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31 minutes ago, gunnerwalker said:

His MSM citation refers to his service with the 2/6th still so he remained with the Territorials at least until 1920, but unsure if he became a regular after that. His service number suggests he enlisted around the turn of 1914/15 so might suggest his term of service ended in late 1922 or early 1923.

Interesting.  It was a rare honour to be awarded an MSM.  He must’ve been highly thought of.

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35 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said:

Interesting.  It was a rare honour to be awarded an MSM.  He must’ve been highly thought of.

Yes I think so. His overseas service wasn't until after 1916 so no date of entry recorded, but by the time he did go he was already a sergeant so suggests he had a decent head on his shoulders. 

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This is Frederick Henry Bartlett, I am having trouble with the cap badge that I am sure someone will instantly recognize.

Thanks

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1 minute ago, Raster Scanning said:

This is Frederick Henry Bartlett, I am having trouble with the cap badge that I am sure someone will instantly recognize.

Thanks

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Somerset Light Infantry. Nice photo.

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Perfect I just found him in the medal records. 17206. He served in 8th Battalion and later as 413384 LC. Thanks very much

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39 minutes ago, Raster Scanning said:

This is Frederick Henry Bartlett, I am having trouble with the cap badge that I am sure someone will instantly recognize.

Thanks

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A nice photo that to me exemplifies how important good headdress is.  SD wasn’t really a smart uniform unless tailored, but the 05 cap gave every man a smart appearance, as in this instance.  It’s easy to see why the 1915 Gor-Blimey became so despised by SNCOs despite its indisputably more utilitarian design. 

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1 hour ago, Raster Scanning said:

Perfect I just found him in the medal records. 17206. He served in 8th Battalion and later as 413384 LC. Thanks very much

good morning,

Is it possible to know when it became stuck?
Was he able to take part in the Battle of Loos on 25 September 1915?
Thank you in advance for your reply.

regards

michel

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1 hour ago, battle of loos said:

good morning,

Is it possible to know when it became stuck?
Was he able to take part in the Battle of Loos on 25 September 1915?
Thank you in advance for your reply.

regards

michel

 

1 hour ago, battle of loos said:

good morning,

Is it possible to know when it became stuck?
Was he able to take part in the Battle of Loos on 25 September 1915?
Thank you in advance for your reply.

regards

michel

 

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Just now, Raster Scanning said:

 

 

According to his MRI Card he landed in France on 4-10-1915 so it appears he was too late for that Michel. It looks like he was one of 248 men who joined from the 3rd Battalion at Borre on the 6th October.

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good evening

thank's.

michel

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"No.2 Platoon A Coy. R.W.F. Aldershot 1915" - (10th - 11th - or 19th Battalion Royal Welsh Fusiliers.) 

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"Le Plouy, France. Jan 1919. 2/5th Gloster Regt. B.E.F."

Note the officer on the right wearing collar badge on his cap.

GL.0039 - 'Le Plouy, France. Jan 1919. 2.5th Gloster Regt. B.E.F.'.jpg

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"Sincerely yours, one of the 13 boys of The Royal Army Medical Corps."

Can anyone tell me what the small badge on his left sleeve is?

RAMC.0008 - 'Sincerely yours, one of the 13 boys of The Royal Army Medical Corps'.jpg

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22 minutes ago, gunnerwalker said:

"Le Plouy, France. Jan 1919. 2/5th Gloster Regt. B.E.F."

Note the officer on the right wearing collar badge on his cap.

GL.0039 - 'Le Plouy, France. Jan 1919. 2.5th Gloster Regt. B.E.F.'.jpg

Holding the arm of the battalion Padre (chaplain) by the look of it?

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24 minutes ago, gunnerwalker said:

"Sincerely yours, one of the 13 boys of The Royal Army Medical Corps."

Can anyone tell me what the small badge on his left sleeve is?

RAMC.0008 - 'Sincerely yours, one of the 13 boys of The Royal Army Medical Corps'.jpg

Isn’t it just a flaw in the photograph?  I can’t think of any badge that would fit those dimensions and that position.

It’s a really cracking picture of a RAMC Orderly, you must’ve been pleased with it.

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10 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said:

Holding the arm of the battalion Padre (chaplain) by the look of it?

Thanks, I'd noticed the different collar tags but wasn't sure what they were.

 

8 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said:

Isn’t it just a flaw in the photograph?  I can’t think of any badge that would fit those dimensions and that position.

It’s a really cracking picture of a RAMC Orderly, you must’ve been pleased with it.

Yes it's a great photo - nice clear details on much of the equipment.

I'm not sure it is a flaw as zoomed in the light seems to shine off it and it produces a slight shadow consistent with other details in the picture. To me it looks like the stud part of a metal popper but can't think why one would be affixed to the upper sleeve.

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23 minutes ago, gunnerwalker said:

To me it looks like the stud part of a metal popper but can't think why one would be affixed to the upper sleeve.

That’s a really good thought and I see what you mean.  I think you could be right and something that would fit that scenario well is a stud or hook and eye to secure a white armlet with a Red Cross, as worn by RAMC stretcher bearers, whenever on duty in the field.

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On 01/04/2024 at 22:40, FROGSMILE said:

That’s a really good thought and I see what you mean.  I think you could be right and something that would fit that scenario well is a stud or hook and eye to secure a white armlet with a Red Cross, as worn by RAMC stretcher bearers, whenever on duty in the field.

In other photos, I see the red cross badge worn on the right sleeve was mirrored by one on the left, about where that possible stud is...

RAMC 29th FA , No 12 Hut, Middlesbrough.jpg

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4 hours ago, aodhdubh said:

In other photos, I see the red cross badge worn on the right sleeve was mirrored by one on the left, about where that possible stud is...

RAMC 29th FA , No 12 Hut, Middlesbrough.jpg

Thank you.  That fits pretty much perfectly.

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On 01/04/2024 at 22:43, gunnerwalker said:

" Cordialement, l'un des 13 garçons du Royal Army Medical Corps. "

Quelqu'un peut-il me dire ce qu'est le petit badge sur sa manche gauche ?

RAMC.0008 - 'Cordialement vôtre, l'un des 13 garçons du Royal Army Medical Corps'.jpg

Good evening
What is small bag model on this soldier?
it doesn't look like Pattern 1908!
Michel
 

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On 4/1/2024 at 11:40 PM, FROGSMILE said:

That’s a really good thought and I see what you mean.  I think you could be right and something that would fit that scenario well is a stud or hook and eye to secure a white armlet with a Red Cross, as worn by RAMC stretcher bearers, whenever on duty in the field.

good evening,

here is the armlet withe the red cross :

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michel

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1 hour ago, battle of loos said:

Good evening
What is small bag model on this soldier?
it doesn't look like Pattern 1908!
Michel
 

Hello Michel, it is a very old traditional bag for British soldier described officially as haversack general service (originally in 18th century “bread bag”).  It was for the soldier to carry his daily rations. For the infantry soldier it was replaced by the 1908 web equipment small pack, but soldiers with the older, 1903 bandolier equipment, still had the haversack.

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1 hour ago, battle of loos said:

good evening,

here is the armlet withe the red cross :

brassard(1).JPG.20f9063938708ae685a8e57d7ee71413.JPGbrassard(2).JPG.c64a45e991555be3481e4f357cb8eac2.JPG

michel

The Red Cross arm badge for the specialist Royal Army Medical Corps soldier was circular Michel, and worn only by them, and their Territorial Force (auxiliary) infantry attached equivalents.  Forum colleague, gunnerwalker, was suggesting that the stud on the soldier’s sleeve was to secure the circular badge.  The badge could then be removed when the jacket was cleaned.  I think that he is probably correct,

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9 hours ago, FROGSMILE said:

  The badge could then be removed when the jacket was cleaned.

Those wearing the Red Cross were not allowed to carry arms, so that could also be one reason why you would want to remove it. 

I have read in one of the war diaries dismay by one senior officer having found RAMC men on sentry duty carrying rifles whilst at Suez. 

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