dickaren Posted 11 November , 2022 Share Posted 11 November , 2022 Guards as per Pete but at Combles? Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 11 November , 2022 Admin Share Posted 11 November , 2022 It’s not on the Somme battlefields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horrocks Posted 11 November , 2022 Share Posted 11 November , 2022 15 hours ago, Fattyowls said: I'm still beside the sofa but would that be Bazentin-le-Petit? I've been in the the Military cemetery but not the communal ones. Pete. Graves's graveyard, indeed. He reckoned he carried a bit of it in his brow throughout his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horrocks Posted 11 November , 2022 Share Posted 11 November , 2022 A Royal connection, and a poetic one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 11 November , 2022 Author Share Posted 11 November , 2022 16 minutes ago, horrocks said: A Royal connection, and a poetic one too. I knew the poetic connection but until about 45 seconds ago didn't know the royal connection. The poetic connection is Wagnerian and the royal one is itself Germanic, although at the time there were five to choose from, now there are six. That's if I've got it correct of course. Emphasis on the 'if'. It's a lovely photo whatever the case. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 11 November , 2022 Author Share Posted 11 November , 2022 3 hours ago, Michelle Young said: It’s not on the Somme battlefields. That is what the phrase 'back to the drawing board' was coined for. Did you have a personal reason for going there, Puchevillers possibly? The ground looks open enough and on the CWGC entry you can see some windmills in the distance. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horrocks Posted 11 November , 2022 Share Posted 11 November , 2022 You're certainly on the ball, Pete. There is also, of course, a Prime Ministerial connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 11 November , 2022 Author Share Posted 11 November , 2022 Just now, horrocks said: You're certainly on the ball, Pete. That is a first for me Toby. Still it's always good to try new things. As for the Prime Minister I immediately thought of Eden or MacMillan, but I associate the former with Ploegsteert and the Lys valley and the latter with Ginchy. I'm not aware of Atlee being on the Somme but that doesn't mean he wasn't, and there might be an involvement with the son of a prime minister; Gladstone or Asquith possibly. Haven't a clue would be the summary of all that I think. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Forge Posted 11 November , 2022 Share Posted 11 November , 2022 Hi @Michelle Young, might that be Montreuil-aux-Lions Cemetery? Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horrocks Posted 11 November , 2022 Share Posted 11 November , 2022 10 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: That is a first for me Toby. Still it's always good to try new things. As for the Prime Minister I immediately thought of Eden or MacMillan, but I associate the former with Ploegsteert and the Lys valley and the latter with Ginchy. I'm not aware of Atlee being on the Somme but that doesn't mean he wasn't, and there might be an involvement with the son of a prime minister; Gladstone or Asquith possibly. Haven't a clue would be the summary of all that I think. Pete. Herbert Asquith visited the Somme at the end of August 1916, and was taken to the Bois Francais to observe the battle. Raymond, who was on a training exercise, was summoned to meet his father at 'crossroads 6Kd', the junction at the foot of the hill. 'I vaulted into the saddle and bumped off to Fricourt where I arrived exactly at the appointed time. I waited for an hour on a very muddy road congested with troops and lorries and surrounded by barking guns. Then two handsome motors from G.H.Q. arrived, the P.M. in one of them with two staff officers, and in the other Bongie, Hankey and one or two of those moth-eaten nondescripts who hang about the corridors of Downing Street in the twilight region between the civil and domestic service. We went up to see some of the captured German dug-outs and just as we were arriving at our first objective the Boches began putting over a few 4.2 shells from their field howitzer. The PM was not discomposed by this, but the GHQ chauffeur to whom I handed over my horse to hold, flung the reins into the air and himself flat on his belly in the mud . . .'The party was escorted round the dug-out by several generals and after the shelling died down 'the P.M. drove off to luncheon with the G.O.C. 4th Army' while Asquith rode back to his billets. It was their last meeting. Raymond was killed on the 15th September during the assault on the Ginchy 'hogsback'. I had dinner with Raymond's great grandson the other night, who is a mine of information on this fascinating family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horrocks Posted 11 November , 2022 Share Posted 11 November , 2022 (edited) Am I right in saying that Eden was with the Guards at Ginchy-Lesboeufs, or was it Macmillan? Perhaps both. I seem to think that Macmillan was rather badly wounded there. Edit - I've now read your post properly, again, in which you set out that it was indeed Macmillan, not Eden. Edited 11 November , 2022 by horrocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 11 November , 2022 Admin Share Posted 11 November , 2022 24 minutes ago, Old Forge said: Hi @Michelle Young, might that be Montreuil-aux-Lions Cemetery? Richard Sorry, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Forge Posted 11 November , 2022 Share Posted 11 November , 2022 17 minutes ago, horrocks said: I had dinner with Raymond's great grandson the other night, who is a mine of information on this fascinating family. I’m having lunch with Attlee’s grandson on Sunday. Not such a mine of information but there will be plenty of beer 😊 Cheers, Richard Just now, Michelle Young said: Sorry, no. B*gger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 11 November , 2022 Admin Share Posted 11 November , 2022 It’s an area which has changed a great deal over the last few years. We couldn’t get to this cemetery plus one other close by in July owing to all the works. 7 minutes ago, Old Forge said: I’m having lunch with Attlee’s grandson on Sunday. Not such a mine of information but there will be plenty of beer 😊 Cheers, Richard Kenton Archer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Forge Posted 12 November , 2022 Share Posted 12 November , 2022 Not Kenton Archer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 12 November , 2022 Admin Share Posted 12 November , 2022 The actor Richard Attlee is the only one of his grandsons I’m aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Forge Posted 12 November , 2022 Share Posted 12 November , 2022 (edited) On 12/11/2022 at 09:13, Michelle Young said: The actor Richard Attlee is the only one of his grandsons I’m aware of. I've no doubt got the relationship slightly out, but Rupert is same surname and a close relative. I've always assumed (for 30 years + now) that he's a grandson! Cheers, Richard Added on Monday - turns out my great friend Rupert's dad was Clement's cousin. I'd always though Rupes was a grandson! Edited 14 November , 2022 by Old Forge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 19 November , 2022 Admin Share Posted 19 November , 2022 On 06/11/2022 at 10:04, Michelle Young said: Continuing the difficult access theme, we could get to this cemetery in June. Which cemetery? You might near birdsong ………. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 19 November , 2022 Author Share Posted 19 November , 2022 As in Sebastian Faulks? Are we somewhere around Amiens? Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 19 November , 2022 Admin Share Posted 19 November , 2022 No, and no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 19 November , 2022 Author Share Posted 19 November , 2022 How about Cuckoo Passage? Are they extending the windmills along the ridge that Tunnel Trench ran behind? Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 19 November , 2022 Admin Share Posted 19 November , 2022 Well done Pete, the whole area is bristling with éoliennes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickaren Posted 20 November , 2022 Share Posted 20 November , 2022 And this one is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 21 November , 2022 Admin Share Posted 21 November , 2022 Goodness, I haven’t been to this cemetery for donkeys years. Must put that right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 21 November , 2022 Share Posted 21 November , 2022 I've no idea, but it's a nice moody picture with that background mist and the hint of an horizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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