David Seymour Posted 15 June , 2005 Share Posted 15 June , 2005 Duncan, It is very kind of you to offer look-ups. I am keen to discover more about: SURNAME: Pearson C/NAMES: William G. DOB: 8/91 UNIT: RNAS Russian Armoured Cars DATE OF DEATH: 1/7/17 AGE AT DEATH: 26 RANK: PO Mech NUMBER: F/10058 MEMORIAL: Poznan, Poland I would be most grateful for any assistance. Thank you. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 15 June , 2005 Share Posted 15 June , 2005 Hello Duncan Three of the men I'm researching from Chailey (Sussex) served in the RNAS. I have next to nothing on them so anything you can add will be much appreciated. AM L H Beal (mentioned in the local Parish magazine as serving between March 1916 and December 1917) Leading Mechanic Stephen King (ditto September 1915 to July 1919) AM Harry Urry (ditto August 1915 to November 1916) Best wishes Paul <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi Paul King Stephen, Air Mechanic 1st Class F7058 Enlisted 29th July 1915 An airship rigger Became Air Mechanic 1st Class [RAF] 1st April 1918 Off No 207058 No trace of him being a Leading Mechanic Nothing known of his service in RAF Urry,Henry James, Air Mechanic 1st Class F5127 Enlisted 28th May 1915 A driver RNAS Became Air Mechanic 1st Class [RAF] 1st April 1918 Off No 205127 A driver (petrol) RAF Nothing known of his service in RAF Driver (petrol) RAF Beal,L.H. or Beale,L.H. no trace. It may be that he was attached to the RNAS but was never formally transferred from the RN. It was possible that he was indeed rated as an Air Mechanic, but still officially an RN rating. If he was serving with the RNAS on 1st April 1918 he would have automatically been transferred to the RAF but in a series of numbers which were not listed in the RAF Muster List. I am at present slowly working through this other unpublished list but it will probably take at least ten days in the NA to sort out this list. If you have any info on any of these men I would be happy to add this to my list Regards Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 15 June , 2005 Share Posted 15 June , 2005 Duncan, It is very kind of you to offer look-ups. I am keen to discover more about: SURNAME: Pearson C/NAMES: William G. DOB: 8/91 UNIT: RNAS Russian Armoured Cars DATE OF DEATH: 1/7/17 AGE AT DEATH: 26 RANK: PO Mech NUMBER: F/10058 MEMORIAL: Poznan, Poland I would be most grateful for any assistance. Thank you. David <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi David Pearson,William George PO Mechanic F10058 Enlisted 16th November 1915 Born Huckfield cum Wilton, Norfolk on 21st August 1891 Killed by artillery fire at Brzezany, Russia on 1st July 1917 He is mentioned in the following sources The Czar's British Squadron: page 119 Airmen Died in the Great War: pages 11,221,325 Ratings Died in the service if the RN, RNR, RNVR, RNAS and RAF 1914-1919: page 290 Although he is not mentioned in them the reports submitted to the Admiralty by the Commander of the Russian Armoured Car Squadron, Oliver Locker-Lamson are held by the Fleet Air Arm Museum. They include an eye witness account of the Petrograd revolution and descriptions of the members of the Russian Court. This includes Rasputin, with an account of his death. Regards Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Nixon Posted 16 June , 2005 Share Posted 16 June , 2005 Duncan Thanks very much for the additional information supplied on the names I gave you. I can add little except that they were just three of around 360 names recorded in Chailey's Parish magazine during the First World War. The information is not always accurate but in the absence of surviving army service records for the majority, gives at least something to go on. The three men would have had connections with Chailey parish; either living in Chailey or one of the villages close by, working there or having been born there. As I uncover more information I'll certainly pass it on to you. Best wishes and thanks again. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Seymour Posted 16 June , 2005 Share Posted 16 June , 2005 Duncan, Thank you very much for looking up PEARSON. I knew some of the material, and have read the relevant section of The Czar's British Squadron. But I didn't know that he came from Hockwold cum Wilton, nor when he enlisted - so very many thanks for those gems. Your source gives Huckfield cum Wilton but that must be a corruption of Hockwold cum Wilton. Thanks again. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Nixon Posted 17 June , 2005 Share Posted 17 June , 2005 Duncan Here's the information I have on the three Chailey men you supplied additional data for. In each case I list the information as it first appears in Chailey's Parish Magazine, additions/amends to that infomation as the war progressed, plus the final entry. I'm guessing information was supplied to the vicar by relatives. Best wishes Paul Chailey Parish Magazine – Harry Urry August 1915 Harry Urry [Noted as serving King & Country] October 1915 Urry, Pte H, AM Aero Wing, Dardanelles November 1915 Urry, H, AM RNAS, Dardanelles August 1916 Urry, H, AM RNAS, Dardanelles. Wounded. November 1916 [Final entry] Urry, H, AM RNAS, Dardanelles Chailey Parish Magazine – Stephen King September 1915 Stephen King [Noted as serving King & Country] April 1916 King, S AM, RNAS, England September 1918 King, S, Leading Mechanic, RNAS July 1919 [Final entry] King, S, Leading Mechanic, RNAS Chailey Parish Magazine – L H Beal March 1916 Beal April 1916 Beal L H, AM, RNAS May 1916 Beal L H, AM, RNAS, England December 1916 Beal L H, AM, RNAS December 1917 [Final entry] Beal L H, AM, RNAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie 1978 Posted 17 June , 2005 Share Posted 17 June , 2005 Hi Jamie The only likely Grout I have is Sydney Armstrong, Aircraftsman 2nd Class F22547 Enlisted 24th October 1916 Born Troubridge, Kent on 20th June 1882 Left RNAS date unknown but prior to 1st April 1918 All I have at present but I may be able to add to this if you send me a further query in about 3 weeks time Regards Duncan <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Duncan, Thanks Jamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sappercalling Posted 18 July , 2005 Share Posted 18 July , 2005 Hi On my local Roll of Honour there is the following "elusive" Officer Probationary Flight Officer; G,W,R, BEACHER. RN. I have been unable to locate him, hope ypu can help Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 24 July , 2005 Share Posted 24 July , 2005 Hi On my local Roll of Honour there is the following "elusive" Officer Probationary Flight Officer; G,W,R, BEACHER. RN. I have been unable to locate him, hope ypu can help Peter <{POST_SNAPBACK}> George William Randolph Beacher Born 13th October 1899 place unknown Connections with Ripon Entered the RNAS as a Probationary Flight Officer on 15th October 1917 At Roehampton 15th October 1917 to 7th February 1918 Appointment terminated 08February 1918 He is listed in Flight Magazine of 18th October 1917 as being appointed PFO Nothing further known His period at Roehampton would suggest he was being trained for airship or balloon work, but proved unsuitable for some reason. If you later do manage to find out anything more on this man I would appreciate the information Hope this helps. Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brown Posted 25 July , 2005 Share Posted 25 July , 2005 Hello Duncan, I would appreciate a check please:- F18940 AM2 P Hedger Flt.S.Lt AW Archer Thank you. Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oak Posted 25 July , 2005 Share Posted 25 July , 2005 Duncan, On 25 April 1915 troops landed from the 'SS River Clyde' at 'V' Beach, Gallipoli, Turkey. Machine guns on the ship were manned by men of the RNAS Armoured Car Section, under the command of J.C. Wedgewood, who was a member of parliament. I would be very grateful for any information you might be able to give me on Wedgewood and -- if you are in a position to do so -- any of the RNAS men who were on the "River Clyde". Kind regards, Philip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 25 July , 2005 Share Posted 25 July , 2005 Hello Duncan, I would appreciate a check please:- F18940 AM2 P Hedger Flt.S.Lt AW Archer Thank you. Stuart <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Alfred William Archer Born Oliston, Derbys. on 6th October 1895 Connections with Etwall, Derbys. Enlisted in RNAS 13th November 1914 as a PO Mechanic F920 For service in Armoured Cars, believed as a motor cyclist Reverted to Air Mech 1st Class on disbandment of Armoured Cars as a general mechanic Served at Galliploi but no details known Appointed Flt Sub Lt 29th November 1917 At Greenwich 29th Nov 1917 - 26th Oct 1917 At Vendome 27th Nov 1917 - 1st Mar 1918 At Manston 2nd Mar1918 - 21st Mar 1918 At Dunkirk 22nd Mar 1918 - RAF career not yet researched Injured 26th Apr 1918 Philip Hedger Enlisted in RNAS as a Boy Mech F18940 date unknown but probably Aug1916 Rated Air Mech 2nd class 27th Jun 1917 (presumeably on his 18th birthday) Rated Air Mech 3rd class 1st Apr 1918 with RAF number 218940 No further details known If uyou find out any further info it would be appreciated Regards Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brown Posted 26 July , 2005 Share Posted 26 July , 2005 Alfred William Archer Philip Hedger <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hello Duncan, That is superb, thank you so much. Anything further on either of them I will PM to you. You probably have this but I came across Vendome in regard to a different enquiry. "A Flying School was opened by the R. N. A. S. at Vendome in November, 1916, and gradually expanded; the choice of the site was dictated by the fact that the winter weather in Central France is more suitable for flying training than it is in England." Regards Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sappercalling Posted 26 July , 2005 Share Posted 26 July , 2005 George William Randolph Beacher Born 13th October 1899 place unknown Connections with Ripon Entered the RNAS as a Probationary Flight Officer on 15th October 1917 At Roehampton 15th October 1917 to 7th February 1918 Appointment terminated 08February 1918 He is listed in Flight Magazine of 18th October 1917 as being appointed PFO Nothing further known His period at Roehampton would suggest he was being trained for airship or balloon work, but proved unsuitable for some reason. If you later do manage to find out anything more on this man I would appreciate the information Hope this helps. Duncan <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Duncan Many thanks for the info, Now I just need to find when he died. Will let you know of any outcome Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 27 July , 2005 Share Posted 27 July , 2005 Duncan, On 25 April 1915 troops landed from the 'SS River Clyde' at 'V' Beach, Gallipoli, Turkey. Machine guns on the ship were manned by men of the RNAS Armoured Car Section, under the command of J.C. Wedgewood, who was a member of parliament. I would be very grateful for any information you might be able to give me on Wedgewood and -- if you are in a position to do so -- any of the RNAS men who were on the "River Clyde". Kind regards, Philip <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Helloh Philip Wedgewood,George Josiah Clement Born 16th March 1872 place not known LCdr [RNVR] CO of No 3 Armoured Car Squadron 1914 - 1915 In charge of Detachment on SS River Clyde Took part in rescue work arround River Clyde during landings Wounded in action 9th May 1915 In action Krithia in support of 29th Division 28th April 1915 with his men DSO gazetted 8th November 1918 for Gallipoli MID 20th Nov 1914 and 5th August 1915 Died 26th July 1943 Transferred to Army date not known The only men of No 3 ACS I can identify are the award winners for their work during the landings. Both were awarded the Conspicuous Gallantry Medal.( A very rare award) They were Rumming,Geoffrey Charlton Paine, PO Mech F813 Born Purton, West Swindon on 2nd December 1888 Enlisted 27th October 1914 Wounded near Krithia June 1915 and died as a result on 4th November 1917 CGM gazetted 16th August 1915 Russell,John Hepburn PO Mech F839 Born Langside Glasgow on 11th November 1888 Enlisted 28th October 1914 as a motor cyclist with Armoured Cars Wounded in rescue attempts arround River Clyde 25th April 1915 Transferred to RFC November 1916 Killed in mid air collision 12th November 1917 CGM gazetted 16th August 1915 Sorry thats all I can manage. If you have any extra facts I would appreciate them Regards Duncan Believe he also served in the South African Infantry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oak Posted 28 July , 2005 Share Posted 28 July , 2005 Many thanks Duncan, I am very grateful. Kind regards, Philip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpaw Posted 28 July , 2005 Share Posted 28 July , 2005 Hi Duncan, Would you be kind enough to see what you have regarding my father, Flt. Sub-Lt. Arthur Strachan INCE, DSC, subsequently Sub-Lt. RNVR and Capt. RAF. Thanks in advance, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 29 July , 2005 Share Posted 29 July , 2005 Hi Duncan, Would you be kind enough to see what you have regarding my father, Flt. Sub-Lt. Arthur Strachan INCE, DSC, subsequently Sub-Lt. RNVR and Capt. RAF. Thanks in advance, Bill <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hello Bill Arthur Strachan Ince Born 31st October 1892 Connections with Toronto Trained at Curtis Flying School, Toronto prior to RNAS service Pilots Licence number not known Presumed that he entered the RNAS in UK and not in Canada FLt Sub Lt 13th July 1915 At Chingford 13th Jul 1915 - 10th Sep 1915 At Dover 11th Sep 1915 - 2nd Feb 1916 At White City 3rd Feb 1916 - 24th May 1916 At Eastchurch 25th May 1916 - 4th Jun 1916 At Calshot 1916 - 31st Mar1918 RAF details not yet researched from 1st April 1918 onwards Served as an armament officer when an RNVR Officer Sub Lt RNVR from 3rd Feb 1916 Promoted Lt RNVR 31st Dec 1916 Capt RAF 1st April 1918 Flew as observer with Flt Lt H.E.Cramford in BE2c 996 which crashed on landing on 25th Sep 1915 - location not known but based at Dover Flew as observer with Flt Sub Lt C.W. Graham on defensive patrol Whistle Buoy Area near Dunkirk 14th Dec 1915 in Nieuport 10 No.3971. Crew rescued by SS Balmoral Castle Shot down two-seater seaplane on above patrol and then ditched NE of La Panne DSC gazetted 24th Feb 1916 for the above action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 29 July , 2005 Share Posted 29 July , 2005 Hello Bill Arthur Strachan Ince Born 31st October 1892 Connections with Toronto Trained at Curtis Flying School, Toronto prior to RNAS service Pilots Licence number not known Presumed that he entered the RNAS in UK and not in Canada FLt Sub Lt 13th July 1915 At Chingford 13th Jul 1915 - 10th Sep 1915 At Dover 11th Sep 1915 - 2nd Feb 1916 At White City 3rd Feb 1916 - 24th May 1916 At Eastchurch 25th May 1916 - 4th Jun 1916 At Calshot 1916 - 31st Mar1918 RAF details not yet researched from 1st April 1918 onwards Served as an armament officer when an RNVR Officer Sub Lt RNVR from 3rd Feb 1916 Promoted Lt RNVR 31st Dec 1916 Capt RAF 1st April 1918 Flew as observer with Flt Lt H.E.Cramford in BE2c 996 which crashed on landing on 25th Sep 1915 - location not known but based at Dover Flew as observer with Flt Sub Lt C.W. Graham on defensive patrol Whistle Buoy Area near Dunkirk 14th Dec 1915 in Nieuport 10 No.3971. Crew rescued by SS Balmoral Castle Shot down two-seater seaplane on above patrol and then ditched NE of La Panne DSC gazetted 24th Feb 1916 for the above action <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry Bill I was a bit previous with hitting the send button. You might be interested in the fact that a Book is at present being researched on the subject of Canadian RNAS men. The researcher is a Captain J. Allan Snowie who works for Air Canada. I have his e-mail address if you e-mail me. If you can unearth any further info on your father I would appreciate a copy to add to my database. Regards Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 13 August , 2005 Share Posted 13 August , 2005 Duncan, On 25 April 1915 troops landed from the 'SS River Clyde' at 'V' Beach, Gallipoli, Turkey. Machine guns on the ship were manned by men of the RNAS Armoured Car Section, under the command of J.C. Wedgewood, who was a member of parliament. I would be very grateful for any information you might be able to give me on Wedgewood and -- if you are in a position to do so -- any of the RNAS men who were on the "River Clyde". Kind regards, Philip <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi Philip I've just found a note giving the numbers of RNAS men on the Clyde, but unfortunately I cant find the reference. Apart from Wedgewood, there were four officers plus one Surgeon and 72 ratings. I don't know if that is any help to you but you might as well have it Regards Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimeinvestigator Posted 13 April , 2006 Share Posted 13 April , 2006 I have information of virtually all men of the Royal Naval Air Service. This info varies from full name/official number up to very much more. These men would include attached RNVR officers and I am at present working on men of the RNVR Anti Aircraft Corps of the RNAS. Hi, I have a Group of 13 Medals to a Air Vice Marshal Charles William Nutting CB OBE DSC who was awarded a DSC whilst serving with the RNAS at Dunkirk in 1915-16, can you tell me anything about what he might have been doing, his entry for the DSC says for Observation & Communication, he was in the RNVR. Regards Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 13 April , 2006 Share Posted 13 April , 2006 Available at Kew is ADM 116/1717 Record of Service Ratings with Russian Armoured Cars 1916-1924 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 13 April , 2006 Share Posted 13 April , 2006 RNAS ratings service registers are included in the ADM 188 Registers of Seamen's Services now available online, but the details they give are very basic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 3 June , 2006 Share Posted 3 June , 2006 Hi Bryan, Sorry I,ve been very slow in replying to your query re C.W.Nutting. I have him as a w/t officer at Dunkirk at the relevant time. He then went on to be involved in w/t work in aircraft in HMS Riviera at about the end of 1916. He was promoted to Lt [RNVR] on 31Dec1917.He would appear to have continued in the RAF being promoted to Group Captain on 1st Jan 1933 but I have no further details of his RAF service. Regards Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perce620 Posted 19 June , 2006 Share Posted 19 June , 2006 Hi Do you have anything on this man f14680 E.L.S Neave AC1 RNAS any info gratefully rxed Cheers Perce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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