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Hi Duncan

I'm thoroughly impressed by your knowledge – no doubt the result of a lot of research. Well, hope you can help...

I'm looking for any information on the crew of the airship NS11 which was lost at sea 15 July 1919. I'm particularly after information on CH Lewry of the RNAS (J5174) who transferred to the RAF (313806) and was awarded the AFM before his death. I have his Navy records but can find nothing of his RAF records at the PRO. I'd love to know why he was awarded the AFM and anything more on the rest of the crew – who were all lost, so I'd guess there really isn't much in the way of surviving relatives.

I'm putting together a site at http://web.mac.com/whatisart/iWeb/NS11/NS11.html

Really hope you can help me put some meat on the bones of this fascinating story.

Many thanks in anticipation.

Peter Lewry

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Hi Duncan

I'm thoroughly impressed by your knowledge – no doubt the result of a lot of research. Well, hope you can help...

I'm looking for any information on the crew of the airship NS11 which was lost at sea 15 July 1919. I'm particularly after information on CH Lewry of the RNAS (J5174) who transferred to the RAF (313806) and was awarded the AFM before his death. I have his Navy records but can find nothing of his RAF records at the PRO. I'd love to know why he was awarded the AFM and anything more on the rest of the crew – who were all lost, so I'd guess there really isn't much in the way of surviving relatives.

I'm putting together a site at http://web.mac.com/whatisart/iWeb/NS11/NS11.html

Really hope you can help me put some meat on the bones of this fascinating story.

Many thanks in anticipation.

Peter Lewry

Hi Peter,

I have very little on Lewry except that he was stationed at Longside between at least October 1917 and August 1918. He flew in airships with R.E.V.Jelliffe between the above dates (Mentioned in Jelliffe's Log Book)

He is also given fleeting mentions in the Longside Station Magazine, the "Battle Bag" in the issues of May 1918 (pages 39,41) and August 1918 (page 35)

The casulties I am aware of are listed below, but be aware that they would only be ex RNAS men

Warneford,Walter Kemeys Francis Goodall, FCdr

Cameron,Frederick J37870

Connelly,Thomas F20367

Jacques,Alkfred Thomas F40902

Jarrett,Thomas George F20797

O'Connor,Charles F2460

Waghorn,Percy James F2161

That's all I've got for you I'm afraid. If you can add anything to these bare facts I would be interested in hearing, so that I can add it to my data base.

The best of luck in your endevours

Regards Duncan

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Duncan

That's fantastic – and thanks for getting back to me so fast. The service numbers will really help me find out more about each of the crew. However, I also have Captain Arthur Stanley Elliott DSC as one of the casualties – he seemed to be along for the ride. He is reported lost in The Times of 17 July 1919 and various articles since but is missing from some of the casualty lists for NS11.

I must also revisit Battlebag – I missed Lewry when I went through them at Hendon.

By the way, is Jelliffe's log at the PRO?

Thanks again for your help – you have given me the impetus to move on again and find out more. Anything I do find I'll add to the website. By all means have a look through it and let me know if I've made any glaring mistakes (I'm new to all this!).

Best wishes

Peter

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Hi Duncan,

Do you have any info on Wing cdr Brock and the air mechanics wfrom Starford experimental station who fought in the Zeebrugge Raid 1918. I once heard about a book about Stratford but have never seen it.

Many thanks,

Dom

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Hi Duncan,

Have you any info on these 2 men

Flt Sub Lieutenant Frederick Cloete Walker

6th Squadron

Air mehanic 2nd class John Albert Bradley

F/49026

Died of Appendicitis 01/03/18

in Plymouth

Regards

Chris

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Hi Duncan,

Have you any info on these 2 men

Flt Sub Lieutenant Frederick Cloete Walker

6th Squadron

Air mehanic 2nd class John Albert Bradley

F/49026

Died of Appendicitis 01/03/18

in Plymouth

Regards

Chris

Hi Chris,

Walker,Frederick Cloete, Flt Sub Lt

Received his Royal Aero Club Cert No 3681 on 1st October 1916 (his pilots license)

A native of St John's Wood

Served at Chingford and Eastchurch

No 6 Squadron March 1917

Stalled and crashed from 400 feet in Nieuport N3201 at Savy, France

Buried Aubigny Communal Cemetery Extension

Headstone inscription "Jesu mercy, Mary help"

Bradley,John Albert, AM2 F49026

He enlisted on 1st February 1918 and died only one month later.

I have no other info but would expect that he was probably on his first station but have no idea where that would be.

Sorry thats all I can help with

Regards Duncan

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Hi Duncan,

Do you have any info on Wing cdr Brock and the air mechanics wfrom Starford experimental station who fought in the Zeebrugge Raid 1918. I once heard about a book about Stratford but have never seen it.

Many thanks,

Dom

Hi Dom,

I have a limited amount of info on Stratford. The majority of men who served there were specially recruited for work on a chemical process and their enlistment papers were so endorsed. These papers are normally signed by F.A.Brock. I have a list of 145 men known to have served there, of whom 44 served at Zeebrugge or Ostende, but it would be better if you PM'd me as I can then send you this list in Excel.

Regards Duncan

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Hi Duncan

my great uncle was in the RNAS

William John Murch

he was a wireless operator

Later to the RAF

Served in italy I think

Thanks in Advance

Mark Franke USA

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Hi Duncan

my great uncle was in the RNAS

William John Murch

he was a wireless operator

Later to the RAF

Served in italy I think

Thanks in Advance

Mark Franke USA

Hi Mark,

I have very little on your great uncle, but here goes

William John Murch, born St Pancras, London 12th January 1899

Enlisted in May1916 as an Air Mechanic 1st Class as a wireless operator

Official Number F14599

Promoted Leading Mechanic 1st January 1918

Became Corporal 1st April 1918 on formation of RAF with official number

214599.

I have nothing further. I hope this helps.

You can get his RNAS service record from the National Archives at Kew under ADM188, but it will probably be very sparse. His RAF service record is not online, but would probably be equally sparse.

If you can add anything you discover in your research I would appreciate

it so that I can add it to my database.

Regards Duncan

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Duncan

Thanks so much. Actually he joined the 12th London at age 16, Sept 1914. He was wounded at 2nd Ypres. After that, my grandfather ,who was in the Grenadiers found him and got him bounced out of the army for lying about his age. He then joined the RNAS and was eventualy in Italy befor the end of the war. Thanks for your info. I did not know he was promoted to corporal.

Thanks Again

Mark Franke

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Hi Duncan,

Have you any info on these 2 men

Flt Sub Lieutenant Frederick Cloete Walker

6th Squadron

Air mehanic 2nd class John Albert Bradley

F/49026

Died of Appendicitis 01/03/18

in Plymouth

Regards

Chris

Hi Chris,

We seem to be researching the same person; Flt Sub Lieutenant Frederick Cloete Walker. He is a Great Uncle of mine. I have photographs of him. He was flying a Nieuport 17bis from Petite Synthe to La Bellevue when he crashed while landing at Savy.

Richard.

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Hi Duncan,

have you got anything on

Fl Lt Maurice William Wallis Eppstein RNAS

died aged 20 on 12 May 1917

Regards

Patrick

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Hi Duncan,

have you got anything on

Fl Lt Maurice William Wallis Eppstein RNAS

died aged 20 on 12 May 1917

Regards

Patrick

Hi Patrick,

He was born 8th November 1896

Midshipman [RN] 15th May 1915

Prob Flt Off 10th September 1916

Flt Sub Lt 28th February 1917

Awarded Royal Aero Cert No 4202 on 8th December 1916

At Crystal Palace 14th September 1916 - 13th October 1916

At Chingford 14th October 1916 - 4th March 1917

At Cranwell 5th March 1917 - 6th April 1917

At Dover 7thApril 1917 - 19th April 1917

No 10 Squadron 20th April 1917 - 12th May 1917

Killed of Zeebrugge in Triplane N5456 12th May 1917

Claimed by 4 different pilots but also possibly to A/A fire

Thats all I have

Regards Duncan

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Duncan,

Please do you have any information on a Captain J. T. Wright of the RNAS who died in July, 1919.

Many thanks.

Andy.

Hi Andy,

Sorry I've been very slow in responding to your query.

I'm afraid I have almost nothing on your man.

He was born 4th September 1897

He was at Barrow in Furness from March 1918 until his death in July 1919

He died as a result of a motor cycle accident.

Hope this tiny snippet helps

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Hi Andy,

Sorry I've been very slow in responding to your query.

I'm afraid I have almost nothing on your man.

He was born 4th September 1897

He was at Barrow in Furness from March 1918 until his death in July 1919

He died as a result of a motor cycle accident.

Hope this tiny snippet helps

That's more than I knew :)

Do you have his Christian names?

Thanks very much.

Andy.

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That's more than I knew :)

Do you have his Christian names?

Thanks very much.

Andy.

Hi Andy,

Silly me, I assumed that you would know this, a stupid assumption of course.

He was James Thurstin Wright

My apologies Duncan

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Hi Duncan

You posted some information on Lieutenant R. M. Inge for me in post 18 of this thread in answer to a question of mine in post 16. You mentioned you may have some other details at a later date. I must admit I forgot to repost my request but I would be grateful for any further information you may have.

Kind regards

Steve

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Hello,

Do you have much information regarding:

Archibald Francis Hodgskin and his pilot Lieutenant Ronald Baynton Picken, both killed in September 1918.

I have quite a bit of information on my website, but additional information, especially about Picken would be most welcome.

My website:

Click Here

Regards

David

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Hi Andy,

Silly me, I assumed that you would know this, a stupid assumption of course.

He was James Thurstin Wright

My apologies Duncan

Thanks mate.

Andy.

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Hello,

Do you have much information regarding:

Archibald Francis Hodgskin and his pilot Lieutenant Ronald Baynton Picken, both killed in September 1918.

I have quite a bit of information on my website, but additional information, especially about Picken would be most welcome.

My website:

Click Here

Regards

David

Hi David,

Thank you for the sight of your website. The obly snippet I can add for Hodgskin was that he enlisted as an Air Mechanic 2nd Class F26794

For Picken,

Born 23Sep1898

Connections with Pussellawa, Ceylon as well as Newby.

Prob Flt Off 24Sep1916

At Crystal; Palace 24th Sept 1916 - 1st November 1916

At Northern Flying School, Windermere 2nd November 1916 - 15th December 1916

Drashed in 3206 5th December 1916

At Calshot 16th December 1916 - 11th April 1917

At Westgate 12th April 1917 - 3rd June 1917

At Admty Compass Observatory Slough 4th June 1917 - 17th June 1917

At Westgate 18th June 1917 - 6th July 1917

At Malta 7th July 1917 -

In HMS Queen II August 1917

At Malta April 1918 & October 1918

No 224 Squadron August 1918 -6th September 1918

Thats all I can add, hope this helps

Regards Duncan

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Hi David,

Thank you for the sight of your website. The obly snippet I can add for Hodgskin was that he enlisted as an Air Mechanic 2nd Class F26794

For Picken,

Born 23Sep1898

Connections with Pussellawa, Ceylon as well as Newby.

Prob Flt Off 24Sep1916

At Crystal; Palace 24th Sept 1916 - 1st November 1916

At Northern Flying School, Windermere 2nd November 1916 - 15th December 1916

Drashed in 3206 5th December 1916

At Calshot 16th December 1916 - 11th April 1917

At Westgate 12th April 1917 - 3rd June 1917

At Admty Compass Observatory Slough 4th June 1917 - 17th June 1917

At Westgate 18th June 1917 - 6th July 1917

At Malta 7th July 1917 -

In HMS Queen II August 1917

At Malta April 1918 & October 1918

No 224 Squadron August 1918 -6th September 1918

Thats all I can add, hope this helps

Regards Duncan

Hi David,

Ive just realised that I gave you the wrong official number for Hodgskin, it should of course read F14597

Regards Duncan

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