The Prussian Posted 3 November , 2016 Share Posted 3 November , 2016 I couldn´t find any german troops in that area during the war. (around Vranje, the next large city). Probably the photo was taken by bulgarian units??? Here is a part of a map of the Serbia october 1915 - january 1916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 3 November , 2016 Share Posted 3 November , 2016 by the way... In the background of the cemetery we see another cross, named Richard Pohlmann Batterie 331. Here he is: http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/4048775 Fußartillerie-Batterie 331, Gefreiter Pohlmann. It´s interesting, that both men came from the north of Germany (IX.Army Corps). The photo must have been taken at the western front near Verdun (5th army) The Fußartillerie-Batterie 331 was engaged: 20.3.-7.4.1916 Avocourt, Malancourt, Haucourt 9.4.-29.5.1916: Hill 304 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 3 November , 2016 Share Posted 3 November , 2016 Back to Serbia. I found, that 2/3 of the german 6th Inf.Div. had been in Vranje end of november 1915! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 3 November , 2016 Author Share Posted 3 November , 2016 In order to avoid distracting from this uniform thread I have started a NEW THREAD ON THESE PICTURES HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 3 November , 2016 Share Posted 3 November , 2016 (edited) 12 hours ago, AliceF said: # 580: Für Gott, Kaiser Franz und Vaterland ?!? K.u.K.? Christine I can see what you mean, and I did wonder about the eagle, but German uniforms and weaponry, and so a German unit. Julian PS: Posted on this thread as this is where the photograph is! Edited 3 November , 2016 by trajan Add PS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 7 November , 2016 Author Share Posted 7 November , 2016 Some group shots from a small lot I found this weekend: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 7 November , 2016 Author Share Posted 7 November , 2016 Sometimes they make identifying the unit easier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trajan Posted 7 November , 2016 Share Posted 7 November , 2016 1 hour ago, 4thGordons said: Some group shots from a small lot I found this weekend: The photographs (no. 606) were posted too close together w/o a space, and so I could not edit this 'quote' just to show the top one. But, I think the pickelhaube guys are Saxons, as shown by the cuff, and also the wappen, which in Saxony have a nickel centre to a tombak star. They are almost all NCO's, but the mix of uniforms and ages, and of medals, suggests to me reserves/depot? What is the number though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 7 November , 2016 Share Posted 7 November , 2016 Hello! I agree. Saxons. because of the ages of the guys I assume Landwehr too 607 is 3rd "Korporalschaft" (section? = a quarter of a platoon) of 5th company Landwehr-Regiment 60 from Weißenburg (Lorraine) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 7 November , 2016 Share Posted 7 November , 2016 15 minutes ago, The Prussian said: Hello! I agree. Saxons. because of the ages of the guys I assume Landwehr too 607 is 3rd "Korporalschaft" (section? = a quarter of a platoon) of 5th company Landwehr-Regiment 60 from Weißenburg (Lorraine) Andi, what do you think of the medal ribbons worn by the senior chap in 606? I though Franco-Prussian on the left, but the other is not the centennial medal, which would be usual with a Franco-Prussian medal - I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 7 November , 2016 Share Posted 7 November , 2016 2 hours ago, 4thGordons said: Some group shots from a small lot I found this weekend: What a mixture there? Saxon cuffs on the chap sitting down and man with crossed arms to the right, and so I assume Saxon (Leib) Grenadier 100 or 101 on two standing... Hmm... got to go will come back later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 7 November , 2016 Share Posted 7 November , 2016 13 minutes ago, trajan said: Andi, what do you think of the medal ribbons worn by the senior chap in 606? I though Franco-Prussian on the left, but the other is not the centennial medal, which would be usual with a Franco-Prussian medal - I think! Hello Julian! I´m not a specialist in medals and ribbons... What do you mean with "franco-prussian" medal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 7 November , 2016 Share Posted 7 November , 2016 17 minutes ago, trajan said: What a mixture there? Saxon cuffs on the chap sitting down and man with crossed arms to the right, and so I assume Saxon (Leib) Grenadier 100 or 101 on two standing... Hmm... got to go will come back later... The sign says "Erinnerung an Commando Königsbrück", which is in saxony. Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 7 November , 2016 Share Posted 7 November , 2016 26 minutes ago, The Prussian said: Hello Julian! I´m not a specialist in medals and ribbons... What do you mean with "franco-prussian" medal? I'm bad on medals, also, but the ribbon stripes reminded me of the Kriegsdenkmünze für die Feldzüge 1870–71 16 minutes ago, AOK4 said: The sign says "Erinnerung an Commando Königsbrück", which is in saxony. Jan Ahah! Nice one! A training base? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 7 November , 2016 Share Posted 7 November , 2016 Yes, mate: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truppenübungsplatz_Königsbrück Training ground of th saxon XII.AK. 4709 hectare, 89 are, 17 square metre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 7 November , 2016 Share Posted 7 November , 2016 3 hours ago, 4thGordons said: Sometimes they make identifying the unit easier! This above for 607 1 hour ago, The Prussian said: 607 is 3rd "Korporalschaft" (section? = a quarter of a platoon) of 5th company Landwehr-Regiment 60 from Weißenburg (Lorraine) Some have the Mützenverdeckbänd over their State cockades, which I think was introduced in 1916? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 7 November , 2016 Share Posted 7 November , 2016 The Mützenverdeckband was introduced for infantry, MG-troops, engeneers and cavalry march, 29, 1915. Bavaria April 30, 1915, Saxony April 22, 1915 and Wurttenberg April 13. 1915 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 7 November , 2016 Share Posted 7 November , 2016 3 hours ago, 4thGordons said: I'm thinking Bavarian (cockades) and II Armee Korps (no piping in the cuffs). And S.98's and so pre-1915. (Break for a "Prussian" input) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 7 November , 2016 Share Posted 7 November , 2016 5 minutes ago, The Prussian said: The Mützenverdeckband was introduced for infantry, MG-troops, engeneers and cavalry march, 29, 1915. Bavaria April 30, 1915, Saxony April 22, 1915 and Wurttenberg April 13. 1915 Many thanks Andi! I had always thought 1916 for some reason... Typically Bavarian, though, to leave it to the end to adopt the thing. Do you have the DVE or whatever numbers for these introductions or a source I can quote in future? I am always astounded at how little seems to be known anywhere about the Mützenverdeckbander, even though they (like the presence/absence of State Cockades) are so useful for dating purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 7 November , 2016 Share Posted 7 November , 2016 No, i don´t have a DVE about that. I´ve got those infos from the brilliant books of Mr. Kraus. Unfortunately only availabe in german language: http://www.militaria.at/Book.aspx?book=4074840&Language=de 30 minutes ago, trajan said: I'm thinking Bavarian (cockades) and II Armee Korps (no piping in the cuffs). And S.98's and so pre-1915. (Break for a "Prussian" input) The break... Nothing to add.... I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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4thGordons Posted 7 November , 2016 Author Share Posted 7 November , 2016 7 hours ago, 4thGordons said: The reverse: The date I carelessly covered when scanning is 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 7 November , 2016 Author Share Posted 7 November , 2016 Last one of this week's haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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