Grovetown Posted 29 April , 2021 Share Posted 29 April , 2021 13 hours ago, 4thGordons said: Just to note the chap seated on the left of the group (as they sit) is holding a smashed German Gew 98 -and appears to have a German helmet at his feet - perhaps signifying that this image was taken in the aftermath of a successful advance? Is the round object on the other side identifiable? I thought it might be some architectural feature but the more I look at the more I wonder if it isn't some sort of trench mortar shell or something? It is a great picture! Chris Thanks. I've had a good squint at it through a lens, and it just looks like two cannonballs (one admittedly massive) perched on each other. Cheers, GT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin kenf48 Posted 29 April , 2021 Admin Share Posted 29 April , 2021 48 minutes ago, Grovetown said: I've had a good squint at it through a lens, and it just looks like two cannonballs (one admittedly massive) perched on each other. These two pictures seem to be causing more 'bothering' than usual but then that's part of the fun and more entertaining than a crossword! Like Chris I wondered if it could be a 'Toffee Apple' mortar shell, the big one is the right shape,but then the little one on top makes that unlikely. Have we identified the cap badges? A raiding party perhaps? Anyway they're both great pictures so thank you both for posting them and giving us something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin kenf48 Posted 29 April , 2021 Admin Share Posted 29 April , 2021 5 hours ago, GWF1967 said: M.G.C. group. Unit patches on display appear to be a dark square with two rectangular bars beneath it. By no means an expert but hazard a guess at 46th (North Midland) Division, though I daresay GT's book will be more accurate. Another great photo I liked the way the older guy standing on the right had his arms round the younger man, very paternal I thought, until I saw it enabled the joker behind tipping his cap back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovetown Posted 29 April , 2021 Share Posted 29 April , 2021 42 minutes ago, kenf48 said: These two pictures seem to be causing more 'bothering' than usual but then that's part of the fun and more entertaining than a crossword! Like Chris I wondered if it could be a 'Toffee Apple' mortar shell, the big one is the right shape,but then the little one on top makes that unlikely. Have we identified the cap badges? A raiding party perhaps? Anyway they're both great pictures so thank you both for posting them and giving us something to think about. They're RA, so not raiders. The big ball is way too big for a toffee apple, which is more football size. As for our MGC bloke - it's latterly occurred to me that he's wearing a 1914 pattern belt, and I'm pretty sure the RND wasn't issued with same. Hey ho. Cheers, GT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 29 April , 2021 Share Posted 29 April , 2021 On 29/04/2021 at 23:38, Grovetown said: They're RA, so not raiders. The big ball is way too big for a toffee apple, which is more football size. As for our MGC bloke - it's latterly occurred to me that he's wearing a 1914 pattern belt, and I'm pretty sure the RND wasn't issued with same. Hey ho. Cheers, GT. Less common to see 1914 belts I agree, but some units had them, including the HAWKE and ANSON Battalions. Perhaps only worn at Home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 29 April , 2021 Share Posted 29 April , 2021 Gladys + George. - Mr + Mrs G.W. Goddard. 38 Burnell Road, Owlerton, Sheffield. Oct.1916" Pte. George William Goddard. 242892. 8th Northumberland Fusiliers. . Later 80349. 2/6th Durham Light Infantry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 30 April , 2021 Share Posted 30 April , 2021 Gloucestershire Royal Garrison Artillery Volunteers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 30 April , 2021 Share Posted 30 April , 2021 1/3 Wessex (26th Field Ambulance) Royal Army Medical Corps T.F. "Bustards Camp, Salisbury Plain". The group includes Pte. 1897. Alfred Reed. Later A/Sgt. 461029. Attached IV Corps H.Q. Meritorious Service Medal. - L.G. 17th June 1918. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 30 April , 2021 Share Posted 30 April , 2021 (edited) Hallo Alan24 and Frogsmile, thank you both very much for helping me with the identification of the unit. Much appreciated! GreyC @ GWF 1967 et al. Could you tell me what badge the soldier on the far right with the box of biscuits under his arm has above the red-cross badge? Thanks! GreyC Edited 30 April , 2021 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 1 May , 2021 Share Posted 1 May , 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, GreyC said: @ GWF 1967 et al. Could you tell me what badge the soldier on the far right with the box of biscuits under his arm has above the red-cross badge? Thanks! GreyC Hi, Crossed Trumpets. Edited 1 May , 2021 by GWF1967 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 1 May , 2021 Share Posted 1 May , 2021 " Photo "Rapide,, A.P. Rue Au Beurre, 35. *Bruxelles* ". - February 1919. Gunner. James Mason. 56235. (Rear) Driver. Seth Hayes. 56046 (Left) Died. 26/6/1921 Corporal Shoeing Smith . William Dell. 56119. (Right). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 1 May , 2021 Share Posted 1 May , 2021 1 hour ago, GWF1967 said: Crossed Trumpets. And they signify...? Signaller? Musician? GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 1 May , 2021 Share Posted 1 May , 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, GreyC said: And they signify...? Signaller? Musician? GreyC Trumpeter. Cavalry, Artillery, Engineers and Army Service Corps (transport and supply) all had trumpeters. Each trumpeter carried also a bugle for use when mounted (easier to sound on a horse and calls carried further), but the badge of crossed trumpets marked him out. Edited 1 May , 2021 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 1 May , 2021 Share Posted 1 May , 2021 Thanks a lot, Frogsmile! GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardenerbill Posted 1 May , 2021 Share Posted 1 May , 2021 Is that a whistle attached to the breast pocket of the man on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 1 May , 2021 Share Posted 1 May , 2021 On 02/05/2021 at 03:54, Gardenerbill said: Is that a whistle attached to the breast pocket of the man on the right. Yes. Looks like an “Acme Thunderer” type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardenerbill Posted 1 May , 2021 Share Posted 1 May , 2021 He also has a medal ribbon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 1 May , 2021 Share Posted 1 May , 2021 On 02/05/2021 at 04:24, Gardenerbill said: He also has a medal ribbon. Yes, it looks like a 1914 Star to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 1 May , 2021 Share Posted 1 May , 2021 57 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: Yes. Looks like an “Acme Thunderer” type. 31 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: Yes, it looks like a 1914 Star to me. Correct on both counts; overseas 14/10/14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 1 May , 2021 Share Posted 1 May , 2021 17 hours ago, GreyC said: And they signify...? Signaller? Musician? GreyC Apologies for only giving half of an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 1 May , 2021 Share Posted 1 May , 2021 1. "R.W.F and A.S.C." Photo by Helsby, Denbigh. 2. To " E.G Owen. Aberdovey Hall, Aberdovey. Best Love From Jack" . I can't decipher the photographers stamp. Edit. Jack also served in Palestine, and appears in a previous post by @Simon J Emmerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 1 May , 2021 Share Posted 1 May , 2021 (edited) Typical Territorials. Sergeant incorrectly dressed with walking stick, and drummers wearing undress arm badges with full dress tunics. One wearing bugle badge and other a drum. Bugles quite common with TF units formerly Rifle Volunteer Corps, but badge should be one or the other, not both. Edited 1 May , 2021 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 1 May , 2021 Share Posted 1 May , 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: Typical Territorials. Sergeant incorrectly dressed with walking stick, and drummers wearing undress arm badges with full dress tunics. One wearing bugle badge and other a drum. Bugles quite common with TF units formerly Rifle Volunteer Corps, but badge should be one or the other, not both. . Edited 1 May , 2021 by GWF1967 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 1 May , 2021 Share Posted 1 May , 2021 1 hour ago, GWF1967 said: Apologies for only giving half of an answer. Thank you. Anybody more familiar with the uniforms of the British Army than I would have known... GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 1 May , 2021 Share Posted 1 May , 2021 12 hours ago, GreyC said: Thanks a lot, Frogsmile! GreyC They were communicators, but could also be used as musicians. Mainly they were to relay orders (advance, withdraw, etc.), but they also indicated by sounds the routine of the day. Very similar to most armies of that period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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