , 2020 (edited) On 23/04/2020 at 13:36, Knotty said: Time to resurrect before it goes off the radar Cannot find any reference in WIT (I may be wrong), so who is he and what is his significance. He's the spitting image of Brigadier F Earl Johnston, who lead the New Zealand Infantry Brigade at Gallipoli and, on the Western Front, the NZ 1st Inf Bde and briefly the NZ Rifle Brigade (which was a four battalion brigade formed of all the four battalions of the regiment known as The New Zealand Rifle Brigade - confusing if one is used to RB as used in the British Army). Although Kiwi-born, he was originally in the British Army in the North Staffs Regt and was on attachment in New Zealand at the outbreak of the War. He was killed by a sniper on 07 Aug 1917 opposite Warneton. Seen here at Krithia ... and his studio portraits from various of the NZ unit and official histories ... ... especially this one Are you sure your photo is of Brig. Fitzclarence, VC ? They could certainly be twins on appearance alone mind you! Mark Edited 24 April , 2020 by MBrockway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 24 April , 2020 Share Posted 24 April , 2020 Hi Mark Looks like a cock up on my behalf, however in my defence the image was taken from an invitation to attend a WFA meeting with one of our eminent scholars. It does explain why M was correct with her observation on the NZ badge, so apologies to you M Thanks for pointing it out Mark, must remember to check before send.😁 John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 24 April , 2020 Share Posted 24 April , 2020 (edited) You have to admit they're like two peas, so it's an understandable mistake! Gheluvelt has of course special resonance for us Kiddy chaps Edited 24 April , 2020 by MBrockway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 24 April , 2020 Share Posted 24 April , 2020 29 minutes ago, MBrockway said: Gheluvelt has of course special resonance for us Kiddy chaps With good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 24 April , 2020 Share Posted 24 April , 2020 In the little picture contained in the tweet that Knotty included you can see a gate. It's now in the trees to the left of this picture roughly between the third and fourth street lamp down the road before the house. The rebuilt chateau is behind the trees on the left, the Worcesters were advancing left to right and the viewpoint is looking ENE from just by the South Wales Borderers memorial next to the Worcesters one. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 24 April , 2020 Share Posted 24 April , 2020 Back in Blighty, here's some material on Gheluvelt Park in Worcester - Gheluvelt Park, Worcester - History (BBC, 2009) It's an old webpage and the link to the Pathé newsreel of the opening in 1922 is broken. Here's the correct link ... John French opening Gheluvelt Park, Worcester, 1922 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 24 April , 2020 Share Posted 24 April , 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, MBrockway said: You have to admit they're like two peas, so it's an understandable mistake! Very much alike but still a silly mistake by me 1 hour ago, MBrockway said: Gheluvelt has of course special resonance for us Kiddy chaps Take it your a Kiddy man then? Anything to do with the carpet manufacturer of the same name as yourself😁 John Edited 24 April , 2020 by Knotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 24 April , 2020 Share Posted 24 April , 2020 1 hour ago, Fattyowls said: the viewpoint is looking ENE from just by the South Wales Borderers memorial next to the Worcesters one. Hi Pete Is there anywhere on the Western Front you haven’t taken a picture ? Hope your keeping well John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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