Arthur Posted 15 August , 2011 Author Share Posted 15 August , 2011 I know it has been a while since there were any additions to this thread but I am hoping that someone might know the Battle Patch insignia for the Devons... Cheers, Taff Good evening Taff, Information that I have for the Devonshire Regiment. 2nd. Bn. Devonshire Regiment [1] Green/dark red/green arc Before 1918 Felt [2] Red/green/red arc After 1918 Felt 5th. Bn. Devonshire Regiment Green square with red 5 over PoW feathers and coronet over concave DEVON Embroidered on felt 1st/6th. Bn. Devonshire Regiment Horizontal rectangle top half green bottom red 4½" X 2" Worn on helmet Felt 10th. Bn. Devonshire Regiment Blue D 3½" X 3" Felt 16th. Bn Devonshire Regiment Horizontal rectangle divided vertically: left red/central narrow yellow stripe/blue 2¼" X 2" Ribbon Hope this help. Regards Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief_Chum Posted 17 August , 2011 Share Posted 17 August , 2011 Thank you Arthur, That's great! WIth very best wishes, Taff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mulcahy Posted 22 November , 2011 Share Posted 22 November , 2011 Thank you Arthur, That's great! WIth very best wishes, Taff Arthur I am a latecomer to this thread, thank you for the time and effort you have put into this. I see some information for the battalions of the Royal Munster Fusiliers attached to 10th Division. May I ask if there is any other data available for any of the battalions of the Munsters please? Sincerely John Mulcahy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted 22 November , 2011 Author Share Posted 22 November , 2011 Arthur I am a latecomer to this thread, thank you for the time and effort you have put into this. I see some information for the battalions of the Royal Munster Fusiliers attached to 10th Division. May I ask if there is any other data available for any of the battalions of the Munsters please? Sincerely John Mulcahy Good morning John, I have the following information: 1st. Bn Dark green Shamrock leaf. Felt. 409 2nd. Bn 1” squares: Yellow for Lewis gunners; Black for Grenadiers; Red for Bombers and Green for Riflemen. Felt. 410 3rd. Bn Light green Shamrock leaf, Felt. 411 5th. Bn Olive green Shamrock leaf, Felt. 412 8th. Bn Dark green triangle. 413 Regards Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mulcahy Posted 22 November , 2011 Share Posted 22 November , 2011 Good morning John, I have the following information: Regards Arthur Arthur My sincere thanks. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachlan Posted 22 November , 2011 Share Posted 22 November , 2011 Hi Arthur Any possibility of insignia worn by (and if at all possible an idea of periods) :- 6th Black Watch (51st Highland Div) 8th Black Watch (9th Scottish Div) Further, any info on insignia worn by other units in these divisions ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted 22 November , 2011 Author Share Posted 22 November , 2011 Hi Arthur Any possibility of insignia worn by (and if at all possible an idea of periods) :- 6th Black Watch (51st Highland Div) 8th Black Watch (9th Scottish Div) Further, any info on insignia worn by other units in these divisions ? Thanks Hello Lachlan, 6th Black Watch: Dark blue horizontal rectangle 2½X¾ Braid 8th Black Watch: Sorry nothing found. However, Osprey's 'British Battle Insignia (1) 1914-18' Mike Chappell states "There was evidence that the 9th Div wore patches of regimental tartan on their bonnets and sleeves as an early form of battle insignia. By 1916, when steel helmets were issued the 9th adopted a system of company indicator patches worn on the sleeves. These were worn as an arc at the top of the sleeve, red for A Coy, yellow for B, blue for C and green for D. In 1918 numbers representing the seniority of Bns within Bdes 1-3 were painted on steel helmets and a small metal thistle Div sign was worn on each sleeve. I get back to you with other units of the 9th Scottish Div and 51st Highland Div ASAP Regards Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted 22 November , 2011 Author Share Posted 22 November , 2011 Hello Lachlan, 6th Black Watch: Dark blue horizontal rectangle 2½X¾ Braid 8th Black Watch: Sorry nothing found. However, Osprey's 'British Battle Insignia (1) 1914-18' Mike Chappell states "There was evidence that the 9th Div wore patches of regimental tartan on their bonnets and sleeves as an early form of battle insignia. By 1916, when steel helmets were issued the 9th adopted a system of company indicator patches worn on the sleeves. These were worn as an arc at the top of the sleeve, red for A Coy, yellow for B, blue for C and green for D. In 1918 numbers representing the seniority of Bns within Bdes 1-3 were painted on steel helmets and a small metal thistle Div sign was worn on each sleeve. I get back to you with other units of the 9th Scottish Div and 51st Highland Div ASAP Regards Arthur Hello Lachlan, I am sorry to say that there has been no further information added to either of the files regarding the 9th Scottish Div and 51st Highland Div since I last posted the previous information to you. Regards Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachlan Posted 23 November , 2011 Share Posted 23 November , 2011 Thanks Arthur for your help. It has really helped me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief_Chum Posted 30 March , 2012 Share Posted 30 March , 2012 Hi Arthur, Do you have any details on the Border Regiment? Best wishes, Taff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted 1 April , 2012 Author Share Posted 1 April , 2012 Hi Arthur, Do you have any details on the Border Regiment? Best wishes, Taff Hello Taff, The information that I have is shown as: [a]1st Bn Red horizontal rectangle ½"X3" [Other Ranks] Felt 1st Bn Red vertical rectangle ½"X3" [Other ranks] Felt 1st/4th Bn Green/yellow/green vertical rectangle worn on helmet Felt 2nd/4th White BORDER on green horizontal rectangle worn on helmet Embroidered on Felt 5th Bn Yellow horizontal diamond 4"X3" Cotton 6th Bn Green horizontal rectangle with two narrow horizontal white stripes worn on back Cotton 7th Bn Yellow disc 2" diameter Felt [a]8th Bn Green Rectangle 2½X½ Felt Worn on collar 8TH Bn Green/narrow yellow/purple/narrow yellow/green rectangle, worn on the shoulder. Ribbon 9th Bn Black Rectangle 2½X½ Felt Worn on shoulder strap 11th Bn Red disc 2½" diameter Cotton Coy bars worn underneath: HQ Coy Black, A Coy Red B Coy Green C Coy Yellow D Coy Light blue Hope this help. Regards Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief_Chum Posted 3 April , 2012 Share Posted 3 April , 2012 Thank you Arthur, That's great - exactly what I needed to know! With very best wishes, Taff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 5 April , 2012 Share Posted 5 April , 2012 Hi Arthur Seems I missed this thread somehow......I have spent some time going through it -- what a treasure trove! Many thanks. Could you check records for the 1/4th Gordons (154th Bde 51st HD) I think 3 blue stripes on shoulder but I am unsure of specific dates(perhaps from Mid/Late 1916 on) I am also unsure if any other formation signs were worn. Any information would be great. Thanks again, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted 5 April , 2012 Author Share Posted 5 April , 2012 Hi Arthur Seems I missed this thread somehow......I have spent some time going through it -- what a treasure trove! Many thanks. Could you check records for the 1/4th Gordons (154th Bde 51st HD) I think 3 blue stripes on shoulder but I am unsure of specific dates(perhaps from Mid/Late 1916 on) I am also unsure if any other formation signs were worn. Any information would be great. Thanks again, Chris Good morning Chris, I have one reference for 1st/4th Gordons and that verify what you already know. However, I don't have the details of the size, where it was worn, or from which period. My source gives it as: 3 vertical light blue bars on a khaki rectangle silk on felt. Regards Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 5 April , 2012 Share Posted 5 April , 2012 Good morning Chris, I have one reference for 1st/4th Gordons and that verify what you already know. However, I don't have the details of the size, where it was worn, or from which period. My source gives it as: 3 vertical light blue bars on a khaki rectangle silk on felt. Regards Arthur Thanks very much! Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernhighlander Posted 14 December , 2012 Share Posted 14 December , 2012 Hello Arthur, Am fairly new to this forum and am beyond pleasantly surprised to come across your thread - trully an impressive resource notto mention your generosity. Was wondering if you could help ID the flash on this pith helmet. I think itto be the 39th battalion, (desert) service column ( DSC) ofthe 13th(Western) Division. Do you have anythingthat can confirm this or if it isnt this, can you ID it? Attached is a close up picture, its a white over blue diamond with 39 embroidered in blue on the white upper half, and DSC embroidered in white on the lower half. http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b605/Westernhighlander/image-13_zpsf6f224c7.jpg Thanks for any light you can shed, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted 20 December , 2012 Author Share Posted 20 December , 2012 Hello Mike, I don't actually have any information on your particular helmet flash. However, I could be wrong, but I would say that it was worn by the 39th Divisional Signal Coy. Regards Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PercyJamesFellows Posted 17 June , 2013 Share Posted 17 June , 2013 Could anyone give information as to the the cloth insignia of the 10th Buffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierce09 Posted 17 June , 2013 Share Posted 17 June , 2013 Arthur, great thread. would you have any info on 2nd and 3rd Manchesters? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted 18 June , 2013 Author Share Posted 18 June , 2013 Hi, The information that I have is as follows: 2nd Bn Manchester Regt: Diamond, vertically elongated, red with horizontal company bar underneath it, [The bars were: green, black, blue, red and yellow. However, there was no indication given of which coy wore them!] Cotton. 3rd Bn. Sorry, I have no information. There are no dates given for the period when they were worn, or of the sizes of them. Hope that this is of help. Regards Arthur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted 18 June , 2013 Author Share Posted 18 June , 2013 Could anyone give information as to the the cloth insignia of the 10th Buffs Hi, The information I have is as follows: 10th East Kent Regt: Horizontal rectangle, green with narrow horizontal red strips on the edges and a narrower central strip. Worn on helmet, Ribbon Sorry to say that there were no dates of the period worn, or of the size of it. Hope that this is of help. Regards Arthur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PercyJamesFellows Posted 18 June , 2013 Share Posted 18 June , 2013 it does help thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierce09 Posted 18 June , 2013 Share Posted 18 June , 2013 Thanks Arthur!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickg Posted 18 November , 2013 Share Posted 18 November , 2013 Hi ArthurWould appreciate any info you may have on two royal fusiliers Bn's25th (service) Bn (Frontiersmen) 32nd (Service) Bn (East Ham) Thanks Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted 19 November , 2013 Author Share Posted 19 November , 2013 Good day Nick, I'm sorry to report that there is no information on either battalion in the I-d pamphlet. Regards Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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