FROGSMILE Posted 14 June , 2020 Share Posted 14 June , 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, RNCVR said: What is the badge above his Cpl chevrons pls? His MIC should reveal if he was entitled to both medals. I understand that the victory medal automatically goes to someone who has one of either, both a star and war medal, or just the latter. Edited 14 June , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNCVR Posted 14 June , 2020 Share Posted 14 June , 2020 Yes, if he qualified for either 1914 or 1914-15 star he automatically qualified for the BWM & VM. The BWM could be awarded alone but not the VM. RN ratings called up for 1WW, if they did 28 days ashore qualified for the BWM only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNCVR Posted 14 June , 2020 Share Posted 14 June , 2020 Thanks for the ID on the 3rd Division insignia Froggie, Best....Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 14 June , 2020 Share Posted 14 June , 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, RNCVR said: Yes, if he qualified for either 1914 or 1914-15 star he automatically qualified for the BWM & VM. The BWM could be awarded alone but not the VM. RN ratings called up for 1WW, if they did 28 days ashore qualified for the BWM only. Understood. Clearly this man, who served in both Notts&Derby and MGC, had served long enough to receive both, war and victory medals. Edited 14 June , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNCVR Posted 14 June , 2020 Share Posted 14 June , 2020 What is indicated on his MIC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Topham Posted 14 June , 2020 Share Posted 14 June , 2020 1 minute ago, RNCVR said: What is indicated on his MIC? I have been told the below is his MIC. My cousin was told William was in the 3rd division (also supposedly the 3rd battalion) and was part of the Occupational Army in Cologne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 14 June , 2020 Share Posted 14 June , 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Graham Topham said: I have been told the below is his MIC. My cousin was told William was in the 3rd division (also supposedly the 3rd battalion) and was part of the Occupational Army in Cologne. He is entitled to both, War Medal and Victory Medal as anticipated. His appearance in the photograph suggests a photo during the occupation (Cologne Area) and 3rd Div matches his formation patch. The Divisional Machine Gun Battalion was indeed 3rd Bn MGC. The numbers matched from the point that they were established as a battalion comprising the former Brigade Machine Gun Companies within the division (just as the companies had borne their brigade numbers). Unfortunately his Notts&Derby battalion is not shown on the MIC, but it might be recorded on the Medal Roll that links with the Medal Index Card. If the connection with service in Ireland is correct then I think his initial WW1 service was with 2/6th Battalion TF, as mentioned previously. Edited 14 June , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNCVR Posted 14 June , 2020 Share Posted 14 June , 2020 He is entitled to both BWM & VM. The do do means ditto. Pretty certain MGC signifies his unit was Machine Gun Corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorporalPunishment Posted 14 June , 2020 Share Posted 14 June , 2020 2 hours ago, RNCVR said: William Leivers --- Appears to be the British War medal. Thanks for posting. Yes, I can see it now, the faint difference between the white stripes and the light blue stripes, plus the fact that the orange centre always shows up very dark in these old images. That would date the photo to between the introduction of the War Medal in July 1919 and the introduction of the Victory Medal in September 1919. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themonsstar Posted 17 June , 2020 Share Posted 17 June , 2020 I bought this postcard album a few years ago most of the cards are views are of Dulman PoW camp in Germany, not to far from Munster. I suspect the original owner may have been a Scottish soldier/ PoW. Some of them I've been able to identify as being PoW and at Dulman camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themonsstar Posted 17 June , 2020 Share Posted 17 June , 2020 A lot of the cards relate to the PoW theatre. This postcard is of 150361 Gnr Stanley Radcliffe RGA. Trade on enlistment Actor. Born Blyth Captured at Cambrai 30/11/1917 Camps Le Quesney & Dulman. Mackintosh & Cornish. S.Stuart. Victor B. Hawkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themonsstar Posted 17 June , 2020 Share Posted 17 June , 2020 Law. Veal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themonsstar Posted 17 June , 2020 Share Posted 17 June , 2020 (edited) This next lot of postcards are in Pow uniform. This 1st one is a French soldier Drecg Jules. 5407 Pte Arthur H. Smallbridge. 11th Bn royal Fusiliers. Captured at Cherrissy 3/5/1917. Camps Limburg & Dulman. 322836 Sapper Thomas M. Brisbane. 36th Light Railway. Douglas Street, Stirling. Edited 17 June , 2020 by themonsstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themonsstar Posted 17 June , 2020 Share Posted 17 June , 2020 (edited) 241854 Pte Clarence Harold, Hancock. 1/8th Bn att A Company 4th Bn Middlesex Regiment. Captured at Ypres 25th Sept 1917. Camps Dendermonde & Dulman. John Webster and two pics from his cousins.His cap badge could be The Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders or The KOSB Edited 17 June , 2020 by themonsstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 17 June , 2020 Share Posted 17 June , 2020 (edited) Poignant photos. John Webster is wearing a KOSB cap badge. The fact that he kept the photos sent by his cousin gives an inkling of how much that female contact from home must have meant to him. Interesting to see Pte Hancock wearing the Geneva Cross badge on his jacket contrary to regulations (the badge was meant for RAMC only) as sometimes occurred with men attached to the Battalion RAP under the RMO. Edited 17 June , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themonsstar Posted 17 June , 2020 Share Posted 17 June , 2020 Cheers Mr Frog. (5521) 332402 A/Sgt Roy MacPherson 3/9th & 1st Bn HLI. Captured at Fontaine 20/5/1917. Sgt David S.Norrie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FROGSMILE Posted 17 June , 2020 Share Posted 17 June , 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, themonsstar said: I bought this postcard album a few years ago most of the cards are views are of Dulman PoW camp in Germany, not to far from Munster. I suspect the original owner may have been a Scottish soldier/ PoW. Some of them I've been able to identify as being PoW and at Dulman camp. I think that Dulmen has had quite a long connection with the British Army. I’m not sure but I think there might have been a base there during the Rhine Area occupation 1918-1929. There was certainly a very large RAOC storage depot there as part of the British Army of the Rhine from 1945 until 2016 (Tower Bks being the last to close there), and I’ve often wondered if the barracks or storage depot were on the site of the WW1 POW lager. Generations of British soldiers married girls from Dulmen and there was a close relationship with the town. I don’t know if Dulmen has a museum but I’d be surprised if it doesn’t based on my experience of other German towns. It occurred to me after seeing your photos how much such a museum would appreciate having copies to put on display. Such photos emerging from family bereavements in Britain are unlikely to have been duplicated or retained in Germany, especially after all the destruction of WW2, and yet it is a part of their history too. It would be great for them to be on display in the town where it all occurrred over 100-years ago. NB. Sennelager, also once the site of POW camps during WW1, is now the sole remaining British Army base in Germany and being retained as an enabling toe hold should there be a need to redeploy there in any emerging emergency. Edited 17 June , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 17 June , 2020 Share Posted 17 June , 2020 15 minutes ago, themonsstar said: Cheers Mr Frog. (5521) 332402 A/Sgt Roy MacPherson 3/9th & 1st Bn HLI. Captured at Fontaine 20/5/1917. Sgt David S.Norrie. 9th HLI were dressed very similarly to the Black Watch, including kilt and badge, and that is what Macpherson is wearing in this case. Conversely 1st HLI wore trews or drab trousers and their own regimental badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 17 June , 2020 Share Posted 17 June , 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, themonsstar said: Both these photos give relatively rare views of a soldier of the ‘South African Scottish’. In the first photo he appears to have come straight from the line and you can see that he has two wound stripes on his left cuff. In the second photo he is dressed for walking-out of barracks/camp lines, complete with collar badges, shoulder title, sporran and swagger stuck, as per regulation. He has clearly made an effort for this portrait photo. It’s a pity that his name is not recorded on the backs. The battalion (4th SA Infantry) was in action at: • Egypt 1916 • Somme 1916 • Delville Wood • Arras 1917 • Ypres 1917 • Menin Road • Messines 1918 • Hindenburg Line • Cambrai 1918 • Pursuit to Mons • France and Flanders 1918 • Le Transloy • Scarpe 1917 • Kemmel • Lys The battalion was virtually wiped out during the German Spring offensive of March 1918, but was reconstituted in sufficient time to take part in the last 100 days and victory. Edited 17 June , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themonsstar Posted 17 June , 2020 Share Posted 17 June , 2020 (edited) I was based in Munster from 1985-1989 which also had its own PoW camps. Thank you for your in site and research. Roy Edited 17 June , 2020 by themonsstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 17 June , 2020 Share Posted 17 June , 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, themonsstar said: I was based in Munster from 1985-1989 which also had its own PoW camps. Thank you for your in site and research. Roy Glad to contribute Roy. Thank you for sharing the photos. Do you want to try and contact a museum in Dulmen? I will help you if you would like that. Edited 17 June , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry B Posted 18 June , 2020 Share Posted 18 June , 2020 some more recent pick ups, first a fine pre war asc nco with twisted shoulder cords and cloth titles or flashes just visible, with his pipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry B Posted 18 June , 2020 Share Posted 18 June , 2020 Rifle brigade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themonsstar Posted 18 June , 2020 Share Posted 18 June , 2020 (edited) For your enjoyment. Some from the ASC I my have posted one or two before. Edited 18 June , 2020 by themonsstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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