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whitley

Hello rflory,

I am mightily impressed and slightly jealous of your library and hoped you could spare a little time to see if there is any information regarding D Battery 242 Brigade during the period between 18th September 1917 and 20th September just prior to the attack on Polygon Wood.

It was during this period that a great uncle, Gunner Walter Oldfield (840621) died after being hit by a shell burst while transporting ammunition to the battery. He died on the night of 19th/20th September. The O.C.D/242 Bde at the time was Major A.C. Stephen.

I am especially interested where the battery/Brigade was situated while in support of the attack.

Many thanks in anticipation

Richard.

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Guest Bryo

Hello Dick,

Please could you tell me what happened to the 144th Siege Battery RGA on the days leading up to 28th November 1917. A relative of mine, Sydney Arthur Wilkinson 156367 who was with the 144th was killed in action on this date.

With many thanks,

Brian.

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rflory

Richard: Before the Echoes Die Away: The Story of a Warwickshire Territorial Gunner Regiment 1892-1969 by NDG James indicates that 242 Brigade, RFA relieved 102 Brigade, RFA at Zillebecke on 14th August 1917 and within a week all of the guns of B Battery had been knocked out. The Brigade remained in action at Zillebecke until 24 October 1917. During that ten week period the Brigade had 181 men killed, wounded or missing and earned six MMs. Regards. Dick Flory

Hello rflory,

I am mightily impressed and slightly jealous of your library and hoped you could spare a little time to see if there is any information regarding D Battery 242 Brigade during the period between 18th September 1917 and 20th September just prior to the attack on Polygon Wood.

It was during this period that a great uncle, Gunner Walter Oldfield (840621) died after being hit by a shell burst while transporting ammunition to the battery. He died on the night of 19th/20th September. The O.C.D/242 Bde at the time was Major A.C. Stephen.

I am especially interested where the battery/Brigade was situated while in support of the attack.

Many thanks in anticipation

Richard.

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whitley

Dick, very many thanks for the quick reply and for the interesting information.

I am collecting and collating all information I can find regarding 242 Bde. during 3rd Ypres battles, to try and make some sense of it all. I do believe I am getting somewhere.

Once again thank you for your time and effort.

Richard.

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Hi,

I've not posted anything here before so hopefully I wont make any mistakes. I was wondering if given your interest and knowledge of the RFA you could shed any light on the attached picture.

As far as I know its taken near Winchester around September 1914 but could be later. In the picture the unit is standing in front of a door on which is written 3/_ HB RFA. Could this be the Hants Battery of the Royal Field Artillery? The people in the photo include a Walter George Hide sitting 3rd from the right in the front row. From his medal record Walter served with the Hampshire Carabiniers and was with them when they converted into infantry and joined the 15th Battalion Hamphire Regiment. In fact I have the cap badges and medals for Walter. However, the problem is that the cap badges on this photo do not match either of these later units. The closest I have seen is the First Hants RGA Volunteers. Walter was under age when he joined up at the start of the war. I'm looking for a link between the RGA or RFA and the Hampshire Carabiniers. I know that its a long shot but thanks anyway

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Simon

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rflory

Very difficult to say what the door inscription is but I am rather sure it is not Hant's Battery. My guess is that it is 3/ _____ Howitzer Battery, RFA. Regards. Dick Floyr

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chr15a
I have the following Royal Artillery and Canadian Artillery unit histories and would be happy to do lookups as time permits:

Divisional Artilleries

Narrative of the 5th Divisional Artillery, 1914-1918

History of the 20th Divisional Artillery, 1914-1919

29th Divisional Artillery War Record and Honours Book 1915-1918

Brief History of 31st Divisional Artillery (officers only listed)

History of the 33rd Divisional Artillery in the War, 1914-1918

A Short History of the 39th (Deptford) Divisional Artillery 1915-1918

War Services of the 62nd West Riding Divisional Artillery

Royal Field Artillery Brigades

The War History of the 1st Northumbrian Brigade, RFA TF

War Diary of the 1st West Lancashire Brigade, RFA

A Short History of the 1st West Lancashire Artillery Brigade

Kamp News, 1915-1918 (3rd West Lancashire Brigade, RFA TF

Hertfordshire Yeomanry and Artillery Honours and Awards (4 E Anglican Bde, RFA TF)

Lewisham Gunners (4th Lond Howitzer Bde, RFA)

London Gunners Come to Town (5, 6, 7, and 8 London Brigades, RFA TF)

Short Record of War Services of the 7th London Brigade, RFA TF

25th Brigade Ammunition Column War Diary (1914)

Roll of Honour and Casualties and List of Officers who have served with 75th Brigade, RFA, 24

August to 11 November 1918.

Push and Return Push (82 Brigade, RFA

The Raising of the 157th Brigade (City of Aberdeen), RFA TF

The History of the Locally Raised 160th Wearside Brigade, Royal Field Artillery

Exploits and Escapades, Brief History of happenings of the 3rd Staffs Battery, RFA

Before the Echoes Die Away (242 Bde, RFA, 5th Warsickshire (How) Battery)

The Story of the Monmouthshire Volunteer Artillery (266 Bde, RFA TF)

Diex Aix: God Help Us (9 Divisional Ammunition Column, RFA)

Royal Field Artillery Batteries

2nd City of Edinburgh Battery, RFA, 1914-1918

Record of the 3rd Devonshire Battery (Tavistock), 4th Wessex Bde, RFA TF, The Great War,

1914-1919

Third Durham Volunteer Artillery (4th Durham Battery, RFA TF)

The Battery Book (1/6 Hants Battery, RFA TF)

The History of Strange's Battery, Royal Artillery (8th Battery, RFA)

27th Battery, RFA, 1914-1919

The History of A Battery, 84th Brigade, RFA 1914-1919

Field Guns in France (D/151; A/150 Batteries, RFA)

The Long March, Story of "The Devils Own", B/210 Burnley Battery, RFA 1914-1919

Over There, Commemorative History of the Old Leak Battery, 1908-1919 (C/231, RFA)

An Australian in the RFA (D/242, RFA

A Record of D245 Battery, 1914-1919

History of the Yarmouth Battery, 1569-1926 (A/270, A/264, A/272 Batteries, RFA)Romford to

Beirut via France, Egypt and Jericho (B/271, RFA)

Royal Horse Artillery Brigades and Batteries

History of the 1/1st Hants Royal Horse Artillery during the Great War, 1914-1919

Shropshire Royal Horse Artillery, 1912-1918

The War Diary of "E" Battery, Royal Horse Artillery, 5th Aug. 1914-31st Oct. 1919

The Story of "F" Troop, Royal Horse Artillery (F Bty, RHA)

Some Pages from the History of "Q" Battery, RHA in the Great War

Royal Garrison Artillery Brigades

The 25th Army Brigade, RGA on the Western Front in 1918

61, How Some Wheels Went Round (61 Heavy Artillery Group, RGA)

History of the 77th Bde, RGA, France 1916-19

Nine Days: Adventures of a Heavy Artillery Brigade of the Third Army during the German

Offensive of March 21-29, 1918 (90 Brigade, RGA)

Heavy Batteries, RGA

9 Heavy Battery, RGA, 1914-1919

War Diary and Roll of Honour, 14th Heavy Battery, RGA in France, Belgium, Germany

With the Heavies in Flanders (24 Heavy Battery, RGA)

Dads Diary, A Gunners Experience in War, 1914-1918 (121 Heavy Battery, RGA)

126 Heavy Battery, RGA, 1915-1919

The Hampstead Heavies (138 Heavy Battery, RGA)

Diary of 144th (York) Heavy Battery, RGA, 1915-1919

Siege Batteries, RGA

The Eleventh Siege Battery, RGA, 1914-1918

Notes of History of 19th Siege Battery, RGA

20th Siege Battery, RGA, BEF, France and Flanders, 20th June 1915-11th November 1918

27th Siege Battery, RGA, BEF, France and Flanders, 5 Sept 1915 to 15 Apr 1919.

Memoirs of 42 Siege Battery, RGA, 1914-1918

52 Siege Battery, RGA, August 1915-August 1919

A Short History of the 72nd (South African) Siege Battery

The History of 76 Siege Battery, RGA

History of 81 Siege Battery, RGA

History of the 91st (Siege) Battery, RGA, December 1915 to 11 November 1918

Siege Battery 94 During the World War, 1914-1918

Occasional Gunfire, Private War Diary of a Siege Gunner (118 Siege Battery, RGA)

126th Heavy Battery, RGA 1915-1919

History of the 135th Siege Battery, RGA

144th Siege Battery, R. G. A.

A History of 154 Siege Battery, RGA, France 1916-19

Nominal Roll of 170th Siege Battery, RGA

178 Siege Battery, R. G. A., B. E. F. France

"Two Eleven," Being the History of 211 Siege Battery, R. G. A. on the Western Front

220th Siege Battery, R. G. A.

"228", The History of a Siege Battery during the Great War

History of 250 Siege Battery, R.G.A.

With a Siege Battery in France, 303 Siege Battery, RGA

London Gunners (309 (Hon Arty Co) Siege Battery, RGA)

The Honourable Artillery Company in the Great War

332 Siege Battery, R.G.A.

The Record of 355 Siege Battery

A Short Record of the 359th Siege Battery RGA

Canadian Field Artillery

Gun-Fire, An Historical Narrative of the 4th Brigade, CFA

NREF, 16th Brigade, C.F.A.

The Battery, The History of 10th (St. Catherines) Field Battery, RCA (10 Bty, CFA)

The Diary of the 13th Battery, Canadian Field Artillery 1914-1919

Battery Action! The Story of the 43rd Battery, CFA

The History of the Fifty-Fifth Battery, CFA

The 60th C. F. A. Battery Book, 1916-1919

The Story of the Sixty-Sixth C. F. A. (66 Bty, CFA)

Second Canadian Divisional Ammunition Column and Its Part in the Great World War

Canadian Siege Artillery

The Seventh (7 Siege Battery, CGA)

War Diary, 10th Canadian Siege Battery, 1917-1919

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kildaremark

Hi Dick,

I see you have "Second Canadian Divisional Ammunition Column and Its Part in the Great World War". Is that the same ammunition column as the 6th Howitzer Brigade's ammunition column which was part of the 2nd Division?

I am looking for a B.S.C. Thompson who I believe was a lieutenant.

Edit: He is listed in the Times as a Battery Sgt Major given rank of Temp Lieut from Oct 1916. Canadian War Diaries on line have him in 6th Field Artillery Brigade in October 1916 and transferred to 7th Field Artillery Brigade D 21st Howitzer Battery. Goes on leave in January 1917 and I loser track of him then.

Thanks

Mark

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Corporal Chris
I have the following Royal Artillery and Canadian Artillery unit histories and would be happy to do lookups as time permits:

Divisional Artilleries

Narrative of the 5th Divisional Artillery, 1914-1918

History of the 20th Divisional Artillery, 1914-1919

29th Divisional Artillery War Record and Honours Book 1915-1918

Brief History of 31st Divisional Artillery (officers only listed)

History of the 33rd Divisional Artillery in the War, 1914-1918

A Short History of the 39th (Deptford) Divisional Artillery 1915-1918

War Services of the 62nd West Riding Divisional Artillery

Royal Field Artillery Brigades

The War History of the 1st Northumbrian Brigade, RFA TF

War Diary of the 1st West Lancashire Brigade, RFA

A Short History of the 1st West Lancashire Artillery Brigade

Kamp News, 1915-1918 (3rd West Lancashire Brigade, RFA TF

Hertfordshire Yeomanry and Artillery Honours and Awards (4 E Anglican Bde, RFA TF)

Lewisham Gunners (4th Lond Howitzer Bde, RFA)

London Gunners Come to Town (5, 6, 7, and 8 London Brigades, RFA TF)

Short Record of War Services of the 7th London Brigade, RFA TF

25th Brigade Ammunition Column War Diary (1914)

Roll of Honour and Casualties and List of Officers who have served with 75th Brigade, RFA, 24

August to 11 November 1918.

Push and Return Push (82 Brigade, RFA

The Raising of the 157th Brigade (City of Aberdeen), RFA TF

The History of the Locally Raised 160th Wearside Brigade, Royal Field Artillery

Exploits and Escapades, Brief History of happenings of the 3rd Staffs Battery, RFA

Before the Echoes Die Away (242 Bde, RFA, 5th Warsickshire (How) Battery)

The Story of the Monmouthshire Volunteer Artillery (266 Bde, RFA TF)

Diex Aix: God Help Us (9 Divisional Ammunition Column, RFA)

Royal Field Artillery Batteries

2nd City of Edinburgh Battery, RFA, 1914-1918

Record of the 3rd Devonshire Battery (Tavistock), 4th Wessex Bde, RFA TF, The Great War,

1914-1919

Third Durham Volunteer Artillery (4th Durham Battery, RFA TF)

The Battery Book (1/6 Hants Battery, RFA TF)

The History of Strange's Battery, Royal Artillery (8th Battery, RFA)

27th Battery, RFA, 1914-1919

The History of A Battery, 84th Brigade, RFA 1914-1919

Field Guns in France (D/151; A/150 Batteries, RFA)

The Long March, Story of "The Devils Own", B/210 Burnley Battery, RFA 1914-1919

Over There, Commemorative History of the Old Leak Battery, 1908-1919 (C/231, RFA)

An Australian in the RFA (D/242, RFA

A Record of D245 Battery, 1914-1919

History of the Yarmouth Battery, 1569-1926 (A/270, A/264, A/272 Batteries, RFA)Romford to

Beirut via France, Egypt and Jericho (B/271, RFA)

Royal Horse Artillery Brigades and Batteries

History of the 1/1st Hants Royal Horse Artillery during the Great War, 1914-1919

Shropshire Royal Horse Artillery, 1912-1918

The War Diary of "E" Battery, Royal Horse Artillery, 5th Aug. 1914-31st Oct. 1919

The Story of "F" Troop, Royal Horse Artillery (F Bty, RHA)

Some Pages from the History of "Q" Battery, RHA in the Great War

Royal Garrison Artillery Brigades

The 25th Army Brigade, RGA on the Western Front in 1918

61, How Some Wheels Went Round (61 Heavy Artillery Group, RGA)

History of the 77th Bde, RGA, France 1916-19

Nine Days: Adventures of a Heavy Artillery Brigade of the Third Army during the German

Offensive of March 21-29, 1918 (90 Brigade, RGA)

Heavy Batteries, RGA

9 Heavy Battery, RGA, 1914-1919

War Diary and Roll of Honour, 14th Heavy Battery, RGA in France, Belgium, Germany

With the Heavies in Flanders (24 Heavy Battery, RGA)

Dads Diary, A Gunners Experience in War, 1914-1918 (121 Heavy Battery, RGA)

126 Heavy Battery, RGA, 1915-1919

The Hampstead Heavies (138 Heavy Battery, RGA)

Diary of 144th (York) Heavy Battery, RGA, 1915-1919

Siege Batteries, RGA

The Eleventh Siege Battery, RGA, 1914-1918

Notes of History of 19th Siege Battery, RGA

20th Siege Battery, RGA, BEF, France and Flanders, 20th June 1915-11th November 1918

27th Siege Battery, RGA, BEF, France and Flanders, 5 Sept 1915 to 15 Apr 1919.

Memoirs of 42 Siege Battery, RGA, 1914-1918

52 Siege Battery, RGA, August 1915-August 1919

A Short History of the 72nd (South African) Siege Battery

The History of 76 Siege Battery, RGA

History of 81 Siege Battery, RGA

History of the 91st (Siege) Battery, RGA, December 1915 to 11 November 1918

Siege Battery 94 During the World War, 1914-1918

Occasional Gunfire, Private War Diary of a Siege Gunner (118 Siege Battery, RGA)

126th Heavy Battery, RGA 1915-1919

History of the 135th Siege Battery, RGA

144th Siege Battery, R. G. A.

A History of 154 Siege Battery, RGA, France 1916-19

Nominal Roll of 170th Siege Battery, RGA

178 Siege Battery, R. G. A., B. E. F. France

"Two Eleven," Being the History of 211 Siege Battery, R. G. A. on the Western Front

220th Siege Battery, R. G. A.

"228", The History of a Siege Battery during the Great War

History of 250 Siege Battery, R.G.A.

With a Siege Battery in France, 303 Siege Battery, RGA

London Gunners (309 (Hon Arty Co) Siege Battery, RGA)

The Honourable Artillery Company in the Great War

332 Siege Battery, R.G.A.

The Record of 355 Siege Battery

A Short Record of the 359th Siege Battery RGA

Canadian Field Artillery

Gun-Fire, An Historical Narrative of the 4th Brigade, CFA

NREF, 16th Brigade, C.F.A.

The Battery, The History of 10th (St. Catherines) Field Battery, RCA (10 Bty, CFA)

The Diary of the 13th Battery, Canadian Field Artillery 1914-1919

Battery Action! The Story of the 43rd Battery, CFA

The History of the Fifty-Fifth Battery, CFA

The 60th C. F. A. Battery Book, 1916-1919

The Story of the Sixty-Sixth C. F. A. (66 Bty, CFA)

Second Canadian Divisional Ammunition Column and Its Part in the Great World War

Canadian Siege Artillery

The Seventh (7 Siege Battery, CGA)

War Diary, 10th Canadian Siege Battery, 1917-1919

Would you still have a copy of "With the Heavies in Flanders" - 24th.Heavy Battery, RGA? My local library is trying to get hold of a copy but, in the meantime, if you have anything on where they were in May 1917 I should be interested. 22043 Gunner Albert BALDWIN DOW on 11/5/17.

Thanks,

Chris.

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rflory

Chris: The following is extracted from With the Heavies in Flanders, page 112 and 113:

"On the morning of the 11th [May 1917] "H32" [the designation for a German artillery battery] was busy ranging on the railway in front of our position. Several shells fell near, one damaging No. 3 gun. In the afternoon, about 1.30 o'clock, the same battery again opened fire at the railways on the north and north-east side of the position. Two shells of this series fell in the chateau grounds, one of them bursting three yards from the canteen and wounding Corporal H. Colenutt, Gunners J. Glennie, and J. Hilditch. Gunner A. Baldwin was seriously wounded by this shell and died before reaching the field ambulance. He was buried at Philosophe Cemetery near to Gunner Clutterbuck."

Regards, Dick Flory

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Mark: Reference Lt Bertie Stuart Campbell Thompson, CFA:

1. The only reference to him in Second Canadian Divisional Ammunition Column and Its Part in the Great World War is: "transferred to 7th Brigade, CFA on 20 October 1916."

2. Canadian Artillery Officers Who Served Overseas indicates that he served in England with the following units: 6th Bde, CFA, 8 How Bde, CFA, Reserve Bde, CFA; and CAR Depot; and in France and Flanders with the following units: 6th Bde, CFA; 2 DAC and 7 Bde. It shows that he had no decorations and no wounds.

3. 7th Brigade, CFA was absorbed in the reorganization of March 1917 and as far as I can tell did not reappear.

4. As he appears to have served in France and Flanders with 7th Brigade, CFA after he served with 6th Brigade, CFA and 2nd DAC it would appear that he went on leave in January 1917 and never returned to that theater.

5. There do not appear to be papers available for him in the Canadian Archives.

6. He does not appear in the list of Canadian officers in the November 1918 Army List, but he does appear in the January 1919 Canadian Militia List.

7. I wonder if he maybe went on leave in England in January 1917 and got sick or injured and invalided out?

Sorry I could not do better. Regards, Dick Flory

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Chris: The following is extracted from With the Heavies in Flanders, page 112 and 113:

"On the morning of the 11th [May 1917] "H32" [the designation for a German artillery battery] was busy ranging on the railway in front of our position. Several shells fell near, one damaging No. 3 gun. In the afternoon, about 1.30 o'clock, the same battery again opened fire at the railways on the north and north-east side of the position. Two shells of this series fell in the chateau grounds, one of them bursting three yards from the canteen and wounding Corporal H. Colenutt, Gunners J. Glennie, and J. Hilditch. Gunner A. Baldwin was seriously wounded by this shell and died before reaching the field ambulance. He was buried at Philosophe Cemetery near to Gunner Clutterbuck."

Regards, Dick Flory

Dick,

This is great. Thank you very much.

Regards,

Chris.

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ALANJONES

Dick

Re: With the Heavies in Flanders (24 Heavy Battery, RGA)

24 HB was brigaded with 122nd HB during 1916 at Ypres and then when they moved to the Somme in early April 1916 and I think until late July 1916.

I would be interested to know whether their history says

a. Anything about 122nd HB

b. Their location on the Somme

and also generally how much detail the history goes into daily life - or is it rather a record of moves, personnell changes etc??

Many thanks

Alan

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ALANJONES

PS By 'their' location - I mean 24 HB's!

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kildaremark

Thanks Dick

Sounds like a good explanation on BSC Thomson as to why he vanishes.

He ends up in Ireland in the early 1920s as an Army Instructional Officer and as a Battery Commander in the Artillery Corps in the late 1920s. Here he is in 1931:-

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CABRIT

Hi

You have a great deal of reference material listed so I hope you can help me. My grandad joined the RHA Wentworth battery in 1914. He went to France & was at the Somme. I have been researching to try to find out where they served and in what batteries/brigades. Attached is the info I have to date. Its not much. I have his MIC but there is no surviving service record. I have been to the Archives but they could not help. The artillery museum cant help either! You have a reference listed for the West Riding Artillery so I hope you can shed some light when you have some time.

Yours sincerely,

Ian Hoyland

2_West_Riding_RHA.doc

Arthurs_MIC.pdf

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emired

Hi there!

What an amazing collection!

I'm after some info on my great great uncle, Arthur Ernest Coulson, RFA, 27th, 108th Brigade, D Battery.

I'm particularly after some info as to what they were doing when he died, in mid-August 1918 in Albert.

Unfortunately I have nowhere near the knowledge or available information required and would appreciate any help you might be able to provide.

Many thanks,

Chris

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peterinkent

Hello Dick

You might remember you kindly gave me a few pointers reference Newlyn Mason Elliott of the Hants RHA and the HAC.

I notice you have a history of 1/1 Hants RFA am I right that this is the same battery that served with the 1/5 Lowland Bde RHA and is this the book published by the local Southampton newspaper?

And you guessed it does the book mention Newlyn.

Peter

I know I sent you a picture of Newlyn at the end of his career I npow have a few form the period when he was with the Hants RHA do you want copies?

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rflory

Peter: Unfortunately there is no mention of Newlyn Mason Elliott, in fact, very few other ranks are mentioned. I would love to have copies of the photos. Regards, Dick Flory

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peterinkent

Thanks Dick

For interest here is a group photo of part of the the Hants RHA Newlyn is the officer and also here are the officers

Peter

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bartensabien

Good evening,

I searching all information about the 9th, 29th, 35th and 36th Division during the battle of Courtrai, form 13 to 20 October 1918.

3 members of the A battery of the 173th Royal Field Artillery (36 DIV) died in my village Gulleghem on 15 Oct 1918 :

- Hampton FJ _ 22136

- Godfrey H B - L/26052

- Plumstead E S _ 875273

Regards,

Bart

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battiscombe

Dick

you may be able to help with this as you seem to have a remarkable RFA database and library:

do you any information on a Lt (later Major) Peter Wright kia 1918 with B/186 Bde - his MIC says he went to France 19/1/1915 ........(commissioned from Inns of Court OTC)

... I believe he may be the same Lt P Wright who was posted to 36th BAC 26/1/1915; then 15/36th Bde .. and was wounded in march 1915. I was wondering if you have any information on Peter Wright - when commisioned, for example, and later postings 1915-1918. .. which might help confirm these are one and the same ..

any assistance welcome

David

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rflory

Peterinkent wrote:

For interest here is a group photo of part of the the Hants RHA Newlyn is the officer and also here are the officers.

Peter: Are the other officers in the "officer photo" identified by name? Regards, Dick Flory

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John G

Hello,

When you have the time and inclination could you please check for

Royal Field Artillery"A" Bty. 84th Brigade for November 12 1917. Gunner Frank Ault died that day.

Anything to add to the basics that I have would be very much appreciated

Thanks

JPG

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