FROGSMILE Posted 6 August , 2011 Share Posted 6 August , 2011 Gloster and Hereford ? Yes and the Gloster looks as if he is wearing either TF (V) or Militia Bn cloth titles. He also has a cloth cover to his SD cap and both have utility tunics making the photo likely to be 1915. I imagine the Hereford (TF) lad could be a brother or cousin, or maybe even an old school 'pal'. I wonder if they survived. It seems a poignant photo to me, like so many of this kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 7 August , 2011 Share Posted 7 August , 2011 Thomas Williams, Liverpool Scottish ? wound stripe, just cannot make out the flash at the top of his sleeve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 7 August , 2011 Share Posted 7 August , 2011 The flash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_H Posted 7 August , 2011 Share Posted 7 August , 2011 John If he was 1/10th it should be a 55th Division red rose badge but looking at the photo I can't be 100% sure that it is! The battalion flash was worn on the back of the jacket, two black rectangles 3" x 1", worn vertically just below the collar. 2/10th wore a yellow triangle at the top of the sleeve above bars of company colour but I can't make it out as that. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verrico2009 Posted 7 August , 2011 Share Posted 7 August , 2011 More Norfolk Yeomanry men by the looks of it, as per High Wood's post 2324. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 8 August , 2011 Share Posted 8 August , 2011 Part of a family post card I have just brought, MGC collars, Coldstream Guards cap badge, shoulder titles, and with a cloth title which I can just make out, bottom bit says Guards. There is some lettering above which looks like Machine Gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 8 August , 2011 Share Posted 8 August , 2011 Top half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATNOMIS Posted 8 August , 2011 Share Posted 8 August , 2011 Part of a family post card I have just brought, MGC collars, Coldstream Guards cap badge, shoulder titles, and with a cloth title which I can just make out, bottom bit says Guards. There is some lettering above which looks like Machine Gun. Plus wound stripe and good conduct chevron. Proud Mum. Great pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 8 August , 2011 Share Posted 8 August , 2011 is the shoulder title the gilding metal CG and rose, or is it worsted please? Might it be a slip-on or sewn on worsted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 8 August , 2011 Share Posted 8 August , 2011 is the shoulder title the gilding metal CG and rose, or is it worsted please? Might it be a slip-on or sewn on worsted? Hi Grumpy, the shoulder title is the gilding metal with the cloth title under the epoulette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 8 August , 2011 Share Posted 8 August , 2011 Full photo, he is one big guardsman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 9 August , 2011 Share Posted 9 August , 2011 Full photo, he is one big guardsman. I would love to know if he survived. How distraught all his sisters would have been if not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsyeoman Posted 9 August , 2011 Share Posted 9 August , 2011 Think we've discussed these before - it may be a transitional pattern before the Machine Gun Guards cap badge (the five-pointed, much faked, Star badge came in). Please note: not/not the 'Guards Machine Gun Brigade'. And it certainly pre-dates the Guards Machine Gun Regiment in 1918, where the manpower was formed from 'dehorsed' Household Cavalry. Great pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 9 August , 2011 Share Posted 9 August , 2011 my interest in the S/T was because it is widely believed that the CG were unique in not adopting worsted xxxxxxx Guards on a coloured background during the later part of the war, a la 1902 pattern white letters on scarlet. Like any "not" theory, only a single foto will destroy it! I have recently acquired the Grenade GG S/T on original backing plate, very nice it is too. I had all the others, and the later Royal Cypher GG version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verrico2009 Posted 12 August , 2011 Share Posted 12 August , 2011 Am delighted with this find today: postcard complete with a double-sided photo locket - all for a tenner! The label said: "Paul Atkinson Died in War W Yorks Regt Farnley Man", while the name and 1914 appear on the back. Was slightly disappointed to find that I wasn't immediately able to locate him on CWGC and started wondering if a name had been picked out of thin air, but SDGW has:- Name: Paul Atkinson Birth Place: Leeds Death Date: 20 Sep 1917 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location:Leeds Rank: Private Regiment: Northumberland Fusiliers Battalion: 10th Battalion Number: 41837 Type of Casualty: Died Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Comments: Formerly 21904, West Yorks Regt. and was delighted to match him up with his CWCG entry:- Name:ATKINSON, PAUL Initials: P Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Northumberland Fusiliers Unit Text: 10th Bn. Age: 22 Date of Death: 20/09/1917 Service No: 41837 Additional information: Son of Garside and Fanny Atkinson, of 21, Park View, New Farnley, Leeds. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: IX. F. 44. Cemetery: YPRES RESERVOIR CEMETERY In 1911, 15 year old Paul was living with his parents and five sisters at 21 Playground, Farnley, Leeds - not so very far from my home. I note from his MIC that it's only for the Fusiliers' service and has no qualifying date, so presumably he only saw home service during his time with the W Yorks and didn't go abroad until 1917. It also contains a note "Pres dead". Not forgotten. Slightly OT, but I also attach the other photo in the locket: looks a bit young for Fanny, so presumably the girl he left behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 12 August , 2011 Share Posted 12 August , 2011 Am delighted with this find today: postcard complete with a double-sided photo locket - all for a tenner! The label said: "Paul Atkinson Died in War W Yorks Regt Farnley Man", while the name and 1914 appear on the back. Was slightly disappointed to find that I wasn't immediately able to locate him on CWGC and started wondering if a name had been picked out of thin air, but SDGW has:- Name: Paul Atkinson Birth Place: Leeds Death Date: 20 Sep 1917 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location:Leeds Rank: Private Regiment: Northumberland Fusiliers Battalion: 10th Battalion Number: 41837 Type of Casualty: Died Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Comments: Formerly 21904, West Yorks Regt. and was delighted to match him up with his CWCG entry:- Name:ATKINSON, PAUL Initials: P Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Northumberland Fusiliers Unit Text: 10th Bn. Age: 22 Date of Death: 20/09/1917 Service No: 41837 Additional information: Son of Garside and Fanny Atkinson, of 21, Park View, New Farnley, Leeds. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: IX. F. 44. Cemetery: YPRES RESERVOIR CEMETERY In 1911, 15 year old Paul was living with his parents and five sisters at 21 Playground, Farnley, Leeds - not so very far from my home. I note from his MIC that it's only for the Fusiliers' service and has no qualifying date, so presumably he only saw home service during his time with the W Yorks and didn't go abroad until 1917. It also contains a note "Pres dead". Not forgotten. Slightly OT, but I also attach the other photo in the locket: looks a bit young for Fanny, so presumably the girl he left behind. Interesting to see W Yorks collar badges on SD at such an early date. I also wonder if Graham Stewart might have a NF war diary for the 10th Battalion that will give an indication of how he died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 13 August , 2011 Share Posted 13 August , 2011 M G C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 13 August , 2011 Share Posted 13 August , 2011 Looks like regimental buttons on the unknown Staffs sgt. Also unusual to see bayonet! I wonder if he was regimental police? TT Orderly sergeants wore side arms as a 'mark of office', or he might have been teaching bayonet drill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verrico2009 Posted 14 August , 2011 Share Posted 14 August , 2011 Thanks for that Frogsmile: I could see that they were the three feathers. Of course I only have what was written on the back of the card when I received it and all that can be said for certain was that he transferred at some point before going abroad (I see I put 1917, rather than 1916), but I have no real reason to doubt it. Perhaps he was a TF man for that photo to have been taken in 1914? Thanks High Wood - I'll dig that thread out. In the meantime, I don't believe I've posted this shot of two fine looking lads. Possibly brothers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 14 August , 2011 Share Posted 14 August , 2011 Not sure if I have posted this Notts & Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 14 August , 2011 Share Posted 14 August , 2011 Thanks for that Frogsmile: I could see that they were the three feathers. Of course I only have what was written on the back of the card when I received it and all that can be said for certain was that he transferred at some point before going abroad (I see I put 1917, rather than 1916), but I have no real reason to doubt it. Perhaps he was a TF man for that photo to have been taken in 1914? Thanks High Wood - I'll dig that thread out. In the meantime, I don't believe I've posted this shot of two fine looking lads. Possibly brothers? He could be TF, but it would be unusual at that early stage of the war to have omitted the 'T' and number above the W YORK titles. Note what High Wood said about likely battalions who wore collar badges though. It would seem that they were indeed TF. The man with possible brother is in the Middlesex Regt (the man in civilian clothes has a lapel badge of that regiment too), is a signaller and has been wounded twice. R x x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 15 August , 2011 Share Posted 15 August , 2011 I believe a member of my family is the chap on the right. Ernest Floyd. Is there any info that can be gleaned from it apart from the location please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 15 August , 2011 Share Posted 15 August , 2011 Here he is again [sorry, it's a bit battered] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 15 August , 2011 Share Posted 15 August , 2011 Not sure of this one. Again, info welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 15 August , 2011 Share Posted 15 August , 2011 Names on rear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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