neverforget Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 Further to Fergus Bowes-Lyon, his name is comemorated twice at present which was a fact that I was unaware of until I made a slightly embarrasing discovery at Quarry Cemetery last September. I pointed out Fergus Bowes-Lyon's name on the Memorial to the Missing at Dud corner and then we went off via Hulluch to Quarry Cemetery. Nice pictures, Pete, and an interesting extra bit of info. When I was reading about him, I learned that all three brothers were active in WW1, but that one of them, shall we say, didn`t exactly cover himself in glory, and was very lucky to have gotten away with shooting himself in the hand. I was going to offer him up as a W.I.T. In fact, I may well still do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 Nice pictures, Pete, and an interesting extra bit of info. When I was reading about him, I learned that all three brothers were active in WW1, but that one of them, shall we say, didn`t exactly cover himself in glory, and was very lucky to have gotten away with shooting himself in the hand. I was going to offer him up as a W.I.T. In fact, I may well still do so. A few rare horizontal horizons from my collection of flat fields with 25% gradients and sloping lakes, glad you like them. I took them on a marvellously misty morning before the real heat of the day; when I discovered the Bowes-Lyon special memorial I thought of hiding it from my chums by standing in front of it but decided that I had to grass myself up in the end and take the grief. I'd like to spend more time on the Loos battlefield someday soon. I will look into the other members of the family; sounds like another very interesting story, thanks. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 O.k. Let`s try this one: These ten soldiers (not the naval chaps in white) have all been selected for a special "mission". What was the special "mission" and can you tell me their names??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdr Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 A fine selection of moustaches recently NF, well played. Another Royal connection with this gentleman. Identification should not be a be a problem, but what was his royal link this side of the channel: dri 245.jpg David already found but Rupprecht also had a link to the Belgian royal family. Any idea ? Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarylW Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 Spot on Caryl. The following is the full paragraph from which the extract was drawn. I would not normally quote at such length on a thread but it is such a brilliant piece of writing I could not resist. Not only is it phrased in a way that would have Gibbon purring, but it sums up the government's, and particularly Grey's, position superbly. 'At three o’clock that afternoon of August 3, Grey was due in Parliament to make the government’s first official and public statement on the crisis. All Europe, as well as all England, was hanging on it. Grey’s task was to bring his country into war and bring her in united. He had to carry with him his own, traditionally pacifist, party. He had to explain to the oldest and most practiced parliamentary body in the world how Britain was committed to support France by virtue of something that was not a commitment. He must present Belgium as the cause without hiding France as the basic cause; he must appeal to Britain’s honour while making it clear that Britain’s interest was the deciding factor; he must stand where a tradition of debate on foreign affairs had flourished for three hundred years and, without the brilliance of Burke or the force of Pitt, without Canning’s mastery or Palmerston’s jaunty nerve, without the rhetoric of Gladstone or the wit of Disraeli, justify the course of British foreign policy under his stewardship and the war it could not prevent. He must convince the present, measure up to the past, and speak to posterity.' David I'll put that book on my wish list. I only collared Sir Edward Grey because I was recently reading about him and his speech on the Long Long Trail when you posted up some politicians. The ones you thought no-one was interested in! http://www.1914-1918.net/greys_speech.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 already found but Rupprecht also had a link to the Belgian royal family. Any idea ? Carl Obvious link to Luxembourg of course. Books all over the floor but can`t find any link to the Belgians as yet. Fair play to him for his stance against the nazis though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 As a clue to the nationality of my ten; they might have all been Protestant English agrarian socialists, but they weren`t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 already found but Rupprecht also had a link to the Belgian royal family. Any idea ? Carl I think the link might be his sister-in-law, Princess Elisabeth, who was to become the Queen of Belgium, at Albert`s side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdr Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 Rupprecht was brother in law to king Albert (their wives were sisters) Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ridgus Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 I knew who he was, but didn`t know about his Royal connection until I looked him up. He`s Crown Prince Rupprecht, of course, and his connection was that he was claimant to the throne of England in the Jacobite succession. Quite right NF. He was a direct descendent of Charles I's daughter Henrietta David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMarsdin Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 Good afternoon Witters, I've been on holiday for a week: I caught up on the Forum yesterday and WIT today ! Here's a cryptic one for you: His was in Champagne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 Steve. Is it Franz Marc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpjpl Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 I think it's August Robert Ludwig Macke who was killed at the front in Champagne on 26 September 1914. The painting is titled 'Farewell' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 Very impressive helpjpl; and a cunning post by Steve. I knew very little about Macke and it makes me want to read more. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMarsdin Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 Yep it is Macke. Self-portrait In Tunis I had a print of his in my living room for many years. His paintings were usually very colourful and "Farewell" was his last painting, said to reflect the gloom that descended on his artistic mind after the outbreak of the war.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ridgus Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 I'll put that book on my wish list. I only collared Sir Edward Grey because I was recently reading about him and his speech on the Long Long Trail when you posted up some politicians. The ones you thought no-one was interested in! http://www.1914-1918.net/greys_speech.htm Sorry Caryl, perhaps I've been a teacher too long. I'm starting to exhibit that classic combination of being touchy and needy that makes year 9 students such a joy to spend time with!! I am amazed neither you or Pete have read 'Guns of August' - promote it to the top of your list immediately, there couldn't be a better time to read it David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMarsdin Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 I think we've had this chap before, appropriately named and moustachioed for this thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 I am amazed neither you or Pete have read 'Guns of August' - promote it to the top of your list immediately, there couldn't be a better time to read it It was on my reading list honest sir but the dog ate it along with my homework. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMarsdin Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 I'll second David's recommendation. It's similar in style to Max Hasting's "Catastrophe", a triumph of prose over detail but it carries you through the story of 1914 with ease, plus its inaccuracies are more readily forgiven as it was written some 50 years earlier ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 I'll second David's recommendation. It's similar in style to Max Hasting's "Catastrophe", a triumph of prose over detail but it carries you through the story of 1914 with ease, plus its inaccuracies are more readily forgiven as it was written some 50 years earlier ! Taken straight off my reading list then! (Actually, it was never really on it. I'm being contentious). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarylW Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 It was on my reading list honest sir but the dog ate it along with my homework. Pete. You're a better person than I (or should that be me?) I'd never even heard of the book Taken straight off my reading list then! (Actually, it was never really on it. I'm being contentious). Bound to be a good one then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdr Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 I think we've had this chap before, appropriately named and moustachioed for this thread: Alb.JPG that's another Belgian ! Leon De Witte (who recieved the title baron de Haelen after his victory over the German cavalry in that place) Interestingly before the war he had written articles in favour of an alliance of Belgium with ....... imperial Germany ! Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMarsdin Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 I knew you'd get him Carl ! Not long now to the 100th anniversary on the 12 August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 You're a better person than I (or should that be me?) I'd never even heard of the book I can't imagine that ever being the case Caryl, I'm a wrongun as David will attest. Just like atoms I make everything up. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 2 August , 2014 Share Posted 2 August , 2014 What can I say to help you with my ten men in a boat? I`ve given you their nationality, (sort of) and will add that their special "mission" was on the home front. They were all very brave men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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