GWF1967 Posted 9 February , 2018 Share Posted 9 February , 2018 " Hants Brigade Coy: A.S.C. (T.F.) Bulford Camp" Posted. Salisbury; 10/7/12. to. Miss A(my) Stokes. Newport Rd. Aldershot. Hants. - Yours, Frank. 7th Battalion Hampshire Regiment . Posted Salisbury; 10/7/12. to Mr Sam Sudbury. W.S. Home. Enshott? Camp. Farnham. Surrey. - So ta ta, Fred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 13 February , 2018 Share Posted 13 February , 2018 Hi, German Pionier with saw-tooth bayonet A colleague told me that it is a 84/98 new form with saw. The Pioniere in 1915 got 10 S84/98 n.A.S per company, GreyC Seitengewehr 84/98 neuer Art Säge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenchtrotter Posted 13 February , 2018 Author Share Posted 13 February , 2018 Look time no see. I haven't posted in this thread for awhile. 215 pages, getting to be a record for GWF. Here is one from my collection. TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmfinch Posted 13 February , 2018 Share Posted 13 February , 2018 On 16 January 2018 at 22:02, GWF1967 said: Limber Gunners. 107th Battery Royal Field Artillery. The Bombardier, right hand end, has 3 good conduct stripe and an Artificer's badge, the man behind a Gun Layer's badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmfinch Posted 13 February , 2018 Share Posted 13 February , 2018 No.49003 (11144) Acting Sergeant Harry Kilmister. Born in Cheltenham, He enlisted with the 7th Gloucestershire Regiment on 31st Aug 1914 and fought at Gallipoli, where he was a survivor of the attempt to take Chunuk Bair. Recuperated in Egypt, but transferred to the Royal Defence Corps with a 20% disability. Survived the war and died at the age of 77 in Cheltenham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 13 February , 2018 Share Posted 13 February , 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, trenchtrotter said: Look time no see. I haven't posted in this thread for awhile. 215 pages, getting to be a record for GWF. Here is one from my collection. TT Nice card. we've been keeping your thread warm for you. Edited 13 February , 2018 by GWF1967 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmfinch Posted 13 February , 2018 Share Posted 13 February , 2018 Harry's younger brother No. PS 2894 Private Reginald Kilmister of the Royal Fusiliers (Public Schools). Landed in France 14 Nov 1915. Wounded 1916, but thankfully survived the war. Both Harry and Reginald were sons of Mr and Mrs W H Kilmister of 10 Priory Terrace, Cheltenham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 13 February , 2018 Share Posted 13 February , 2018 42 minutes ago, wmfinch said: No.49003 (11144) Acting Sergeant Harry Kilmister. Born in Cheltenham, He enlisted with the 7th Gloucestershire Regiment on 31st Aug 1914 and fought at Gallipoli, where he was a survivor of the attempt to take Chunuk Bair. Recuperated in Egypt, but transferred to the Royal Defence Corps with a 20% disability. Survived the war and died at the age of 77 in Cheltenham. His cap badge does not appear to be either Gloucestershire Regt, or RDC, which seems odd given the history you have outlined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loader Posted 14 February , 2018 Share Posted 14 February , 2018 2 hours ago, GWF1967 said: Nice card. we've been keeping your thread warm for you. Interesting photo. Looks to be a Pte in the MGC armed with a pistol which makes sense as part of a gun crew a rifle would have been in the way if he was ammo carrier or fired the gun. Thanks for posting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 14 February , 2018 Share Posted 14 February , 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 21:59, GWF1967 said: " Hants Brigade Coy: A.S.C. (T.F.) Bulford Camp" Posted. Salisbury; 10/7/12. to. Miss A(my) Stokes. Newport Rd. Aldershot. Hants. - Yours, Frank. 7th Battalion Hampshire Regiment . Posted Salisbury; 10/7/12. to Mr Sam Sudbury. W.S. Home. Enshott? Camp. Farnham. Surrey. - So ta ta, Fred. I have searched here in vain for the elusive Brigade Supply Depot badge, trefoil and crown, intro 1896. It was only 5 other ranks and an officer per ASC brigade, so the chances are slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmfinch Posted 14 February , 2018 Share Posted 14 February , 2018 Hello Frogsmile, Harry's Medal Index Card states he was a Corporal in the 7th Gloucesters and an Acting Sergeant in the RDC. I have always assumed the Cap Badge was RDC as it is definitely not Gloucesters. If it isn't RDC, I don't know. It is definitely him as the picture was sent to me by his great nephew who is my 3rd cousin. V/R Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 15 February , 2018 Share Posted 15 February , 2018 Looks rather like an RE cap badge, and could that be a grenade above his sergeant's stripes? Although the centre of the badge doesn't quite look right for RE, somehow. Appreciate it doesn't fit with his MIC but then, as has been said, the cap badge isn't RDC or Gloucesters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 15 February , 2018 Share Posted 15 February , 2018 Is there a small flaming grenade above his stripes on the SD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 15 February , 2018 Share Posted 15 February , 2018 Possibly, and the fact not on greatcoat is not significant because greatcoats were to be bereft of almost every distinction except ranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmfinch Posted 15 February , 2018 Share Posted 15 February , 2018 On 16 January 2018 at 22:02, GWF1967 said: Limber Gunners. 107th Battery Royal Field Artillery. The Bombardier, right hand end, has 3 good conduct stripe and an Artificer's badge, the man behind a Gun Layer's badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmfinch Posted 15 February , 2018 Share Posted 15 February , 2018 Hi Tony, Pat, Frogsmile and Everyone, If the cap badge is Royal Engineers, or any other outfit, is it possible that soldiers transferred to the RDC were attached to other Regiments. I believe Harry was transferred to Middlesex, but I don't think it looks like a Middlesex Regt badge either. This is pure conjecture, but if the Royal Engineers were working on home projects, could that explain things? V/R Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 15 February , 2018 Share Posted 15 February , 2018 I agree with Pat and Toby that his Insignia indicates RE. I do not know if the RDC had any RE subsidiary units. More to research methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 16 February , 2018 Share Posted 16 February , 2018 I've Googled around but haven't as yet found any suggestion of subsidiary RE units of the RDC; the Corps appears to have been organised into Reserve and Protection Companies, and seems to have guarded vulnerable locations, munitions factories and POW camps, etc. Doesn't mean the RE connection is dead and buried, of course. I wonder if a separate thread might entice in an expert or two? On the Forum, I've come across knowledgeable posts on the RDC from GrahamStewart. Is there a possibility of service with the RE which is not captured on MIC and Medal Rolls, or even of some post-War service? The Medal Rolls make no mention of any unit other than 7th Gloucesters and RDC, as Wayne has said. It's a mystery. As to post-War, in addition to that 20% disability I note no ribbon medals in the photo, and also Harry's rather relaxed 'wartime' look. Mind you, I should think surviving the defence of Chunuk Bair would put everyday problems into a certain perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmfinch Posted 16 February , 2018 Share Posted 16 February , 2018 Hello Guys, Regarding Harry Kilmister, do you think his cap badge MAY be Royal Army Service Corps? I also noticed that the badge is slightly askew on his cap. Would that fit in better with home front activities of the RDC? Pure conjecture of course. According to my 3rd Cousin, Harry became a heavy drinker, so that may be reflected in his relaxed demeanour. I have left a message with my cousin to make sure the photo is actually of Harry, but I have checked the MICs for his other brothers (spelling his surname by the correct Kilmister and incorrect Kilminster), and no one comes up, so I believe it is almost certainly him. On Find My Past, I have discovered his Medical History, and although it is hard to read, at the bottom it says he was transferred from the Gloucesters to 1/HS GarB Middlesex with a Regimental Number of G28548 (I think)! It's not on his MIC but the Medical History is definitely his because the crossed out Gloucesters number is correct. Does that make any sense or answer the question? I'm wondering if his MIC is incorrect? V/R Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 16 February , 2018 Share Posted 16 February , 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, wmfinch said: Hello Guys, Regarding Harry Kilmister, do you think his cap badge MAY be Royal Army Service Corps? I also noticed that the badge is slightly askew on his cap. Would that fit in better with home front activities of the RDC? Pure conjecture of course. According to my 3rd Cousin, Harry became a heavy drinker, so that may be reflected in his relaxed demeanour. I have left a message with my cousin to make sure the photo is actually of Harry, but I have checked the MICs for his other brothers (spelling his surname by the correct Kilmister and incorrect Kilminster), and no one comes up, so I believe it is almost certainly him. On Find My Past, I have discovered his Medical History, and although it is hard to read, at the bottom it says he was transferred from the Gloucesters to 1/HS GarB Middlesex with a Regimental Number of G28548 (I think)! It's not on his MIC but the Medical History is definitely his because the crossed out Gloucesters number is correct. Does that make any sense or answer the question? I'm wondering if his MIC is incorrect? V/R Wayne I’m 100% convinced that the photo you have posted shows a sergeant in the RE, as Pat and Toby have pointed out, the Insignia is unmistakable, both in cap badge shape and gm grenade above sergeant’s stripes, as is regulation for RE. Are you positive it’s the right man? The Middlesex Regt HD Garrison battalion connection to the RDC makes sense, as the HD Garrison duties were handed over between line Garrison battalions and the RDC, as Graham Stewart has explained in another thread. Edited 16 February , 2018 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 16 February , 2018 Share Posted 16 February , 2018 1 hour ago, Pat Atkins said: I've Googled around but haven't as yet found any suggestion of subsidiary RE units of the RDC; the Corps appears to have been organised into Reserve and Protection Companies, and seems to have guarded vulnerable locations, munitions factories and POW camps, etc. Doesn't mean the RE connection is dead and buried, of course. I wonder if a separate thread might entice in an expert or two? On the Forum, I've come across knowledgeable posts on the RDC from GrahamStewart. Is there a possibility of service with the RE which is not captured on MIC and Medal Rolls, or even of some post-War service? The Medal Rolls make no mention of any unit other than 7th Gloucesters and RDC, as Wayne has said. It's a mystery. As to post-War, in addition to that 20% disability I note no ribbon medals in the photo, and also Harry's rather relaxed 'wartime' look. Mind you, I should think surviving the defence of Chunuk Bair would put everyday problems into a certain perspective. It does seem very odd Pat, and I am wondering if we are looking at the right man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmfinch Posted 17 February , 2018 Share Posted 17 February , 2018 Hello Everyone, My Cousin is on a course for a few days, so I've left a message with his wife about the photograph. Hopefully, he will have time to contact me in the next week. As soon as I have any info, I'll share it with you. Thank you so much for your interest. V/R Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew-1918 Posted 21 February , 2018 Share Posted 21 February , 2018 KRRC & WAAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FROGSMILE Posted 21 February , 2018 Share Posted 21 February , 2018 I think that the “WAAC” title is actually QMAAC: Queen Mary’s Auxiliary Army Corps. The WAAC existed in India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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