Postcards

[Jerry B]

1 hour ago, GWF1967 said:

I purchased the other two ( and saved images of your two cards!).

 I have another copy of card 1, its a different exposure and not so clear;  it was on my desk when I spotted the cards for sale online. I had recently shared them with relatives in Australia.

I have posted cards 3+4 previously (2019).

 

 

amazing how his pc's seem to have been shared so widely.  glad the others went to a good home, I did not want to get into a bidding war on them

[FROGSMILE]

40 minutes ago, Jerry B said:

 

amazing how his pc's seem to have been shared so widely.  glad the others went to a good home, I did not want to get into a bidding war on them

Yes, I’m really curious as to whether the family in Canada sold them or if they came from the U.K.

Edited 22 August , 2020 by FROGSMILE

[Jerry B]

15 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said:

Yes, I’m really curious as to whether the family in Canada sold them or if they came from the U.K.

bought from ebay in the UK, from two different sellers!

Edited 22 August , 2020 by Jerry B

[FROGSMILE]

4 minutes ago, Jerry B said:

bought from ebay in the UK, from two different sellers!

Thank you. How very odd, especially simultaneously. 

[Dragoon]

5 hours ago, Jerry B said:

 

 

picked up two more pc's to him, sadly missed two others, though I did save the images

Love these Pembroke Yeomanry photos! Thank you for sharing.

 

Chris

1 minute ago, Dragoon said:

 

 

1 hour ago, Jerry B said:

bought from ebay in the UK, from two different sellers!

And these, brilliant👍🏻

Edited 22 August , 2020 by Dragoon

[Jerry B]

2 hours ago, Dragoon said:

Love these Pembroke Yeomanry photos! Thank you for sharing.

 

Chris

 

And these, brilliant👍🏻

glad to see they are appreciated

[WhiteStarLine]

On 21/08/2020 at 20:37, FROGSMILE said:

Do you know if they were specialised units doing only that, or did they also gallop along doing ground line laying too?  I’d like to ascertain if they were entirely different units.

Sorry for a tardy reply.  They were in the same company but completely different sections (signal companies were large organisations compared with infantry companies).  However, similar skills as you can see from the section makeup:

 

[FROGSMILE]

3 minutes ago, WhiteStarLine said:

Sorry for a tardy reply.  They were in the same company but completely different sections (signal companies were large organisations compared with infantry companies).  However, similar skills as you can see from the section makeup:

 

 

Brilliant!  Thank you, I had often wondered and that’s now crystal clear. 👍

 

NB.  I am especially interested to see the presence of pioneers on the establishment. 

Edited 23 August , 2020 by FROGSMILE

[Jerry B]

a photo rather than a pc, un-named officer of the welsh horse

[Kimberley John Lindsay]

Dear All,

Also a photo rather than a postcard.

Lieut W. F. Lindsay, 53rd Battalion, Australian Imperial Force.

Later Coy Cdr "D" Coy; wounded 1 Sep 1918 (MC).

Kindest regards,

Kim.

[Kimberley John Lindsay]

Dear All,

This one is in fact a Postcard (but nothing written on the back):-

Lieutenant William Frederic Lindsay, AIF, on leave in Paris 1918. My grandfather (1880-1940): CMF Lieut.-Col., MC, ED.

Kindest regards,

Kim.

[The Inspector]

10 hours ago, Jerry B said:

a photo rather than a pc, un-named officer of the welsh horse

Hi All

This man looks very similar. John Julian Boyd-Harvey. Welsh Horse, RFC/RAF.

Regards Barry

[Jerry B]

8 hours ago, The Inspector said:

Hi All

This man looks very similar. John Julian Boyd-Harvey. Welsh Horse, RFC/RAF.

Regards Barry

thanks Barry

 

perhaps, but not a match imo.  I have a pic of him as a young man.  he does not seem to appear in the welsh horse album https://www.peoplescollection.wales/collections/536783

[Kimberley John Lindsay]

Dear All,

The ears on the quite handsome Welch Horse Officer (and delightful-looking Boy), are strangely elongated.

Whereas the ear of the less-handsome Welch Horse Officer Boyd-Harvey is small and perfectly-formed.

Having said that, the 'look', the mouth and the chin are pretty close!

Kindest regards,

Kim.

[The Inspector]

Hi Jerry,

? John Julian Boyd-Harvey was in the Welsh Horse, entered theatre 2B, 8.10.15, the album was created in 2016. I am puzzled.

Regards Barry

[Jerry B]

16 minutes ago, The Inspector said:

Hi Jerry,

? John Julian Boyd-Harvey was in the Welsh Horse, entered theatre 2B, 8.10.15, the album was created in 2016. I am puzzled.

Regards Barry

the album was uploaded in 2016 to the archive, it was originally created august 15 1914

[The Inspector]

Thanks Jerry,

Barry.

[Toby Brayley]

Unsent postcard of some London Scottish. Some nice details here; 1st pattern straight tabbed 1908 Web Equipment, 2nd pattern Haversacks and 1st pattern Waterbottle Carrier. CLLES with P1888 bayonets. At the back is a very rare shot (and evidence of late use) of the "Bag, Ammunition, Canvas, Mk IV" (or similar pre Mk V variant). 

 

[Toby Brayley]

on the subject of the ammuntion waistcoat back in march I posted...

 

"The Buffs off to Chobham"

 

Unsent postcard annotated on the rear "Just off out on a field day for the King, it is a lovely day & thousands of people. Jack. I don't know if you would recognise me so have marked X" (Sergeant front smoking pipe). 

 

 

 

The "Bag, Ammunition, Canvas, Mk V" generated plenty of discussion. Since then I have been most fortunate enough to acquire one and here it is in the flesh. 

 

The MkV was introduced in April 1898, by LoC 9067. Judging by the alterations to this particular "vest", I believe it is an altered Mk IV brought up to the specification as laid down in the above LoC.

The vest is designed to carry the 10 round packeted .303 ammunition to the firing line, where it can be easily distributed. The MkV is secured with two front twill tapes and one on the rear, so if needed it can be tied behind the wearer. It can be worn over equipment.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 2 September , 2020 by Toby Brayley

[FROGSMILE]

That's a super acquisition Toby.  Thank you for posting the images.  It's not a carrier that I had seen before and seems to have been replaced by the disposable bandolier?  It's interesting that there's sufficient superficial similarity with the WW2 commando assault vest/jerkin to make me wonder if this carrier was its inspiration.

Edited 2 September , 2020 by FROGSMILE

[Sepoy]

1 hour ago, Toby Brayley said:

on the subject of the ammuntion waistcoat back in march I posted...

 

"The Buffs off to Chobham"

 

Unsent postcard annotated on the rear "Just off out on a field day for the King, it is a lovely day & thousands of people. Jack. I don't know if you would recognise me so have marked X" (Sergeant front smoking pipe). 

 

 

 

The "Bag, Ammunition, Canvas, Mk V" generated plenty of discussion. Since then I have been most fortunate enough to acquire one and here it is in the flesh. 

 

The MkV was introduced in April 1898, by LoC 9067. Judging by the alterations to this particular "vest", I believe it is an altered Mk IV brought up to the specification as laid down in the above LoC.

The vest is designed to carry the 10 round packeted .303 ammunition to the firing line, where it can be easily distributed. The MkV is secured with two front twill tapes and one on the rear, so if needed it can be tied behind the wearer. It can be worn over equipment.

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you for posting this Toby, it is most interesting to see an actual example.

Regretfully, I am currently unable to gain access to my copies of Skennerton's List of Changes, which I assume cover Ammunition waistcoats.

I have attached a photograph which shows a similar waistcoat being worn by a member of the 25th (Country of London) Cyclist Battalion, London Regiment during Indian field training in 1917. I do not know what Mk this waistcoat is.

Edited 2 September , 2020 by Sepoy

[Sepoy]

Another example taken from the same series of photographs.

[Toby Brayley]

10 hours ago, Sepoy said:

Another example taken from the same series of photographs.

 

 

Sepoy , thank you for these brilliant shots some of the clearest I have seen (and I have only come across a  handful). It appear to have a double tie at the front so that will make it a MkV at the very least.  Skennerton's List of Changes do indeed cover the LoCs for the Ammunition vests, I have yet had a look at the Great War era as I thought they would be long gone by then, but alas no! 

[FROGSMILE]

It would be interesting to know when the carrier was officially declared 'obsolescent'.  It doesn't surprise me to see them still being used by TF units in India, the establishment there tended to retain old kit for much longer, as long as it was still functional, and as no flimsy cotton bandoliers are visible, I suspect that 'ready' ammunition was still carried in cartons there.

Edited 3 September , 2020 by FROGSMILE

[Pat Atkins]

Can I ask a  rather general question about TF kit of the period, inspired by the London Scottish pc? As such I think it's within the sphere of this thread, though I admit it's pretty peripheral - apologies if not, of course.

 

In cases where an item/items of clothing was surely more costly than standard uniform (like those kilts, presumably), who paid for it? Army? Battalion? Individual? I don't mean any idiosyncratic augmentations, which I understand might be funded by the men themselves and/or their officers at a low unit level. But, for example, who paid for a TF soldier's kilt?