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17 hours ago, Dave66 said:

Dan,

Found an usual one, not your typical postcard but it does show an interesting part of the enlistment process.

It was given to me by one of my customers who was having a clear out, along with a period photo of a sergeant major Sayer, R.E...see what you think.

I do aim to be at Malvern militaria in March...been saving my pennies, but theres also a large flea market at the same venue in a couple of weeks time and if I spend too much there...ill be on a ban!!!

The militaria is great for bayonets, guns and the bigger stuff, but the flea markets can be a good source for the bits and bobs...usually a good few hundred stalls and takes all day to get round at times.

 

Dave.

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Morning Dave,

 

What was this card for? Did the association offer help and assistance to soldiers families?

 

Dan

13 hours ago, chaz said:

enjoy the cards, we have a few but not our main theme.

as a hint, for displaying and keeping tidy (the wife is kept happier) , as people don't take photographs and print them nowadays, you can find small postcard size photo albums at car boot sales or cheap in photo shops. ours holds over 100 individually sleeved. advantage is you can put one in and see front then turn over and see back.

only A5 or smaller size and takes up the space of 2 or 3 paperback books .

Good idea Chaz, I'm actually on the look out for a photo album. Been trying to find an older looking one.

 

Dan

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Another two -

 

You can't tell from this scan but Kitchener and his medals are raised on this card.

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8 hours ago, Bean tool said:

What was this card for? Did the association offer help and assistance to soldiers families?

 

The charity is now known as the S.S.A.F.A., and is still doing charitable work in support of our armed forces and their families, it was then known as Soldiers and Sailors Forces Association as the flying corps etc was still at that time in its very early stages. They provided support in many ways and one such way was to keep families informed as to their loved ones.

I presume once a young man was called up, or volunteered, there was a period of time where he was in limbo, medical's etc, and his family did not have a direct point of contact if there was a domestic crisis, so they acted as a point of contact and could make enquiries as to his wearabouts if needed urgently.

A most valuable contribution to the war effort.

 

Dave.

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11 hours ago, Dave66 said:

The charity is now known as the S.S.A.F.A., and is still doing charitable work in support of our armed forces and their families, it was then known as Soldiers and Sailors Forces Association as the flying corps etc was still at that time in its very early stages. They provided support in many ways and one such way was to keep families informed as to their loved ones.

I presume once a young man was called up, or volunteered, there was a period of time where he was in limbo, medical's etc, and his family did not have a direct point of contact if there was a domestic crisis, so they acted as a point of contact and could make enquiries as to his wearabouts if needed urgently.

A most valuable contribution to the war effort.

 

Dave.

Indeed it was/is Dave. I've often wondered whether the family would have to wait until the soldier got in contact with them. Or how they would direct mail when their loved one was serving in the lines. Anyhow, the postal service at the time did a grand job. 

 

Dan

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8 hours ago, Sturmmann1918 said:

Picked this one up recently at a postcard show!

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Brilliant card Sturmmann. The text is great

 

Dan

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Another two - 

 

 

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Cheers all

 

Dan

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16 minutes ago, Bean tool said:

Another two - 

 

 

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Cheers all

 

Dan

Another fine selection Dan, can't quite work out which one out of all you've posted is my favourite...just goes to show the varied selection that's still out there and in such good condition.

 

15 hours ago, Sturmmann1918 said:

Picked this one up recently at a postcard show!

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Many thanks sturmmann, like it.

 

all the best,

Dave.

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47 minutes ago, Dave66 said:

Another fine selection Dan, can't quite work out which one out of all you've posted is my favourite...just goes to show the varied selection that's still out there and in such good condition.

Indeed Dave. I picked up two on eBay the other day. One is really quite good. The graphics are completely different to any I've seen and actually very modern in it's approach. I found a couple of silk ones at the antique shop so will be keeping my eyes open for them now also. 

 

Dan

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21 minutes ago, Bean tool said:

Indeed Dave. I picked up two on eBay the other day. One is really quite good. The graphics are completely different to any I've seen and actually very modern in it's approach. I found a couple of silk ones at the antique shop so will be keeping my eyes open for them now also. 

 

Dan

I tend to avoid buying on eBay to be honest, I do regularly look at the field gear as it does keep me in touch with the prices things achieve. However I can never understand the variation in prices for the same fairly standard items...can be quite amusing sometimes and gives some sort of relative value.

Saying that, I've had to buy on a few occasions when the unusual and rare crop up with a fair buy it now price....red wine and auctions do not go well together!!!

 

Dave.

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1 hour ago, Dave66 said:

I tend to avoid buying on eBay to be honest, I do regularly look at the field gear as it does keep me in touch with the prices things achieve. However I can never understand the variation in prices for the same fairly standard items...can be quite amusing sometimes and gives some sort of relative value.

Saying that, I've had to buy on a few occasions when the unusual and rare crop up with a fair buy it now price....red wine and auctions do not go well together!!!

 

Dave.

Do you find a lot of cards on offer at the fairs you go to? I'm not a lover of eBay but sometimes I get carried away and can't help myself. And that's without the influence of alcohol! 

 

Cheers Dave

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13 minutes ago, Bean tool said:

Do you find a lot of cards on offer at the fairs you go to? I'm not a lover of eBay but sometimes I get carried away and can't help myself. And that's without the influence of alcohol! 

 

Cheers Dave

There can be some dealers at both the flea and militaria fairs that specialise in ephemera of all kinds, I find it much easier to deal with real people and actually see the object...whatever it is. You occasionally find private sellers with good fresh to the market stuff of all kinds, but some days can be extremely poor with an awfull lot of tat so luck of the draw at times.

out of interest, what would you pay on average per card in a typical auction if no buy it now?

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4 minutes ago, Dave66 said:

There can be some dealers at both the flea and militaria fairs that specialise in ephemera of all kinds, I find it much easier to deal with real people and actually see the object...whatever it is. You occasionally find private sellers with good fresh to the market stuff of all kinds, but some days can be extremely poor with an awfull lot of tat so luck of the draw at times.

out of interest, what would you pay on average per card in a typical auction if no buy it now?

What's your favourite fair/flea market to go to?

 

On average £5 online, £3 where I've seen them in shops. The silks are considerably more and I'm watching a couple at the moment which are £60-£80 (I wont be bidding!) But on average £8-£10. I'll be honest some peple take the mickey, one seller has listed everyone of thier cards (Not silk) at £17.99 which, in my opinion, is just greedy. Each to their own I guess 

 

Dan

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16 minutes ago, Bean tool said:

What's your favourite fair/flea market to go to?

 

On average £5 online, £3 where I've seen them in shops. The silks are considerably more and I'm watching a couple at the moment which are £60-£80 (I wont be bidding!) But on average £8-£10. I'll be honest some peple take the mickey, one seller has listed everyone of thier cards (Not silk) at £17.99 which, in my opinion, is just greedy. Each to their own I guess 

 

Dan

Seem fair prices to pay as the ones I've seen of yours seem a bit better than the ordinary ones listed. I've seen similar sellers myself selling pages from books as original prints for as high as 20 quid a pop, and I often wonder how they stay in business...on the other hand I quite admire their bravery!!

I only ever go to the Malvern ones as within 15 miles, quite lucky to have it on my doorstep.

most of the stuff I'm after is getting harder to find now wherever you are, and sometimes I've found things purely down to luck at times.

 

Dave.

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39 minutes ago, Bean tool said:

What's your favourite fair/flea market to go to?

 

On average £5 online, £3 where I've seen them in shops. The silks are considerably more and I'm watching a couple at the moment which are £60-£80 (I wont be bidding!) But on average £8-£10. I'll be honest some peple take the mickey, one seller has listed everyone of thier cards (Not silk) at £17.99 which, in my opinion, is just greedy. Each to their own I guess 

 

Dan

Cards/medals etc. are worth what someone is prepared to pay for them.  I regularly buy from an ebay seller and pay £12.99/card for named men, I think £15 is the most I've paid.

  I have a card showing a titled RHA officer I bought for £1, I later discovered the officer's identity  when an identical  postcard sold on ebay for £50.

  There are plenty of overpriced cards on ebay that have gone unsold for months.  Top of the "greedy" pile are sellers who split postcard/medal collections to maximise profits.

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6 minutes ago, Dave66 said:

Seem fair prices to pay as the ones I've seen of yours seem a bit better than the ordinary ones listed. I've seen similar sellers myself selling pages from books as original prints for as high as 20 quid a pop, and I often wonder how they stay in business...on the other hand I quite admire their bravery!!

I only ever go to the Malvern ones as within 15 miles, quite lucky to have it on my doorstep.

most of the stuff I'm after is getting harder to find now wherever you are, and sometimes I've found things purely down to luck at times.

 

Dave.

I haven't spent over £10 on normal card, however I spent £16 on a silk a while back. I do worry about authenticity but so far so good. 

 

I will have to try Malvern flea market, it's only 15 miles from me also. I'm after a trench whistle but want to buy one i can look at first 

 

Dan

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3 minutes ago, GWF1967 said:

 

  There are plenty of overpriced cards on ebay that have gone unsold for months.  Top of the "greedy" pile are sellers who split postcard/medal collections to maximise profits.

That's the thing, weather it be postcards or any other collectable.....they stay on there for an awfully long time, in wait for the one who is prepared to pay the price.

I remember a long long while ago seeing a maxim scope with an eye watering price on it....still occasionally pops its head up.

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11 minutes ago, GWF1967 said:

Cards/medals etc. are worth what someone is prepared to pay for them.  I regularly buy from an ebay seller and pay £12.99/card for named men, I think £15 is the most I've paid.

  I have a card showing a titled RHA officer I bought for £1, I later discovered the officer's identity  when an identical  postcard sold on ebay for £50.

  There are plenty of overpriced cards on ebay that have gone unsold for months.  Top of the "greedy" pile are sellers who split postcard/medal collections to maximise profits.

I haven't purchased any photo cards. However I do have one that was placed in the back of a very old book I purchased recently. 3 ramc chaps, I'll post it up tomorrow. 

 

Dan

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Bean tool said:

will have to try Malvern flea market, it's only 15 miles from me also. I'm after a trench whistle but want to buy one i can look at first

I have been very lucky over the years and found 15 or so, most of them there....but do be careful of the aged reproductions, easy to spot once you know. They are getting harder to find as most are now finding their way onto eBay fetching far much more than I've ever paid, and I know of at least 3 traders buying stock that are there at the crack of dawn. The last one I got was a 17 dated decourcey with strap for 35 quid but probably 18 months ago.

 

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1 minute ago, Dave66 said:

I have been very lucky over the years and found 15 or so, most of them there....but do be careful of the aged reproductions, easy to spot once you know. They are getting harder to find as most are now finding their way onto eBay fetching far much more than I've ever paid, and I know of at least 3 traders buying stock that are there at the crack of dawn. The last one I got was a 17 dated decourcey with strap for 35 quid but probably 18 months ago.

 

I see. There's been a few online going for £60-£80 and I wasn't sure whether this was the going rate so to speak. What should I look for? Date, broad arrow etc. Any tips? 

 

Cheers Dave

 

Dan

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2 minutes ago, Bean tool said:

I see. There's been a few online going for £60-£80 and I wasn't sure whether this was the going rate so to speak. What should I look for? Date, broad arrow etc. Any tips? 

 

Cheers Dave

 

Dan

Online they can go for as little as 40 at times, and I've seen them go for as much as 120 and more. The secrets in looking for the concave suspension ring at the top as the copies are completely flat similar to A.R.P. Whistles. Patent number on Hudsons should be 5727-08, Hudson dated them but up until 1915 had 2 sizes of date stamp...I have both and quite normal. 

Not always broad arrow stamped, but sometimes stamped on the body between the two gaps under the date, and sometimes on the suspension ring.

 

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5 minutes ago, Dave66 said:

Online they can go for as little as 40 at times, and I've seen them go for as much as 120 and more. The secrets in looking for the concave suspension ring at the top as the copies are completely flat similar to A.R.P. Whistles. Patent number on Hudsons should be 5727-08, Hudson dated them but up until 1915 had 2 sizes of date stamp...I have both and quite normal. 

Not always broad arrow stamped, but sometimes stamped on the body between the two gaps under the date, and sometimes on the suspension ring.

 

£175 is the top ebay price today,  or credit terms are available - £15.57/Month x 12 months!

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9 minutes ago, Dave66 said:

Online they can go for as little as 40 at times, and I've seen them go for as much as 120 and more. The secrets in looking for the concave suspension ring at the top as the copies are completely flat similar to A.R.P. Whistles. Patent number on Hudsons should be 5727-08, Hudson dated them but up until 1915 had 2 sizes of date stamp...I have both and quite normal. 

Not always broad arrow stamped, but sometimes stamped on the body between the two gaps under the date, and sometimes on the suspension ring.

 

Thanks Dave. I know more now than I did before 

 

Dan

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20 minutes ago, GWF1967 said:

£175 is the top ebay price today,  or credit terms are available - £15.57/Month x 12 months!

Makes ones eyes water.....I once saw a very rare whistle in the shape of a Great War tank sell fo somewhere in the region of 500, maybe more. I must admit I do keep my eyes peeled but never been lucky enough for anything similar.

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24 minutes ago, Bean tool said:

Thanks Dave. I know more now than I did before 

 

Dan

There's a very informative site on Hudson whistles...whistleshop.co.uk which I found invaluable, gives all addresses and history of the general service whistle and its evolution. Well worth a peek on a wet weekend if you're considering buying one as has images of military dated whistles by year going back to before the boer war.

 

Dave.

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