dobbin Posted 25 January , 2008 Share Posted 25 January , 2008 Gosh that was quick Doug. I will be on to the GRO ASAP to order them . Thanks very much for your help. Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procat Posted 25 January , 2008 Share Posted 25 January , 2008 Hi Colin, if you are not aware, the certificate may show very little - especially if the soldier went missing and was then certified as killed. It is the luck of the draw as to how much information there will be. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobbin Posted 25 January , 2008 Share Posted 25 January , 2008 Thanks Doug I have discovered how where and when they were killed I just thought I would get the Certs for my F Hist collection Glad to hear from you again as at present I am stuck on the phone trying to ask why at the GRO web site on line ordering when you go to "checkout" the details you have posted earlier ie index No's do not apper on the confirmation at checkout. I have ordered lots of home certs and the details appear at checkout for you to confirm. This is my first attempt at "overseas". I am now on to the 45th minute of the call thank goodness I have thier STD No as on 0870 it costs a packet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procat Posted 25 January , 2008 Share Posted 25 January , 2008 If you get an answer let us know please. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobbin Posted 25 January , 2008 Share Posted 25 January , 2008 Will do, if I ever get through its now up to 50 mins. Unfortunately as more people are trying to get certs nowadays the GRO does not seem to have kept up with the demand. OK if your online order has no probs but if you need to check on a refused cert or whatever its a long job on the telephone and pricey if you dont use voip or a low cost provider. Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintconor Posted 25 January , 2008 Share Posted 25 January , 2008 Hi, Couldyou please check: 2317 Pte John James Diver Royal Irish Regiment KIA 21/08/1916 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobbin Posted 25 January , 2008 Share Posted 25 January , 2008 Doug you asked me if I got through to GRO the result. I order lots of Certs on line. When you proceed to "checkout" you are asked to check that the GRO entry Nos are correct as once past this point you will be charged. On "overseas" orders ie soldiers KIA for example the same system is used but I am told it is not set up for overseas orders because the headings differ and dont suit the terminology of the oversears certs . This means that the columns detailing the numbers you have input are blank in the basket and checkout pages. You have there fore got to take a chance , "go blind" and enter your card details. I spoke to GRO and asked about this and they said there is no way of finally checking. You can go back to the previous page and check again and hope tht it is correct or alter it there and trust it transfers to checkout in the same format. When you enter your Vol Page etc details there is not the reguar box to use ie there is no system for the overseas numbers which differ from the home numbers for which the form was designed. You have to enter the numbers in one long line in the lower box. It is absolutely impossible to get through to the Overseas Dept so I had to rely on the regular team. What is more galling is that if you are phoning on 0870 you pay 7p per min. Today my call would have cost me £3/50. Even worse is that I am led to believe that GRO collect a "kick Back" on the call and the time they take to answer must be netting GRO a few grand. Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougscarratt@tiscali.co.uk Posted 25 January , 2008 Share Posted 25 January , 2008 Hi Doug Thanks for your efforts Not very familiar with this thread perhaps you can tell me how to obtain a copy of the death certificate. Cheers Doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procat Posted 25 January , 2008 Share Posted 25 January , 2008 Hi, Couldyou please check: 2317 Pte John James Diver Royal Irish Regiment KIA 21/08/1916 Thanks SDGW Name: John James Diver Rank: Private Number: 2317 Regiment etc: Royal Irish Battalion Battalion etc: 6th Battalion Born: Templemore, Co Derry Enlisted: Londonderry Died Date: 21 Aug 1916 Died How: Killed in action Theatre: France & Flanders Death Certificate Name Diver John J, Rank Pte, Number 2317, Regiment Irish, Year 1916 Volume I.77 Page 23 Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procat Posted 25 January , 2008 Share Posted 25 January , 2008 Doug you asked me if I got through to GRO the result. I order lots of Certs on line. When you proceed to "checkout" you are asked to check that the GRO entry Nos are correct as once past this point you will be charged. On "overseas" orders ie soldiers KIA for example the same system is used but I am told it is not set up for overseas orders because the headings differ and dont suit the terminology of the oversears certs . This means that the columns detailing the numbers you have input are blank in the basket and checkout pages. You have there fore got to take a chance , "go blind" and enter your card details. I spoke to GRO and asked about this and they said there is no way of finally checking. You can go back to the previous page and check again and hope tht it is correct or alter it there and trust it transfers to checkout in the same format. When you enter your Vol Page etc details there is not the reguar box to use ie there is no system for the overseas numbers which differ from the home numbers for which the form was designed. You have to enter the numbers in one long line in the lower box. (Snipped). Colin Hi Colin, Thanks for the information. Not very satisfactory at all really. Given the revenue they are raking in you would think they could hire a programmer for a few weeks. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procat Posted 25 January , 2008 Share Posted 25 January , 2008 Hi Doug Thanks for your efforts Not very familiar with this thread perhaps you can tell me how to obtain a copy of the death certificate. Cheers Doug. Hi Doug, Go here: http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ Select 'Order overseas certificates' Take note of Colin's last post for tips Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withdeanwombat Posted 26 January , 2008 Share Posted 26 January , 2008 Hello! My great uncle was KIA in January 1915.He was William George Dumbrell b1895,and in the Royal Sussex.It's little,but all I currently have.I'd be grateful if you can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procat Posted 26 January , 2008 Share Posted 26 January , 2008 SDGW has this: Name: George William Dumbrell Rank: Private Number: S/2232 Regt etc: Royal Sussex Regiment Battalion etc: 2nd Battalion Born: Hove Enlisted: Brighton Died Date: 16 Feb 1915 Died How: Killed in action Theatre of war: British Expeditionary Force CWGC has: Name: DUMBRELL, GEORGE WILLIAM Initials: G W Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Royal Sussex Regiment Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Age: 19 Date of Death: 16/02/1915 Service No: S/2233 Additional information: Son of Alfred Ellis Dumbrell and Jane Dumbrell, of 97, Shirley St., Hove, Brighton. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 20 and 21. Memorial: LE TOURET MEMORIAL Death certificate details are: Dumbrell George W. Rank Pte, Number SR/2233 Regiment Sussex, Year 1915 Volume I.73 Page 70 Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withdeanwombat Posted 26 January , 2008 Share Posted 26 January , 2008 SDGW has this: Name: George William Dumbrell Rank: Private Number: S/2232 Regt etc: Royal Sussex Regiment Battalion etc: 2nd Battalion Born: Hove Enlisted: Brighton Died Date: 16 Feb 1915 Died How: Killed in action Theatre of war: British Expeditionary Force CWGC has: Name: DUMBRELL, GEORGE WILLIAM Initials: G W Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Royal Sussex Regiment Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Age: 19 Date of Death: 16/02/1915 Service No: S/2233 Additional information: Son of Alfred Ellis Dumbrell and Jane Dumbrell, of 97, Shirley St., Hove, Brighton. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 20 and 21. Memorial: LE TOURET MEMORIAL Death certificate details are: Dumbrell George W. Rank Pte, Number SR/2233 Regiment Sussex, Year 1915 Volume I.73 Page 70 Doug Brilliant,and faster than Concorde! Thanks very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuntun Posted 26 January , 2008 Share Posted 26 January , 2008 Doug, thanks very much indeed for the info, very interesting! Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougscarratt@tiscali.co.uk Posted 26 January , 2008 Share Posted 26 January , 2008 Hi Doug Thanks again for all your help Regards Doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan D'Hooghe Posted 28 January , 2008 Share Posted 28 January , 2008 Hi, Is your offer of last August still open? if so, do you have any record information on a L/Cpl Jack D'Hooghe. KIA at Ovillers 3/7/1916 with the 7th Suffolks Thanks Jonathan D'Hooghe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procat Posted 28 January , 2008 Share Posted 28 January , 2008 SDGW Name: Jack D'Hooghe Rank: L/Cpl Number: 19053 Regt etc: Suffolk Regiment Batt etc: 7th Battalion Born: Nottingham Enlisted: Nottingham Died Date: 03 July 1916 Died How: Killed in action Theatre: France & Flanders Notes: Formerly 12485, Hussars of the line Death Certificate D'Hooghe Jack, Rank L/Cpl Number 19053, Regiment Suff, Year 1916, Volume I. 63, Page 97 Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickris Posted 28 January , 2008 Share Posted 28 January , 2008 Hi Does your offer still stand if so could you look up my gt uncle : Private Henry Francis Thundercliffe 203120 1st/5th Bn West Yorkshire Regt KIA age 24 Tues 9 October 1917 son of Mrs Annie Thundercliffe Hull East Yorkshire Many Thanks Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procat Posted 28 January , 2008 Share Posted 28 January , 2008 SDGW has: Name: Henry Francis Thundercliffe Rank: Private Number: 203120 Regt etc: Prince of Wales's Own (West Yorkshire Regiment) Batt etc: 1/5th Battalion Born: Hull, Yorks Enlisted: Hull Died Date: 09 Oct 1917 Died How: Killed in action Theatre: France & Flanders Death Certificate Thundercliffe Henry F, Rank Pte, Number 203120, Regiment W.Y.R., Year 1917, Volume I.38, Page 96 Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickris Posted 28 January , 2008 Share Posted 28 January , 2008 Thanks very much Doug your a true gent Many Thanks Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan D'Hooghe Posted 31 January , 2008 Share Posted 31 January , 2008 Thank you Procat for your help. As a novice to a lot of this, how do I get a copy of the death certificate? Once again, many thanks Jonathan D'Hooghe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procat Posted 31 January , 2008 Share Posted 31 January , 2008 Hi Jonathan, See post 311 this thread. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan D'Hooghe Posted 31 January , 2008 Share Posted 31 January , 2008 thanks again J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnorthall Posted 13 February , 2008 Share Posted 13 February , 2008 If the offer is still open? Name: SMITH, JOSEPH Initials: J Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Rifleman Regiment/Service: Rifle Brigade Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Date of Death: 25/09/1915 Service No: S/7203 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 10. Memorial: PLOEGSTEERT MEMORIAL Thanks very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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