David Ridgus Posted 3 March , 2023 Share Posted 3 March , 2023 Joint effort (and that's over egging my contribution). You did all the leg work. And I still have no idea why Pete thought I'd be particularly taken by this chap David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 3 March , 2023 Share Posted 3 March , 2023 David has it in a Royal Berkshire photo finish from Mr K. Prince Antônio Gastão Filipe Francisco de Assis Maria Miguel Gabriel Rafael Gonzaga de Orléans e Bragança it is in the full Portuguese, as he was the grandson of Emperor Pedro II of Brazil. Through his father he was great grandson of the last king of France, Louis Philippe. He was born in Paris, served in the Austro-Hungarian cavalry before the war but was barred from serving France due to his royal connections. He therefore joined the Canadian forces, was seconded to the RFC where he won the MC. He was killed just after the armistice in what is now suburban north London, but was interred in the Royal Chapel at Dreux west of Paris, which must be the CWGC's most aristocratic site. As to why I held him back I thought it would be a good one to mark the return to first team action of one of the team stalwarts, so it is nice that you got it, with huge plaudits to the other half of the Berkshire posse of course. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ridgus Posted 3 March , 2023 Share Posted 3 March , 2023 As ever, my friend, a kind thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 “I am a Feather for each Wind that blows” just back from the home of The Bard so catching up. On 03/03/2023 at 13:10, tankengine888 said: I probably should say something tea Is a soupcon Earl Grey involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankengine888 Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 2 hours ago, ilkley remembers said: “I am a Feather for each Wind that blows” just back from the home of The Bard so catching up. Is a soupcon Earl Grey involved? just woke up from sleeping on a stone floor with a nice and handy 6 hours of sleep.. I don't think Earl Gray was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 Well done the Reading posse.👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 13 minutes ago, tankengine888 said: I don't think Earl Gray was. Our feathered friend needs a rethink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 1 minute ago, ilkley remembers said: Our feathered friend needs a rethink I believe he removed the feathers from his hat and made himself a comfy pillow so that he could have a kip, thereby failing to capitalise on the Sulva invasion. Sacked shortly afterwards. He is General Stopford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankengine888 Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, neverforget said: I believe he removed the feathers from his hat and made himself a comfy pillow so that he could have a kip, thereby failing to capitalise on the Sulva invasion. Sacked shortly afterwards. He is General Stopford. Good show! And because of your guess, I am off to Avalon Airshow.. Edit: Probably should say it more clearly.. You got it Edited 4 March , 2023 by tankengine888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 Just now, tankengine888 said: Good show! And because of your guess, I am off to Avalon Airshow.. Have fun. I knew for sure I had previously posted him, so I recharged my old phone and searched through my files till I found him. Dim of me not to pick up on Knotty's clue. He clearly also knew who he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 Well done @neverforgetnowhere near that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ridgus Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 52 minutes ago, neverforget said: Well done the Reading posse.👍 I think as a Newbury man Knotty might bridle at that title . I reckon Berkshire posse is safer! David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 1 minute ago, David Ridgus said: I think as a Newbury man Knotty might bridle at that title . I reckon Berkshire posse is safer! David Thanks for the correction. Apologies John; Berkshire posse it is. 18 minutes ago, ilkley remembers said: Well done @neverforgetnowhere near that one The hardest part was trying to rely on my memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ridgus Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 Here's one we had earlier (much earlier). It was during what PG Wodehouse would probably have called "The great Google Face Recognition Imbroglio". I find it a haunting image of the effects of war. It's a good time of year to put him up again. But who is he? David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, neverforget said: Berkshire posse it is. Catching up as we’ve been out and busy, will stick with the Berkshire posse…thanks Stopford it was ….I did give you the clues in Stepford (wives) David, I’m pretty well up on Cruttwell, and know about this chap so I will butt out. Edited 4 March , 2023 by Knotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 1 hour ago, David Ridgus said: I find it a haunting image of the effects of war. There is a hint of the look of the Guynemer one. Haven't got a clue who it is of course, so no change there then. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ridgus Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 7 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: There is a hint of the look of the Guynemer one. Pete. Absolutely. Like Guynemer this chap was a national hero, but unlike him it was for his pre war exploits, rather than his military career, which was, in truth, limited and completely unexceptional, ended almost before it had begun by a sniper's bullet during a night time working party in Plugstreet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 Another sudden lightbulb moment. I've visited his grave on more than one occasion but I don't think I've seen him in uniform before........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 Just now, Fattyowls said: Another sudden lightbulb moment. I've visited his grave on more than one occasion but I don't think I've seen him in uniform before........ Like you Pete, visited his grave more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ridgus Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 Almost incredible to think Guynemer was barely 21 when this picture was taken. My chap is 25 Well gentlemen I think we need to be coy no longer. Would one of you like to name him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 4 March , 2023 Share Posted 4 March , 2023 "His was the joy that made people smile when they met him". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankengine888 Posted 5 March , 2023 Share Posted 5 March , 2023 9 hours ago, neverforget said: Have fun. Certainly did! Tiger Moths, Sea Hawks, etc.. As I am under 15 [by a month], I got in for free! Enough of my affairs, it doesn't interest many if any. 6 hours ago, David Ridgus said: Almost incredible to think Guynemer was barely 21 when this picture was taken. My chap is 25 Well gentlemen I think we need to be coy no longer. Would one of you like to name him? French and quite a few gongs, correct? No doubt a Legion D'honnuer [beg pardon on the spelling]... Zidane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 5 March , 2023 Share Posted 5 March , 2023 (edited) England rugby captain (the other game not the real one), Ronald Poulton-Palmer. Did some work with the RFU about three Ilkley men who had played for England pre-war including the mighty John Abbott King one of the all time greats of English rugby who had played with Palmer King was KiA on The Somme in 1916 next to his great frien lancelot Slocock another former England captain who both served with the L’pool Scots Another 1/4th Berks was one of the Gathorne-Hardy’s, his cousin is named on Ilkley War memorial. They had owned the Low Moor Iron Works in Bradford. However, like a lot of local industrialists headed south at the first opportunity. Was going to use J A King as a Wit but here he is for free Edited 5 March , 2023 by ilkley remembers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithmroberts Posted 5 March , 2023 Share Posted 5 March , 2023 Ronald Poulton Palmer's battlefield cross is in Holywell Cemetery Oxford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 5 March , 2023 Share Posted 5 March , 2023 1 minute ago, keithmroberts said: Ronald Poulton Palmer's battlefield cross is in Holywell Cemetery Oxford. Indeed it is and his grave is in Hyde Park Corner (Royal Berks) Cemetery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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