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Sapper No 25993 in his Bedspace c1906.  Lots of nice little details including a mix of 1903 Bandolier Equipment and 1888, walking out canes and a Mk1 SMLE. His "Brodrick" can be seen on the shelf above his bed.

 

His name on his kit bag is not clear enough to make out, but his number suggests he joined between May 1890 and September 1891.

 

He has the QSA , KSA and at least 12 Years Good Conduct.

 

 

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Cavalry Trooper

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3 hours ago, Toby Brayley said:

Sapper No 25993 in his Bedspace c1906.  Lots of nice little details including a mix of 1903 Bandolier Equipment and 1888, walking out canes and a Mk1 SMLE. His "Brodrick" can be seen on the shelf above his bed.

 

His name on his kit bag is not clear enough to make out, but his number suggests he joined between May 1890 and September 1891.

 

He has the QSA , KSA and at least 12 Years Good Conduct.

 

 

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16 years in and no promotion...poor chap.

Looks like one of the canes looks to have cords at the end so may be a fly swish or drivers whip

regards

Dave

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16 years in and no promotion...poor chap.

Looks like one of the canes looks to have cords at the end so may be a fly swish or drivers whip

regards

Dave

 

There was and still  is the type of old soldier totally content with being at the lowest rung, especially with good conduct and [in this case] sapper pay [more than "pioneer" in the RE]. These men did not want to make the step to unpaid extra responsibility on the way to paid promotion, and in any case promotion would mean that they could not socialise with their mates.

A prime example is Frank Richards DCM MM RWF, intelligent, signaller qualified, brave, tall and strong, and very literate. A career private.

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Grumpy's quite right - I've just been looking at a KRRC rifleman who did 21 years, then pushed for special permission to stay on with glowing testimonials from his officers and was eventually discharged with 26 years service - all as a Rifleman - in Feb 1914.

 

He persuaded the regiment to take him back again in October 1914 (probably after some weeks of trying!) and he spent the War at the Rifle Depot working in the Rifle Record Office.

 

Still not satisfied, he applied for and got the Re-enlistment Scheme in 1919 and did not finally leave the regiment until 1922 ... still as a Rifleman.

 

Mark

 

 

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"From Ernest" Manchester regiment, July 15 1915 

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On 03/01/2019 at 16:09, AmericanTommy said:

A gun crew on occupation duty in Germany.

 

 

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This is a famous picture. They were threatening the wet canteen manager who refused to supply them with beer.

 

TR

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Unknown officer on horseback, maybe from the West Yorkshire. Anybody know what medal the ribbon indicates?

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25 minutes ago, Jools mckenna said:

Unknown officer on horseback, maybe from the West Yorkshire. Anybody know what medal the ribbon indicates?

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The Military Cross. Pete.

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2 minutes ago, CorporalPunishment said:

The Military Cross. Pete.

Thanks, Pete. I did think of it being an MC but I thought I was being hopeful.

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Could this be him or is it just wishful thinking?

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I think the man on horseback has very different facial features to Captain Stead. Also, although the cap badge is very blurred, I think it looks more like the Queen's Royal West Surrey Regiment than anything else. Pete.

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2 minutes ago, CorporalPunishment said:

I think the man on horseback has very different facial features to Captain Stead. Also, although the cap badge is very blurred, I think it looks more like the Queen's Royal West Surrey Regiment than anything else. Pete.

You are right the badge does look like Queen's Royal West Surrey Regiment after another look. Wishful thinking strikes again!

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On 08/01/2019 at 21:29, CorporalPunishment said:

I think the man on horseback has very different facial features to Captain Stead. Also, although the cap badge is very blurred, I think it looks more like the Queen's Royal West Surrey Regiment than anything else. Pete.

Assuming, the man on horseback was a captain when he received his MC and using The Gazette, I found 3 captains from the West Surrey who received the MC as their first medal. If it is any of the ones I have found its most likely going to be Beattie as I'm not sure a temporary captain wore a Captains uniform. Also I dont think he's Hamiliton as the officer doesn't look he was a territorial.

 

·         22 June 1915/ Captain A. E. Beattie, attached 4th Battalion, Nigeria Regiment

·         Captain Arthur Percival Hamilton, The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment), Adjutant 18th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (London Irish Rifles), Territorial Force. For conspicuous gallantry on 25th September 1915, during the attack at Maroc and Loos. Although severely wounded early in the day, he remained in the German second line trench reorganising and encouraging the men till the consolidation was well advanced. He then had to be ordered to go back for medical attendance.

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Dear Jools,

I do not want to dampen your enthusiasm, but I would be very surprised if a T/Capt did not put up three stars! (It is logical, for one reason, the men only understanding that a Coy Cdr had three stars.)

My grandfather was an AIF Lieut and promoted  shortly afterwards to a Coy Cdr and Capt. It is doubtful if this was substantive; such promotions occuring years later in Australia.

Kindest regards,

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12 minutes ago, Kimberley John Lindsay said:

I do not want to dampen your enthusiasm,

Thanks, it does make sense for T/Capt. have the correct insignia for a Captain. Nothing dampened don't worry. 

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Dear Joos,

I'm glad.

Yes, I have two photographs of an Officer who was 1029240689_15StarLtYeates.jpg.df8f73fdec9673e43a2ddec701ed3e18.jpg1912650281_Poss.LtYeatesatleftwithGenDyer.jpg.52117272b48dce69aae50cf798420062.jpg299510155_Poss.YeatesJan1926Agra2ndBombayPnrs.jpg.f63c23aac888773eb4d573fa751149e9.jpgprobably E. P. Yeates of 1/12/Pioneers - but I do not know for sure. It is quite frustrating!

Kindest regards,

Kim.

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"to Dear Old Mother... Not up to much... from the boys Bull (Lincolnshire regiment?)

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T.F Royal Engineers. 

 

A very nice study of the commercial Mills Equipment. 

 

 

 

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16 hours ago, Jools mckenna said:

"to Dear Old Mother... Not up to much... from the boys Bull (Lincolnshire regiment?)

 

 

 

Yes, they are Lincolnshire, Jools.  Great to see a photo like that rescued.  It has a real ghosts from the past quality about it.

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1 hour ago, Toby Brayley said:

T.F Royal Engineers. 

 

A very nice study of the commercial Mills Equipment. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yet another great quality image Toby.  Interesting that they seem to have different longarms and the old, buff leather slings.

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I'm guessing post-war. Taken by London studio Cairo, anyone know what the medal ribbons on the bottom right man indicate and what badge bottom right and left men are wearing on the left sleeve?

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6 hours ago, FROGSMILE said:

 

Yes, they are Lincolnshire, Jools.  Great to see a photo like that rescued.  It has a real ghosts from the past quality about it.

Thanks Frogsmile, The photo definitely has a lot of character.

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1 hour ago, Jools mckenna said:

I'm guessing post-war. Taken by London studio Cairo, anyone know what the medal ribbons on the bottom right man indicate and what badge bottom right and left men are wearing on the left sleeve?

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Bandsman wearing a Lyre badge. 

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