Fattyowls Posted 24 May , 2020 Share Posted 24 May , 2020 8 hours ago, seaJane said: What my friend calls the "unplaisance" That's certainly one word for it. Others slightly less eliptical and graphic are available. But lets not go there (metaphorically or physically). I have an inkling about your man, but I need to raise its status from an inkling to a likelyhood. This could take time and more coffee....... Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 24 May , 2020 Admin Share Posted 24 May , 2020 14 hours ago, seaJane said: Is that Lady Ottoline Morrell? Lady Utterly Immoral as she was also called........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 24 May , 2020 Share Posted 24 May , 2020 seaJane #13149, is he wearing a Kriegsmarine uniform of WW2 vintage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 24 May , 2020 Share Posted 24 May , 2020 13 minutes ago, Knotty said: seaJane #13149, is he wearing a Kriegsmarine uniform of WW2 vintage? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 24 May , 2020 Share Posted 24 May , 2020 Is he Luetjens, he of the ‘Bismarck’ (my image from Getty) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 24 May , 2020 Share Posted 24 May , 2020 11 hours ago, seaJane said: What my friend calls the "unplaisance" Is that the same as the "unpleasance" which turns up in Sellar and Yeatman's "Garden Rubbbish"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 24 May , 2020 Share Posted 24 May , 2020 (edited) If UG is not correct then I will go for the other well known seafarer Captain Hans Langsdorff of the Admiral Graf Spee. In the action known as the Battle of the River Plate, being out gunned and out numbered, he took his own life, a few days after ordering the cruiser to be scuttled in the waters off Montevideo in order she did not fall into British hands. Edited 24 May , 2020 by Knotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 24 May , 2020 Share Posted 24 May , 2020 @rolt968 probably! @Knotty correct: Wiki it saith, Langsdorff entered the Kiel Naval Academy against his parents' wishes in 1912, and as Lieutenant Langsdorff received the Iron Cross 2nd Class for his actions at Jutland, He worked on minesweepers for the rest of the war, receiving the Iron Cross 1st Class at some point (the exact date is unknown). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 24 May , 2020 Share Posted 24 May , 2020 7 minutes ago, seaJane said: Langsdorff To quote legendary Formula 1 commentator Murray Walker (described I think by the late great Clive James as the man who talks in block capitals) - "UNLESS I AM VERY MUCH MISTAKEN! YES! I AM, VERY MUCH MISTAKEN". I thought it was Raeder, but what do I know? Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 24 May , 2020 Share Posted 24 May , 2020 Of who is this said to be a Portrait ? ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted 24 May , 2020 Share Posted 24 May , 2020 3 hours ago, Fattyowls said: To quote legendary Formula 1 commentator Murray Walker (described I think by the late great Clive James as the man who talks in block capitals) - "UNLESS I AM VERY MUCH MISTAKEN! YES! I AM, VERY MUCH MISTAKEN". I thought it was Raeder, but what do I know? Pete. Ah, Murray Walker. The man who spoke as though his trousers were on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scorer Posted 25 May , 2020 Share Posted 25 May , 2020 11 hours ago, Uncle George said: Of who is this said to be a Portrait ? ? ? I have no idea why, as I've never seen it before, but the first name that came to my mind was Baron Manfred Von Richtofen …. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 25 May , 2020 Share Posted 25 May , 2020 1 hour ago, The Scorer said: I have no idea why, as I've never seen it before, but the first name that came to my mind was Baron Manfred Von Richtofen …. ! Not him, no: but it is of a German officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scorer Posted 25 May , 2020 Share Posted 25 May , 2020 30 minutes ago, Uncle George said: Not him, no: but it is of a German officer. Thanks … exit stage left, intrigued! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 25 May , 2020 Share Posted 25 May , 2020 Got him! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portrait_of_a_German_Officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 25 May , 2020 Share Posted 25 May , 2020 8 minutes ago, jonbem said: Got him! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portrait_of_a_German_Officer Yes. The artist, Marsden Hartley, was an American whose sympathies lay squarely with the Central Powers. In 1914 he found himself in Berlin, and he created this ‘Portrait of a German Officer’ - his friend and possible lover Karl von Freyberg, who was killed in 1914. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 27 May , 2020 Share Posted 27 May , 2020 (edited) This is part of a family group photo taken about 1911. This boy (who served in WW1) is sitting between his parents. There are three elder brothers in the photo. One was killed in WW1 another having won the MC in WW1 became very famous later in life. The famous brother looked so unlike anyone else in his family that there were occasional questions about his parentage. RM Edited 27 May , 2020 by rolt968 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 29 May , 2020 Share Posted 29 May , 2020 there you have it… gone for two weeks and this turns into abstract painting / society gossip / detective work… I need to catch up!! Looks like your boy was a bit clumsy… does he have a broken arm on the picture?? M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 29 May , 2020 Share Posted 29 May , 2020 1 minute ago, Marilyne said: there you have it… gone for two weeks and this turns into abstract painting / society gossip / detective work… I need to catch up!! Looks like your boy was a bit clumsy… does he have a broken arm on the picture?? M. I had assumed that he had broken his arm but don't know. The famous elder brother would be about fourteen at the time of this photo. There was never any real reason for doubting his parentage. The family accounted for his difference in features by saying that he was the only sibling who took after his mother's family. I think I can see some similar features in the boy to those of the famous elder brother - at least as he appears in the family photo. There are no postwar photos of the boy. He was killed in action. RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 29 May , 2020 Share Posted 29 May , 2020 One of the Llewelyn-Davies brothers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 29 May , 2020 Share Posted 29 May , 2020 59 minutes ago, seaJane said: One of the Llewelyn-Davies brothers? No, but he has something in common with one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 29 May , 2020 Share Posted 29 May , 2020 At the time of his death, had he been serving in the other service (still only two) he would have been underage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 31 May , 2020 Share Posted 31 May , 2020 Killed in action 104 years ago today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 31 May , 2020 Share Posted 31 May , 2020 (edited) Is it (William) Nicholas Eden? Younger brother of Anthony. Nicholas was killed in the battle of Jutland. Edited 31 May , 2020 by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 31 May , 2020 Share Posted 31 May , 2020 That’s a good shout NF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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