paul@bolton Posted 6 May , 2011 Share Posted 6 May , 2011 Leave it a bit longer. I am sure some of the more experienced members know the answer. Let some of the young 'uns have a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Tulloch-Marshall Posted 6 May , 2011 Share Posted 6 May , 2011 Leave it a bit longer. I am sure some of the more experienced members know the answer. Let some of the young 'uns have a shot Would it help them if I suggested "D" Cemetery, - or not ? Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul@bolton Posted 6 May , 2011 Share Posted 6 May , 2011 And that the model isn't Kate Moss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKY Posted 6 May , 2011 Share Posted 6 May , 2011 Devonshire Cemetery on Somme?? ( young at heart) Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Tulloch-Marshall Posted 6 May , 2011 Share Posted 6 May , 2011 And that the model isn't Kate Moss The modeller - Captain Duncan Lenox Martin ? Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ypres1418 Posted 7 May , 2011 Share Posted 7 May , 2011 Devonshire trench, if i recall rightly, the model was made and one of the officers said it wouldn't work cos the G's were in the cemetery but he wasn't listened too and lost his life in the battle x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithfazzani Posted 7 May , 2011 Share Posted 7 May , 2011 Mansell Copse, the site of the Devonshire Cemetery is indeed the answer. Captain Duncan Martin commanding A Company 9th Bn Devons, made a plasticine model prior to the attack predicting that they would come under fire from a machine gun at the crucifix in Mametz cemetery which lay almost opposite on the other side of the valley. He showed this to his superiors who ignored his warnings. Captain Martin was killed in the attack and lies in the cemetery which is the site of their jumping off trench. Mametz was in fact taken later that day, 1st July 1916. I believe KIRKY sets the next question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ypres1418 Posted 7 May , 2011 Share Posted 7 May , 2011 yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh got one right lol x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patje70 Posted 10 May , 2011 Share Posted 10 May , 2011 Kirky is on holiday I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Tulloch-Marshall Posted 10 May , 2011 Share Posted 10 May , 2011 Kirky is on holiday I think In which case I’ll throw one in > I’m standing in front of a Salle des Fetes but the place where I am is British. “It” passed by here during WW1, but the man who named it didn’t know. Where am I ? Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Tulloch-Marshall Posted 11 May , 2011 Share Posted 11 May , 2011 The man who named the thing which passed by where I'm standing went to university in Edinburgh. He was Scots. (A clue which may be more relevant than it might appear to be). He named it, but he didnt know. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthergw Posted 11 May , 2011 Share Posted 11 May , 2011 The man who named the thing which passed by where I'm standing went to university in Edinburgh. He was Scots. (A clue which may be more relevant than it might appear to be). He named it, but he didnt know. Tom Is this a reference to the cortege of the Unknown Warrior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfaulder Posted 11 May , 2011 Share Posted 11 May , 2011 So, examining the clues: I'm standing in front of a Salle des Fetes but the place where I am is British. So unless the question setter is being obtuse (why not?) we are in France,or possibly French speaking Belgium Salle des Fetes, I think is a banqueting hall - so an urban location place where I am is Britishas in a British War Cemetery? (as in "the land on which this cemetery stands is granted in perpetuity ..."?) or a place currently owned by someone British "It" passed by here during WW1, but the man who named it didn't know. It could be something moving like a cortege or a body of men but it could also be something stationary like "L'autoroute des Anglais" (or a railway or a canal) which "passes" the place in question It could even be an event like "a retreat" or "an advance" WW1 - so not the cortege of the Unknown Warrior (or L'autoroute des Anglais!). but the man who named it didn't know - did not know what?that he had named it - in which case is it named after him? that it passed the place in question? - but he did know that he had named the thing The man who named the thing which passed by where I'm standing went to university in Edinburgh. He was Scots. (A clue which may be more relevant than it might appear to be). Implies that he is a graduate (or failed version of the same) rather than a mere employee of the university. List of Edinburgh Alumni Assuming the namer is of approximately WW1 vintage - so Edinburgh University was the only university In Edinburgh He named it, but he didn't know. I suspect who-ever unwraps this bit of crypticality will get the answer David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flintwich Posted 11 May , 2011 Share Posted 11 May , 2011 St Pol Communal Cemetery Extension. Going on the previous answers, The unknown soldier was selected in the adjoining chapel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Tulloch-Marshall Posted 11 May , 2011 Share Posted 11 May , 2011 Is this a reference to the cortege of the Unknown Warrior? There is no connection with the Unknown Warrior at all. Another clue follows shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Tulloch-Marshall Posted 11 May , 2011 Share Posted 11 May , 2011 So, examining the clues: " a British War Cemetery? ... or a place currently owned by someone British." Neither of the above. ""It" passed by here during WW1, but the man who named it didn't know.... It could be something moving like a cortege or a body of men. "It" was a moving object. " is it named after him?" No "Implies that he is ... Edinburgh Alumni" Correct "He named it, but he didn't know. ... I suspect who-ever unwraps this bit of crypticality will get the answer" You are correct - that bit is cryptic; but it isnt the only way to solve it. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Tulloch-Marshall Posted 11 May , 2011 Share Posted 11 May , 2011 When I face the Salle a soldier stands behind me. He has been there for a long time, and he never moves. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKY Posted 11 May , 2011 Share Posted 11 May , 2011 Flers Tom? Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMarsdin Posted 11 May , 2011 Share Posted 11 May , 2011 I don't know the answer but could the "salle des fetes" and "Britiain" be found on the Channel Islands ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Tulloch-Marshall Posted 11 May , 2011 Share Posted 11 May , 2011 Flers Tom? Tony I understand you may have an advantage here as you could have had access to my original notes …………… but yes - 15/9/16 2nd Lieutenant Stuart Henderson Hastie (OBE MC to be), Highland Light Infantry att’d Heavy Branch MGC, took Male Tank D17 “Dinnaken” past what is now the Salle des Fetes in the Place des Britanniques, Flers, Somme. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 11 May , 2011 Share Posted 11 May , 2011 I understand you may have an advantage here as you could have had access to my original notes Occupational hazard, Tom — a couple of mine have been 'got' by pals who were with me when I visited places I set as questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKY Posted 11 May , 2011 Share Posted 11 May , 2011 My turn and I am off on holiday from tomorrow so be quick! Behind me is what used to be largest is not anymore but can see smallest which is larger! Bastille Day featured here heavily and Heliopetes ericetorum landscape offered some protection for attacking troops. I may be a bit cross if you get this ! Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 12 May , 2011 Admin Share Posted 12 May , 2011 Bazentin Le Grand looking towards Bazentin Le Petit? Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKY Posted 12 May , 2011 Share Posted 12 May , 2011 Bazentin Le Grand looking towards Bazentin Le Petit? Michelle Well done spot on! Off to Normandy now that you have the right answer!! tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Bennitt Posted 12 May , 2011 Share Posted 12 May , 2011 Puzzled by reference to Heliopetes ericetorum landscape. Google search indicates that is a native American butterfly cheers Martin B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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