Admin Michelle Young Posted 19 February , 2021 Admin Share Posted 19 February , 2021 Bois de Noulette it is. I spy the modern day Double Crassier in your photo Pete, and the pylons look like the ones that traverse the Hohenzollern Redoubt. Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 19 February , 2021 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2021 8 hours ago, Michelle Young said: I spy the modern day Double Crassier in your photo Pete A good spot Michelle, but these aren't the droids pylons you are looking for. I was thinking of a clue based on the fact that most of us have climbed up one of the features on the horizon but those who have photographed the landscape from the slag heaps are a much more select group. Next time I'm at that location I must try to get both slag heaps into the picture, I think I only realised they were visible when I downloaded the photos. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Regiano Posted 19 February , 2021 Share Posted 19 February , 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Fattyowls said: walk that way up to where the Schwaben Redoubt was Coming down the road from the Ulster Tower and take the right turn to St. Pierre Divion and you get a good insight into the lie of the land and why the Germans chose to establish themselves next to the river. You can park behind the church (you can just see the top of my car in the picture above) but watch out for the rather unpleasant dog in the adjacent red bricked house. It's a long way up so don't forget your walking poles: 15 hours ago, Fattyowls said: another Schwaben redoubt where the Lochnagar crater now is Schwabenhohe Edited 19 February , 2021 by Don Regiano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 19 February , 2021 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2021 42 minutes ago, Don Regiano said: but watch out for the rather unpleasant dog in the adjacent red bricked house Top tip Reg. I might have to stock up with the French equivalent of Winalot or some other canine treats to distract it. I remember walking up to the entrance of Fort St Michel which overlooks Verdun and having a stare out contest with the meanest looking dog I think I've ever seen. The road up to the Ulster Tower from the valley is steep enough but at least has the prospect of ice cream at the top as an incentive. Not that I'm obsessed with ice cream, I haven't got a problem, I can stop any time I want........ Pete. P.S. Thinking about it I might approach the steep track by going via Mill Road and walking down. I can work the ice cream in that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horrocks Posted 19 February , 2021 Share Posted 19 February , 2021 The walk from St Pierre Divion up onto the Thiepval heights, on to the Ulster Tower and back down Mill Road doesn't take too long. My companion and I did it one beautiful May morning a couple of years ago, the mist rising through the trees in the valley, and were back at Battery Valley Farm in time for a very hearty breakfast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Regiano Posted 19 February , 2021 Share Posted 19 February , 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fattyowls said: I might approach the steep track by going via Mill Road and walking down I thought you might take the easy way! It's not too difficult really. Edited 19 February , 2021 by Don Regiano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horrocks Posted 19 February , 2021 Share Posted 19 February , 2021 The zoom lens has the interesting effect of drawing the trees up on the Newfoundland Park very close. One ponders upon the horrors enclosed within the frame of that photograph. It all looks so benign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horrocks Posted 19 February , 2021 Share Posted 19 February , 2021 Reverting, if I may, to Caterpillar Valley, I recalled that the Montauban spire was (just) visible in this photograph, and was the reason for my confusion as to the axis of your picture. Did we establish which church it actually was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 19 February , 2021 Admin Share Posted 19 February , 2021 7 hours ago, Fattyowls said: A good spot Michelle, but these aren't the droids pylons you are looking for. I was thinking of a clue based on the fact that most of us have climbed up one of the features on the horizon but those who have photographed the landscape from the slag heaps are a much more select group. Next time I'm at that location I must try to get both slag heaps into the picture, I think I only realised they were visible when I downloaded the photos. Pete. Have you climbed up to the viewing platform at Dud Corner? And are you at the Quarry Cemetery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frajohn Posted 19 February , 2021 Share Posted 19 February , 2021 Hi The Church in Pete's photograph is Saint-Pierre, in Martinpuich. The 1st image below is an attempt to replicate Pete's image, The second is the same image, blown up so you can clearly see the newly renovated towering steeple of the church. Kind regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frajohn Posted 19 February , 2021 Share Posted 19 February , 2021 Here's one taken recently, it has a VC holder. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 19 February , 2021 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2021 55 minutes ago, Frajohn said: The Church in Pete's photograph is Saint-Pierre, in Martinpuich. Thanks John. As you know I have walked to Caterpillar Valley from Martinpuich in the company of a recently retired inhabitant of Chicago, Illinois and both of us doubted that it was St Pierre in the distance. I wonder if it is because the village is in the dip, you don't expect to be able to see it. My Picardie église spotting record is patchy to say the least. Hope all is well with you and Mrs K, Pete. *who looks forward to returning as soon as things get back to some kind of normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 19 February , 2021 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2021 3 hours ago, Michelle Young said: Have you climbed up to the viewing platform at Dud Corner? And are you at the Quarry Cemetery Yes but that's not where the photo is from and Quarry would be taking you even further away. The location has a deep significance for amigos from Kingston. 6 hours ago, horrocks said: It all looks so benign. I feel the same way about almost all of mine. A particularly striking example are the ones I have taken of Mash Valley; I hope to recreate the photo from the 3rd July 1916 which appeared I think in the Sphere magazine which shows the village under fire and what appear to be lots of little hummocks in the valley. The last time I didn't want to go trampling through the crops. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 20 February , 2021 Admin Share Posted 20 February , 2021 I think Pete I see going to have to reveal the location of his photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 20 February , 2021 Admin Share Posted 20 February , 2021 Meanwhile, where is Mr Young sitting enjoying listening the cuckoos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horrocks Posted 20 February , 2021 Share Posted 20 February , 2021 16 hours ago, Frajohn said: Hi The Church in Pete's photograph is Saint-Pierre, in Martinpuich. The 1st image below is an attempt to replicate Pete's image, The second is the same image, blown up so you can clearly see the newly renovated towering steeple of the church. Kind regards John Ah, finally I've got it - and the wood is of course High Wood. I've been completely thrown by the fact that the photo was taken out of the side of the structure in my B&W photo above, whilst my brain was trying to tell me that it was taken out of the front. Daft as a brush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 20 February , 2021 Author Share Posted 20 February , 2021 39 minutes ago, Michelle Young said: I think Pete I see going to have to reveal the location of his photo. But before I do I will unleash a couple more clues. The Kingston is question is silent, the fourth group of amigos where called t'others, the wood features in my favourite John Nash painting and my interest in the area is as a result of the wounding and capture of the father and namesake of a former England football manager. If all this doesn't work I'll post a panoramic of the whole area which might help. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 20 February , 2021 Author Share Posted 20 February , 2021 19 minutes ago, horrocks said: Daft as a brush. I don't think so somehow, I wonder if it is a question of us being very familiar with the view and then looking at just a portion out of context. One of the things I am picking up from this thread is that many views I take are the obvious ones; I nearly always take a photo of High Wood from the other side of the road from the entrance to Caterpillar Valley for example. Pete. P.S. I like the description of the early morning walk around St Pierre-Divion; presumably it was too early for ice cream? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 20 February , 2021 Admin Share Posted 20 February , 2021 Oppy wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 20 February , 2021 Author Share Posted 20 February , 2021 5 minutes ago, Michelle Young said: Oppy wood Correct Michelle. I was going to mention that there are two pylons not carrying electricity on the horizon, as I've seen the Vimy Ridge Canadian memorial described that way. I think the spire of Vimy church may be visible, and/or Givenchy-en-Gohelle possibly. The memorial is over five and a half miles distant and the southern end of the ridge nearly three if Google Earth is to be believed. Pete. P.S. So just John's cunningly doctored cemetery with the VC winner and Where's Wayne No. 2 with added cuckoos outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 20 February , 2021 Admin Share Posted 20 February , 2021 Can you post the panorama please Pete? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 20 February , 2021 Author Share Posted 20 February , 2021 8 minutes ago, Michelle Young said: Can you post the panorama please Pete? As it's you, yes. I'm starting to wonder if I can really see the memorial in my original given the distance, but what else would be sticking up in that direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 20 February , 2021 Admin Share Posted 20 February , 2021 Is John at Vraucourt Copse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 20 February , 2021 Author Share Posted 20 February , 2021 6 minutes ago, Michelle Young said: Is John at Vraucourt Copse? Which would make Private Hugh McIver the VC. He had MM and bar to go with it. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frajohn Posted 20 February , 2021 Share Posted 20 February , 2021 Hi Michelle Correct, your turn with the cigar! Pete you are also correct! Kind regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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