Supersnapz Posted 6 October , 2010 Share Posted 6 October , 2010 Hi all, Looking for any information on the 12th Bn Rifle Brigade. In particular my dads uncle (Mark Glanville Chambers, service no 4593) was serving as a rifleman and died on the 04-09-1916. Any ideas of where and what his regiment was upto on this date. Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connaughtranger Posted 6 October , 2010 Share Posted 6 October , 2010 Hi From Rifle Brigade history: The Battalion relieved the RMF just east of Guillemont, north of the Guillemont-Combles road, on 3rd September. Once in line the Battalion extended its right 100 yards south of that road. The area was a site of stinking decomposition without any recognisable trenches and the night was spent trying to dig a defensive position. Next morning a front line had been dug and wired but the Battalion suffered from heavy shelling. 12th Battalion was ordered to send out patrols, 10 men and a Lewis gun, to help establish a line along Leuze Wood, 500-600 yards in front of the Battalion line. 3 patrols were to be provided under Lt R E V Sanders. Before they moved out the front had changed leaving the Battalion's flank exposed, and the enemy were able to sustain accurate sniping fire on them. Little movement was possible. At 6.30 pm 2 patrols started out but lost 8 men within 50 yards, the remainder lying in shell holes until after dark, when they moved up in touch with the SLI. Regards Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ander11 Posted 6 October , 2010 Share Posted 6 October , 2010 Hi there and Welcome to Greaty War Forum, Here is his details from SDGW & CWGC http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1543004 Regiment/Corps -- Rifle Brigade (The Princes Consort's Own) Battalion/Etc -- 12th Battalion Surname -- Chambers Rank -- Rifleman Army Number -- 4593 Names -- Mark Glanville Born -- Exeter Enlisted -- London. Residence -- Forest Hill, Surrey Died Date -- 04/09/1916 Died How -- Killed in Action Theatre of War -- France & Flanders Best reguards Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 13 October , 2010 Share Posted 13 October , 2010 Part of the casualty list containing his name. There is a detailed report of the operations of the 3rd to the 6th in both the Brigade and battalion war diary if you require a copy. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Milner Posted 13 October , 2010 Share Posted 13 October , 2010 Andy Do you a copy of the casualty list for men wounded in action, I am looking for 10879 Rifleman Horace Womble. Regards John Milner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 13 October , 2010 Share Posted 13 October , 2010 John, A rough dateline would be good as these casualty lists go on for many many pages. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 13 October , 2010 Share Posted 13 October , 2010 Disregard last, found him 17/8/17 wounded in action. Last name on this page. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John Milner Posted 14 October , 2010 Share Posted 14 October , 2010 Thanks Andy. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersnapz Posted 14 October , 2010 Author Share Posted 14 October , 2010 Part of the casualty list containing his name. There is a detailed report of the operations of the 3rd to the 6th in both the Brigade and battalion war diary if you require a copy. Andy Hi Andy, Please could I see a copy of the war diary. Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersnapz Posted 14 October , 2010 Author Share Posted 14 October , 2010 Hi there and Welcome to Greaty War Forum, Here is his details from SDGW & CWGC http://www.cwgc.org/...asualty=1543004 Regiment/Corps -- Rifle Brigade (The Princes Consort's Own) Battalion/Etc -- 12th Battalion Surname -- Chambers Rank -- Rifleman Army Number -- 4593 Names -- Mark Glanville Born -- Exeter Enlisted -- London. Residence -- Forest Hill, Surrey Died Date -- 04/09/1916 Died How -- Killed in Action Theatre of War -- France & Flanders Best reguards Ian Thanks for that Ian, I have Mark's medal card and something I dont understand. Even though it said 12th battalion on the cwgc web site, his medal card says 2nd battalion. Im confused . Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 15 October , 2010 Share Posted 15 October , 2010 He was 2nd Rifle Brigade at one time, going overseas with that battalion on 7/11/14 and then served with the 12th battalion. This is confusing to start with, the reason for the change could be that he had been wounded whilst with the 2nd RB, when he returned to fitness and went overseas again there was an immediate need for men in the 12th RB. So, whilst at an Infantry Base Depot he might have been sent to the 12th battalion instead of back to his original battalion, this a very common occurence. Find attached his 1914 star roll from the 2nd Rifle Brigade and then his British War / Victory medal roll which indeed shows 2nd & 12th RB, clear as mud as they say, but I hope this clears it up for you. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 15 October , 2010 Share Posted 15 October , 2010 BWM roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersnapz Posted 15 October , 2010 Author Share Posted 15 October , 2010 BWM roll Thank you very much, very interesting. Where do you find this info? Thanks alot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanlw Posted 25 April , 2015 Share Posted 25 April , 2015 I too am looking for information on a soldier of the 12 Bn Rifle Brigade, Reginald William Essex, # 13601. Have found his service records, medal rolls, medal index. He died on 22 Feb 1916 somewhere in Belgium and is commemorated at Ypres (Menin). Not been able find where his battalion was and in which battle, if any, he died. Anyone have any idea? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 26 April , 2015 Share Posted 26 April , 2015 Alan, This was not so much a battle but defending against a German attack on the Canal Bank near Boesinghe, will place a little more here for you in a bit. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanlw Posted 26 April , 2015 Share Posted 26 April , 2015 That's great info, thank you Andy. I am curious as to the reference to the Winchester Record Office - was this created list after the war, do you know? Winchester is where he was first posted though, according to his service records. I searched the 'net for more info on Boesinghe and came across an old GW Forum to which you contributed greatly back in 2006, including some of the 12 RB war diary for 12-14 Feb. Would you still have the War Diary from the rest of Feb 1916 with casualty list, by any chance? Thanks again. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 26 April , 2015 Share Posted 26 April , 2015 Hi Alan, Certainly, the Rifle Brigade is something of a passion of mine, although mainly the 14th Division battalions, hence I do have all the RB diaries. Yes, I knew that I had covered this area before as a good few battalions of the RB at one time or another, from the 1st battalions attack on International Trench, to the 14th Divisions time there and also the 20th Division, spent time in that particular area. No, the lists were maintained during the war, you will come cross many references where they correct the lists as the war proceeds. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanlw Posted 27 April , 2015 Share Posted 27 April , 2015 I noticed when looking for Boesinghe there are several cemeteries in the area (e.g. Artillery Wood, Essex Farm) so was wondering how come Reginal Essex's name ended up on the Menin Gate. Did that just depend when he died, do you think? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 27 April , 2015 Share Posted 27 April , 2015 Alan, Reginald's name is on the Menin Gate as he has no known grave. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanlw Posted 28 April , 2015 Share Posted 28 April , 2015 Hi Alan, Certainly, the Rifle Brigade is something of a passion of mine, although mainly the 14th Division battalions, hence I do have all the RB diaries. Yes, I knew that I had covered this area before as a good few battalions of the RB at one time or another, from the 1st battalions attack on International Trench, to the 14th Divisions time there and also the 20th Division, spent time in that particular area. No, the lists were maintained during the war, you will come cross many references where they correct the lists as the war proceeds. Andy Andy, Any chance you could get me a copy of the War Diary from 22 Feb 1916? Thanks. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 30 April , 2015 Share Posted 30 April , 2015 Hi Alan, Send me a message with your e-mail address and I will send it over to you. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallboy Posted 11 November , 2015 Share Posted 11 November , 2015 This man was my great uncle and is on your list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 2 July , 2016 Share Posted 2 July , 2016 Hi All I'm trying to find some (any) information about my great uncle who died 17th August 1917 Name Charles Sears Service Number S/16097 Rank rifleman Regiment Rifle Brigade (The Prince Consorts Own) Battalion 12th Cause of death KIA Right now all I have is his medals and football medals from before the war. Thanks in advance for any info that can be given. Cheers Dave Sears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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