andyspiller Posted 13 August , 2006 Share Posted 13 August , 2006 Duncan Many, many thanks for the lookup. Rgds Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robbob Posted 29 August , 2006 Share Posted 29 August , 2006 Hi Duncan I am hoping you can give me more details on my grandfather Arthur Henry Fuller, born 9th march 1893 Regards Rob Fuller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 29 August , 2006 Share Posted 29 August , 2006 Hi Duncan I am hoping you can give me more details on my grandfather Arthur Henry Fuller, born 9th march 1893 Regards Rob Fuller Hi Rob, I'm afraid I have very little on your grandfather. He enlisted in the RNAS on the 20th January 1915 as an Air Mechanic 1st Class Official number F3158 His trade was recorded in the RNAS as an engineer He was transferred to the newly formed RAF on the 1st April 1918 still as an Air Mechanic 1st Class His new Official Number being 203158. His RAF trade was recorded as Sheel Metal Worker. Unfortunately I have so far not found him mentioned in any of the many thousands of published sources I have so far researched. I would suggest that you download his RNAS record from ADM188 at the National Archives which you can do online for a small fee. His RAF record is also in the National Archives but is not online. If there is any further help you need just ask Regards Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robbob Posted 30 August , 2006 Share Posted 30 August , 2006 Hi Rob, I'm afraid I have very little on your grandfather. He enlisted in the RNAS on the 20th January 1915 as an Air Mechanic 1st Class Official number F3158 His trade was recorded in the RNAS as an engineer He was transferred to the newly formed RAF on the 1st April 1918 still as an Air Mechanic 1st Class His new Official Number being 203158. His RAF trade was recorded as Sheel Metal Worker. Unfortunately I have so far not found him mentioned in any of the many thousands of published sources I have so far researched. I would suggest that you download his RNAS record from ADM188 at the National Archives which you can do online for a small fee. His RAF record is also in the National Archives but is not online. If there is any further help you need just ask Regards Duncan Thank you Duncan. I have downloaded his service record and it says he served on Ark Royal from june 1916 to feb 1918. However, I have been told he was based on an island so was the Ark Royal just an accounting base? Also, we believe he was on a ship torpedoed and sunk. Any ideas on how to find out more? Many thanks Rob Fuller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 30 August , 2006 Share Posted 30 August , 2006 Thank you Duncan. I have downloaded his service record and it says he served on Ark Royal from june 1916 to feb 1918. However, I have been told he was based on an island so was the Ark Royal just an accounting base? Also, we believe he was on a ship torpedoed and sunk. Any ideas on how to find out more? Many thanks Rob Fuller Hi Rob, No the Ark Royal was a seaplane carrier which spent most of the war in the Med. He may well have been detached to one of several islands such as Mudros at some time. There were a considerable number of ships lost in the Med. There may be more clues in his service record. I would suggest that you post it on the forum as thee are quite a few members who might be able to unpick more info. Regards Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starspotter7 Posted 29 September , 2006 Share Posted 29 September , 2006 Hi Duncan, Please could you have a look for Ernest Cecil Moon (born 1899), he was in the RNAS at the end of the First World War, and then he was in the RAF. Also if possible could you have a look for his friend John Wright, probably of a similar age to Ernest, also in the RNAS at the end of the war. I'm afraid I'm not sure of their numbers, so this is a bit of a long shot! Many thanks in advance, Sarah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 30 September , 2006 Share Posted 30 September , 2006 Hi Duncan, Please could you have a look for Ernest Cecil Moon (born 1899), he was in the RNAS at the end of the First World War, and then he was in the RAF. Also if possible could you have a look for his friend John Wright, probably of a similar age to Ernest, also in the RNAS at the end of the war. I'm afraid I'm not sure of their numbers, so this is a bit of a long shot! Many thanks in advance, Sarah Hi Sarah, I have very little on either men as they served for a very short period of time in the RNAS but here goes. Ernest Cecil Moon was appointed as a Probationary Flight Officer on the 31st December 1917 He was stationed at Roehampton from 31st December until at least February 1918, where he would have been trained as a Kite Balloon Officer. From October 1918 until Jun1919 he was serving at Merrifield Kite Balloon Section. I assume John Wright was in fact John William Wright. He was appointed a Probationary Flight Officer on 19th November 1917 and served at Roehampton where he was trained as a Kite Balloon Officer. He was stationed there from 19th November 1917 until at least February 1918. From October 1918 until June 1919 he was serving at Immingham Kite Balloon Section. Naval Kite Balloon Officers were trained to man observation balloons which were towed by ships, often destroyers which were escorting convoys. To save time when they were relieved in their balloons the procedure was to transfer them from the ship to the balloon or back by means of breeches boy without bringing the balloon fully down to the ship. I have always marvelled at this quite hair raising procedure particularly in rough seas. Now you have their full names and seniority you should be able to research them more fully at the National Archives. Hope this helps, Regards Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 30 September , 2006 Share Posted 30 September , 2006 Name: CARR, JOHN HENRY TALBOT Initials: J H T Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Flying Officer Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Age: 22 Date of Death: 20/05/1921 Additional information: Son of H. G. Talbot Carr and Daisy Shelley Carr, of Bradwell House, 6, Park Lane, Southwold. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: North of Church. Cemetery: SOUTHWOLD (ST. EDMUND) CHURCHYARD Anything on this chap please I strongly suspect that he had previously been a member of the RNAS Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starspotter7 Posted 1 October , 2006 Share Posted 1 October , 2006 Hi Duncan, Thank you so much for that fascinating information, it has helped me to understand how the men came to know each other and become such good friends, they must have met at Roehampton! Ernest was my gran's uncle, we know quite a bit about his time in the RAF, but we didn't know much about his time in the RNAS, so this has really helped us to find out what he was up to in those early years! I can't wait to read up more on Kite Balloon Officers! Many thanks for the look-up, Sarah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 2 October , 2006 Share Posted 2 October , 2006 Hi Duncan, Thank you so much for that fascinating information, it has helped me to understand how the men came to know each other and become such good friends, they must have met at Roehampton! Ernest was my gran's uncle, we know quite a bit about his time in the RAF, but we didn't know much about his time in the RNAS, so this has really helped us to find out what he was up to in those early years! I can't wait to read up more on Kite Balloon Officers! Many thanks for the look-up, Sarah Hi Sarah, I suggest that you try to get hold of the magazine Cross & Cockade International Journal Vol 27 No 3 1996, which has two extensive articles on kite balloons both from navy and army service. 45pages with illustrations. If you have problems let me know, probably best by e-mail. Regards Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starspotter7 Posted 5 October , 2006 Share Posted 5 October , 2006 Hi Sarah, I suggest that you try to get hold of the magazine Cross & Cockade International Journal Vol 27 No 3 1996, which has two extensive articles on kite balloons both from navy and army service. 45pages with illustrations. If you have problems let me know, probably best by e-mail. Regards Duncan Thanks Duncan, I'll definately have a look for that magazine! Best wishes, Sarah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 5 October , 2006 Share Posted 5 October , 2006 Thanks Duncan, I'll definately have a look for that magazine! Best wishes, Sarah Hi Sarah, You could also try to get hold of Blackwoods Magazine of April 1927 which contains an article on the introduction of the first kite balloon ship in 1915. Regards Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aneurin Posted 8 October , 2006 Share Posted 8 October , 2006 Hi Duncan I'd be very grateful for any information you may have on the following four RNAS men with Cardiff connections: Baudry, Royce Gustave Andre Flt. Lt. RNAS kia 2/8/16 Cokeley, Arthur Charles AM2 240526 RAF kia 4/7/18 Pryce, Thomas Herbert AC2 239373 RAF 13/2/19 Rhys-Evans, J. Eric PO Mech. F1104 RNAS kia 2/5/15 Many thanks Aneurin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted 8 October , 2006 Share Posted 8 October , 2006 Hi Duncan, I would be grateful for any information you may have on my Grandfather, Fl Lt Robert Geddes Spence DFC who joined the RNAS in 1916 and flew with them in the Aegean laterly in DH9s. Thanks, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 9 October , 2006 Share Posted 9 October , 2006 --> QUOTE(Rob B @ Oct 8 2006, 04:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi Duncan, I would be grateful for any information you may have on my Grandfather, Fl Lt Robert Geddes Spence DFC who joined the RNAS in 1916 and flew with them in the Aegean laterly in DH9s. Thanks, Rob Hi Rob,Spence, Robert Geddes, Appointed Probationary Flight Officer 15th July 1917 ( no trace previous to this date) Flight Sub Lt 13th January 1918 With No 2 Wing 21st March 1918 to 31st March 1918 RAF service not known but believed to have been at Stavros January 1919 Sorry thats all I have Regards Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 9 October , 2006 Share Posted 9 October , 2006 Hi Duncan I'd be very grateful for any information you may have on the following four RNAS men with Cardiff connections: Baudry, Royce Gustave Andre Flt. Lt. RNAS kia 2/8/16 Cokeley, Arthur Charles AM2 240526 RAF kia 4/7/18 Pryce, Thomas Herbert AC2 239373 RAF 13/2/19 Rhys-Evans, J. Eric PO Mech. F1104 RNAS kia 2/5/15 Many thanks Aneurin Hi Aneurin Baudry, Royce Gustave Andre, appointed Probationary Flight Officer 18th Mar 1915 (no prev record) Flt Lt 1st Jan 1916. Awarded Royal Aero Club Cert No 1194 on 19th April 1915 at Eastchurch Naval Flying School Born 10th Feb 1893. had connections with Minehead, Somerset & Cardiff. No 4 Sqdn 04May1915 to 22nd Sept 1915. At Dunkirk 23rd Sept 1915 to 29th Dec 1916. No 1 Wing from 23rd Feb 1916 to 2nd Aug1916 Shot down by flak in 3990 4m N of Ypres 2nd Aug 1916 and killed Cokeley,Arthur Charles, Air Mech 2 F40526 an engineer. Enlisted 29th Oct 1917 A native of Cardiff. Became Air Mech 2 RAF 240526 on 1st Apr 1918 listed as tinsmith & sheet metal worker. Killed in action with 4 enemy seaplanes 20m SE of North Hinder in Felixstowe F2A N4513 on 4th July 1918 Pryce,Thomas herbert, Aircraftsman 2 F39373 a labourer enlisted 5th Oct 1917 a labourer Became Private 2 RAF 239373 on 1st Apr 1918 again a labourer No further details known Rhys-Evans,John Eric, Petty Officer Mechanic F1104 enlisted 24th Oct 1914 Born 23rd Nov 1887 at Brighton. RNAS Armoured Car Division No 10 Armoured Car Sqdn at Gallipoli April & May1915 WiA at Cape Helles on 2nd May 1915 and admitted to base hospital. This admission is recorded in National Archive file ADM101/332 Medical Officers Journal RNACD Gallipoli & Egypt No known grave and commemorated on Helles Memorial (CWGC records) Thayts all I have on these men Regards Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montbrehain Posted 9 October , 2006 Share Posted 9 October , 2006 hello Duncan, do you have any information on F37548 C H Potts O.S.3. RNAS. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aneurin Posted 9 October , 2006 Share Posted 9 October , 2006 Hi Duncan Many, many thanks for your information on the four Cardiff RNAS men, which is really appreciated. It will help greatly in my research. Very best wishes Aneurin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted 9 October , 2006 Share Posted 9 October , 2006 Hi Duncan, Thank you very much, you are a true gentleman, my Grandfather (RG Spence) flew from Stavros and went to 221 Squadron on the formation of the RAF where he spent a lot of his time bombing the Bulgars and doing night runs over Constantinople-you nicely filled in some gaps. Cheers, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumchapel Posted 14 October , 2006 Share Posted 14 October , 2006 hi duncan, wonder if you have anything on f1824 po mech james syme rnas, served armoured cars march - oct 1915, then later as private army service corps, probably a driver as his employment is shown as chauffeur, thanks david Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumchapel Posted 14 October , 2006 Share Posted 14 October , 2006 re po mech j h russell cgm, his details and photo appear in the glasgow high school roll of honour along with those of his twin brother glen russell who also served rnas armoured cars gallipoli and was also commissioned and killed in the raf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 14 October , 2006 Share Posted 14 October , 2006 hi duncan, wonder if you have anything on f1824 po mech james syme rnas, served armoured cars march - oct 1915, then later as private army service corps, probably a driver as his employment is shown as chauffeur, thanks david Hi David, I'm sorry I cant add anything to the details you gave, except to say that I can confirm them Regards Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 14 October , 2006 Share Posted 14 October , 2006 re po mech j h russell cgm, his details and photo appear in the glasgow high school roll of honour along with those of his twin brother glen russell who also served rnas armoured cars gallipoli and was also commissioned and killed in the raf Hi David I'm glad to say that I can add a lot this time. Russell,John Hepburn, F839. Applied to enlist in the RNVR as a motor cyclist in the Royal Naval Division but did not complete the enlistment papers 23rd October 1914. Enlisted in RNAS for service in armoured cars 28th October 1914. He served in No 3 Armoured Car Squadron at Gallipoli where he was on board the SS Clyde at the V beach landings. (A detaschment of the armoured car men were positioned in the bows to give some fire support during the landing with their machine guns) He was wounded in action (gpw abdomen) during the landing in making a rescue attempt to men wounded in the sea near the ship. For this action he was recommended for the VC by his commanding officer, but was only awarded the CGM (gazetted 16th August 1916, and MID 6th August 1916) [however the CGM is a far rarer medal than the VC only some 600 having ever been awarded] After his wounds he was admitted to Base Hospital but no further details. He was commissioned as a 2nd Lt RFC on 10th April1917. He was killed in a mid air collision in B6247 on 12th November 1917. Russell,Glen, F838. His enlistment details are identical to those given for his brother. No further details till he was commissioned as 2nd Lt in RFC on 16th November 1916. He was either KiA or DoW as a Pow when shot down E of Busigny in C1566 on 18th March 1918 Hope this helps Regards Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumchapel Posted 15 October , 2006 Share Posted 15 October , 2006 thanks duncan, very much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 16 October , 2006 Share Posted 16 October , 2006 Name: CARR, JOHN HENRY TALBOT Initials: J H T Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Flying Officer Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Age: 22 Date of Death: 20/05/1921 Additional information: Son of H. G. Talbot Carr and Daisy Shelley Carr, of Bradwell House, 6, Park Lane, Southwold. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: North of Church. Cemetery: SOUTHWOLD (ST. EDMUND) CHURCHYARD Anything on this chap please I strongly suspect that he had previously been a member of the RNAS Chris anything on this chap please Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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