Crunchy Posted 9 March , 2008 Share Posted 9 March , 2008 Bob, Sgt Allen W W B 9Bn AIF Burred Lone Pine Cemetery- first line of brothers below the line. I think his date of death might be incorrect. It is down as 23 4 15 and they didn't land until 25 4 15. I have tried to find his Service Record through the NAA but no luck for either he or his brother. Cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedelmar Posted 9 March , 2008 Share Posted 9 March , 2008 Give me the Sgt's details and I will have a poke around for you You know what I am like at ferreting out bits and pieces of info Chris ... one just never knows Bright Blessings Sandra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crunchy Posted 9 March , 2008 Share Posted 9 March , 2008 Sandra, All I have is the Allen brothers @ post # 375. Fourth set of brothers down, immediately below the line drawn after the first three sets. I am sure their service records are at the NAA, I just couldn't find them. Cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedelmar Posted 9 March , 2008 Share Posted 9 March , 2008 Okay ... on to it Be back shortly ... Bright Blessings Sandra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedelmar Posted 9 March , 2008 Share Posted 9 March , 2008 1614 Private Charles Alexander Allen: http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/imagine.as...mp;I=1&SE=1 236 Sergeant William Wallace Bentley Allen http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/imagine.as...mp;I=1&SE=1 All done Sir Bright Blessings Sandra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crunchy Posted 9 March , 2008 Share Posted 9 March , 2008 Sandra, Excellent. Well done young lady. Take the day off. I had 225 returns on my search at the NAA and neither of them came up - how do you do it? Bob, Sgt WWB Allen is down as KIA 25.4.15 as per here http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp Cheers Chris Errr the link doesn't work. Calling Sandra the wonder lady!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedelmar Posted 9 March , 2008 Share Posted 9 March , 2008 I do it cos me name is Sandie not Silly It's called knowing the tricks ... And ... if you test your link out you will notice he doesn't work!!! I suspect it is the page that his death is mentioned on ... best give Bob the same link I gave and the page number you want him to look at. Since the service files all went on line a direct link to the page doesn't work like it used to. Bright Blessings Sandra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crunchy Posted 9 March , 2008 Share Posted 9 March , 2008 Sandra, OK what are the tricks of the trade? Bob, Second link @ post 380 page 3 Cheers Silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedelmar Posted 9 March , 2008 Share Posted 9 March , 2008 Gawd ... I wasn't meaning you was silly Sir Well ... its using all the resources we have and getting the service number ... and then adding the date range 1914 - 1920. Sometimes more is less and less is more when it comes to the search criteria. In this case I got the service number first and then just typed in Allen 1614 and the date range. I used ADF to get the service number and it was there that the brother's was listed too. ADF has heaps of errors but is great for narrowing down the research parameters Bright Blessings Sandra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobpike Posted 9 March , 2008 Author Share Posted 9 March , 2008 Excellent, thank you all for your expertise. I'm very keen for errors to be found, Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedelmar Posted 9 March , 2008 Share Posted 9 March , 2008 You are most welcome Bob ... its a pleasure to help Even if a good mate like the old fella Chris can't get it right and needs a helping hand Bright Blessings Sandra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobpike Posted 3 June , 2008 Author Share Posted 3 June , 2008 They are still being found! Day Pte John Henry RE 13Div Sig Co 9.8.15 – Helles Mem 23-5 and 2Lt Hubert F Day 11RF 10.8.17 – Menin Gate 6 & 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoff501 Posted 3 June , 2008 Share Posted 3 June , 2008 They are still being found! Indeed, this one looks new, could not find them in your list at the GA website Name: MATHERS, THOMAS JAMES Initials: T J Nationality: Australian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Unit Text: 15th Bn. Age: 28 Date of Death: 08/08/1915 Service No: 2178 Additional information: Son of David and Rosetta Mathers (nee Cordwell), of 'Newark', Rous, Richmond River, New South Wales. His brother Chapman also died in service Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: 48. Memorial: LONE PINE MEMORIAL Name: MATHERS, CHAPMAN Initials: C Nationality: Australian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Unit Text: 15th Bn. Age: 31 Date of Death: 17/02/1917 Service No: 919 Additional information: Son of David and Rosetta Mathers (nee Cordwell), of 'Newark', Rous, Richmond River, New South Wales. His brother Thomas James also died in service Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Angora Mem. 108. Cemetery: BAGHDAD (NORTH GATE) WAR CEMETERY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoff501 Posted 3 June , 2008 Share Posted 3 June , 2008 And another possible correction, Bob. He is listed as Lone Pine in the Gallipoli Brothers list Name: GUNNELSON, PERCY OSCAR Initials: P O Nationality: Australian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Unit Text: 8th Bn. Age: 21 Date of Death: 08/05/1915 Service No: 893 Additional information: Son of Ingebret and Mary Gunnelson, of Garfield, Victoria, Australia. His brother Ingebert Thomas also fell. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Addenda Panel. Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoff501 Posted 3 June , 2008 Share Posted 3 June , 2008 Another possible two additions Maybe died of wounds/sickness from Gallipoli? Name: FRASER, GEOFFREY ERLE Initials: G E Nationality: New Zealand Rank: Trooper Regiment/Service: Wellington Mounted Rifles, N.Z.E.F. Age: 26 Date of Death: 20/09/1915 Service No: 11/254 Additional information: Son of Charlton S. and Minnie Fraser, of Timaru, New Zealand. His brother Capt. D. P. Fraser also fell. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: B. XIII. 5. Cemetery: PIETA MILITARY CEMETERY And I could not find these in the list: Name: HOOPER, FRANCIS HERBERT Initials: F H Nationality: Australian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Unit Text: 5th Bn. Age: 36 Date of Death: 08/05/1915 Service No: 1374 Additional information: Son of Capt. Clement William and Agnes Maria Benson Hooper (nee Wills). Native of Liverpool, England. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 201 to 204 or 332. Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL Name: HOOPER, GEORGE SEPTIMUS Initials: G S Nationality: New Zealand Rank: Private Regiment/Service: New Zealand Medical Corps Unit Text: 2nd Field Amb Age: 33 Date of Death: 24/03/1918 Service No: 3/3046 Additional information: Son of Capt. C. W. and Agnes Hooper, of Liverpool, England. His brother Frank fell at Gallipoli. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: VIII. I. 165. Cemetery: BOULOGNE EASTERN CEMETERY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobpike Posted 4 June , 2008 Author Share Posted 4 June , 2008 Geoff, As always your help is gratefully received, thank you. The Gunnelson error is duly noted and corrected and Mathers and Hooper added to my list which will be amended on the Association web-site in due course. I knew of the Frasers and I'm sure you're correct. Hopefully some more will materialise, Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoff501 Posted 9 June , 2008 Share Posted 9 June , 2008 Another new pair? William Wallace Bentley ALLEN 9th Bn kia 25/04/1915 Gallipoli Charles Alexander ALLEN, 58th Bn kia 25/09/1917. William's entry on the AIF Project: http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au:8080/showPerson?pid=3589 geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobpike Posted 9 June , 2008 Author Share Posted 9 June , 2008 Geoff, As ever I'm most grateful for you input. However, I do have these two, but it will, hopefully, provoke more offerings, Kind Regards, Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoff501 Posted 10 June , 2008 Share Posted 10 June , 2008 As ever I'm most grateful for you input. However, I do have these two, but it will, hopefully, provoke more offerings, Better to have twice than not at all! I'll try again: Pte William Robert BAKER 13th Bn. 27.08.1915 Gallipoli Pte Henry Squire BAKER 10.08.1918 France http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au:8080/showPerson?pid=11748 geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobpike Posted 10 June , 2008 Author Share Posted 10 June , 2008 Geoff, Well persevered, this is a new set, thank -you, Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoff501 Posted 15 June , 2008 Share Posted 15 June , 2008 Bob, A new set? Name: BETHEL, ROBERT Initials: R Nationality: Australian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Unit Text: 14th Bn. Age: 18 Date of Death: 14/08/1915 Service No: 29 Additional information: Son of Michael J. and Edith M. E. Bethel, of Moorina, Tasmania. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: II. C. 13. Cemetery: 7th FIELD AMBULANCE CEMETERY Name: BETHEL, WILFRED MICHAEL Initials: W M Nationality: Australian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Unit Text: 15th Bn. Age: 22 Date of Death: 07/08/1916 Service No: 4358 Additional information: Son of Michael J. and Edith M. E. Bethel, of Moorina, Tasmania. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Memorial: VILLERS-BRETONNEUX MEMORIAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoff501 Posted 15 June , 2008 Share Posted 15 June , 2008 ... and another? Name: BETTLES, HOWARD WILLIAMS Initials: H W Nationality: Australian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Unit Text: 6th Bn. Age: 21 Date of Death: 25/04/1915 Service No: 910 Additional information: Son of John and Caroline Sarah Bettles, of 3, Balston St., North Melbourne. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: 26. Memorial: LONE PINE MEMORIAL Name: BETTLES, HEDLEY FARQUHARSON Initials: H F Nationality: Australian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Australian Machine Gun Corps Unit Text: 14th Coy. Date of Death: 12/05/1917 Service No: 336 Additional information: Son of John and Caroline Sarah Bettles. Born at Victoria, Australia. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: II. C. 15. Cemetery: QUEANT ROAD CEMETERY, BUISSY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoff501 Posted 15 June , 2008 Share Posted 15 June , 2008 Can't check this set until the AIF site is back up. (did not know there was a Helles Memorial, France!) Name: BIDDLE, ARTHUR E. Initials: A E Nationality: Australian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Unit Text: 15th Bn. Date of Death: 10/05/1915 Service No: 1467 Additional information: Please note Private Biddle''s name also appears on Panel 201 on the Helles Memorial, France where he was previously commemorated but will be removed when the panel is next replaced. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Memorial: LONE PINE MEMORIAL Name: BIDDLE, WILLIAM JOHN Initials: W J Nationality: Australian Rank: Shoeing Smith Regiment/Service: Australian Field Artillery Unit Text: 25th Bde. Date of Death: 18/01/1917 Service No: 1877 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Memorial: VILLERS-BRETONNEUX MEMORIAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoff501 Posted 15 June , 2008 Share Posted 15 June , 2008 Here we go again... Name: BLACKLOCK, HERBERT JOHN Initials: H J Nationality: Australian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Unit Text: 15th Bn. Age: 21 Date of Death: 08/08/1915 Service No: 2106 Additional information: Son of Thomas and Marion Perry Blacklock, of Miner St., Charters Towers, Queensland. Native of Brisbane. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: 45. Memorial: LONE PINE MEMORIAL Name: BLACKLOCK, STANLEY GEORGE Initials: S G Nationality: Australian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Unit Text: 26th Bn. Age: 19 Date of Death: 25/04/1917 Service No: 3772 Additional information: Son of Thomas Blacklock and Marion Perry, of Miner St., Charters Towers, Queensland. Born at Brisbane. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Memorial: VILLERS-BRETONNEUX MEMORIAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoff501 Posted 15 June , 2008 Share Posted 15 June , 2008 .... Name: BLAKE, ERNEST SAMUEL Initials: E S Nationality: Australian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Unit Text: 12th Bn. Age: 19 Date of Death: 02/05/1915 Service No: 326 Additional information: Son of Henry George and Caroline Elizabeth Blake. Native of Westbury, Tasmania. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: 35. Memorial: LONE PINE MEMORIAL Name: BLAKE, HENRY GEORGE Initials: H G Nationality: Australian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Unit Text: 12th Bn. Age: 28 Date of Death: 23/07/1916 Service No: 303 Additional information: Son of Henry George and Caroline Elizabeth Blake. Born at Westbury, Tasmania. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Memorial: VILLERS-BRETONNEUX MEMORIAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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