Postcards

[themonsstar]

One from the Artillery other ?  

[themonsstar]

8th (National Reserve) battalion Manchester Regiment

Unknown Pioneer Battalion 

[GWF1967]

On 3 May 2019 at 06:26, FROGSMILE said:

 

Great preponderance of simplified jackets, new leather equipment and p05 caps implies that the location is Bedford, whence the 7th Battalion were sent in May 1915.

Many thanks. 

[Muerrisch]

A RAMC roughrider sergeant must be a rare beast indeed ...... given that the ASC were responsible for the transport and protection of Field Ambulances. Very interesting thank you.

[FROGSMILE]

2 hours ago, Muerrisch said:

A RAMC roughrider sergeant must be a rare beast indeed ...... given that the ASC were responsible for the transport and protection of Field Ambulances. Very interesting thank you.

 

I suspect that like a lot of specialists in departmental corps, he transferred in from the RA, cavalry, or ASC.  I can see no justification for an RAMC Sergeant to devote the necessary time away from core medical duties that would have been necessary to qualify as a Roughrider.

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[Muerrisch]

I agree. As an insurance policy "never say never" I will have a look at the pay warrant to see if rough rider allowance could be claimed in the RAMC ........... there are some strange little extra payments lurking in the fine print!

Like you, I doubt it.

 

[FROGSMILE]

58 minutes ago, Muerrisch said:

I agree. As an insurance policy "never say never" I will have a look at the pay warrant to see if rough rider allowance could be claimed in the RAMC ........... there are some strange little extra payments lurking in the fine print!

Like you, I doubt it.

 

 

My caveat would be that the allowance might well be payable within the RAMC I should imagine.  My point is not that the post wouldn’t be authorised on an RAMC establishment, but just that the appointee would have to be already qualified and transfer in.  Such a concept has long existed and a relatively recent example would be the Military Skills Instructors of the RAOC and RCT, who were also transferees, generally from the infantry.  It was the only way to gain a man with the necessary skill set, built up necessarily over an extensive period of service.

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[Jools mckenna]

RAMC. Sept 19th 1915.

[FROGSMILE]

38 minutes ago, Jools mckenna said:

RAMC. Sept 19th 1915.

 

 

Very interesting to see RAMC Regimental cooks wearing the Red Cross on their kitchen whites, I did not know that was practiced.

Edited 5 May , 2019 by FROGSMILE

[Jools mckenna]

The man sitting down looks like Gloucestershire regiment and the man on the left could be RE or ASC(?). Any guesses on the regiment of the scot?

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[Muerrisch]

2 hours ago, FROGSMILE said:

 

My caveat would be that the allowance might well be payable within the RAMC I should imagine.  My point is not that the post wouldn’t be authorised on an RAMC establishment, but just that the appointee would have to be already qualified and transfer in.  Such a concept has long existed and a relatively recent example would be the Military Skills Instructors of the RAOC and RCT, who were also transferees, generally from the infantry.  It was the only way to gain a man with the necessary skill set, built up necessarily over an extensive period of service.

 

The Pay Warrant 1913 allows rough rider pay for cavalry, and horse ,field and garrison artillery. Surprised ASC and RE not included. 

6d a day extra.

It seems to have been a secondary but important duty for men taken from the sabre squadrons, batteries etc, and thus not a "staff" appointment for the sergeant.

 

Not on Establishments of any corps so far as the warrant tells us.

Ron Clifton may know better.

 

 

[Ghazala]

A high street photographer's shop and studio. A number of postcards are on display on the back of the doors and in the windows The proprietor was 'B. C. Flemons and the location was 91 High Street, Tonbridge.' Written on the back of the card was this - "Trooper A.E. Wright & Pals. 2/1 Lincoln Yeomanry, Tonbridge, kent. 1917."

[Ghazala]

On 22/07/2013 at 19:53, tn.drummond said:

Sad and odd - given the youthful appearance of both women (and the backdrop of the cemetery) are we to assume they're about to lay these memorials on behalf of other's or have they just been removed for preservation.

Any indications on reverse ?

Fascinating image.

Tim

 

I put this picture up in 2013 and tn.drummond posted his query.  Is he still around I wonder?   Here is an updste..

 

Two members of the Women's Auxiliary Army Corps carrying wreaths to place on the graves of British soldiers buried at Abbeville on The Somme.  The wreath on the left reads "Une Amie" which could perhaps indicate that it is from a French girl to a soldier.
 

[FROGSMILE]

1 hour ago, Muerrisch said:

 

The Pay Warrant 1913 allows rough rider pay for cavalry, and horse ,field and garrison artillery. Surprised ASC and RE not included. 

6d a day extra.

It seems to have been a secondary but important duty for men taken from the sabre squadrons, batteries etc, and thus not a "staff" appointment for the sergeant.

 

Not on Establishments of any corps so far as the warrant tells us.

Ron Clifton may know better.

 

 

 

Interesting and puzzling in equal measure.  Thank you for looking and reporting back.

[Pat Atkins]

2 hours ago, Jools mckenna said:

The man sitting down looks like Gloucestershire regiment and the man on the left could be RE or ASC(?). Any guesses on the regiment of the scot?

Dunno, but he's got collar dogs - Canadian, maybe? Can't really see on my phone.

 

Pat

[Jools mckenna]

1 minute ago, Pat Atkins said:

Dunno, but he's got collar dogs - Canadian, maybe? Can't really see on my phone.

 

Pat

Did Canadians wear kilts?

[FROGSMILE]

14 minutes ago, Jools mckenna said:

Did Canadians wear kilts?

 

Yes, in traditional plaid, plain khaki, and khaki with an over stripe.

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[Jools mckenna]

Oh, that's interesting. 

[FROGSMILE]

29 minutes ago, Jools mckenna said:

Oh, that's interesting. 

 

You will find lots of detailed information on that subject if you search within the forum.

[Jools mckenna]

1 hour ago, FROGSMILE said:

 

You will find lots of detailed information on that subject if you search within the forum.

Any idea on the regiment of the Canadian in my photo?

 

4 hours ago, Jools mckenna said:

3 hours ago, Jools mckenna said:

 

 

[FROGSMILE]

It looks to me like the 43rd Canadian Infantry Regiment (Canadian Highlanders of Canada): https://thequeensowncameronhighlandersofcanada.net/regiment/the_great_war.html

Edited 5 May , 2019 by FROGSMILE

[Jools mckenna]

Thanks, Frogsmile. 

[FROGSMILE]

2 minutes ago, Jools mckenna said:

Thanks, Frogsmile. 

 

Looking again I’m not so sure.  The Cameron’s generally wore a plain blue glengarry whereas this one is diced.  There is no white over stripe on the kilt so not I think the Seaforths.  The plaid doesn’t look like Black Watch.  Perhaps then Gordon’s.  It needs a Canadian expert.

[Rob Bulloch]

No expert by any stretch of the imagination, I think it is 48th Highlanders of Canada. It is quite a large badge and the dicing also matches. the tartan set  is also close.

Cheers Rob.B

 

Edited 6 May , 2019 by Rob Bulloch

[FROGSMILE]

7 hours ago, Rob Bulloch said:

No expert by any stretch of the imagination, I think it is 48th Highlanders of Canada. It is quite a large badge and the dicing also matches. the tartan set  is also close.

Cheers Rob.B

 

 

Yes, I think you have it Rob, the 48th were the parent unit and had the close association with the Gordon’s.   They sent three battalions overseas, of which the first was the 15th, which deployed to France & Flanders.  The other two provided reinforcements from Britain as the 92nd and 134th Battalions.  They all wore variations of the 48th Highlander’s pre-war cap badge.   Apparently they wore the Davidson sett as kilt.

 

 

Edited 6 May , 2019 by FROGSMILE